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A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010
I was watching a streamer play this game a bit and the mission where you retrieve the water purifiers had a side rescue the hostage objective. The hostage loving T-posed for most of the game and glided across the floor to the point it looked like escorting a civilian lol.

Also, the narrator or whoever is supposed to be telling you objectives is so loving annoying. He does these stupid barks every 5 seconds that just loving repeat the same thing over and over again.

L4D had a really interesting thing with pseudo emergent dialogue between the 4 characters that told the player where to go in a pretty naturalistic way, not to mention that the L4D crew has 300 times the charm of these clowns. Also, the AI of human enemies is loving brain dead and the animation in the game overall seems the lowest effort possible. seriously I swear half the zombie animations are C+P from dying light.

60 bux lul

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TSBX
Apr 24, 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBV-pOxgjdQ

Game is a lot of fun with a good group.

Elendil004
Mar 22, 2003

The prognosis
is not good.


TSBX posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBV-pOxgjdQ

Game is a lot of fun with a good group.

Rare footage of me getting someone.

TSBX
Apr 24, 2010
https://giant.gfycat.com/ImportantFortunateAnnelida.webm

We showed that guy.

TSBX fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Nov 29, 2018

Elendil004
Mar 22, 2003

The prognosis
is not good.


For the love of god someone join me on my slog to get the last piece of lore from the alt Open Season route which is apparently a myth.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
None of the gyfcat links are working, TSBX

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost
For anyone still in a snit about the price point, there's going to be a "starter edition" that retails for $30 and does not include the Season 2 stuff. Season 2 started releasing yesterday and goes through June 2019. As far as the news release says, first DLC is $6 or so? No idea, might be 6 pounds and more USD.

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/11/30/overkills-the-walking-dead-launches-cheaper-starter-edition/

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan


Jesus they're already on season 2 for this game?

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
that article says they are 'refocusing on core business' which makes me reluctant to buy the game at ANY price until they confirm that this game is part of their core plan going forward.

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost

explosivo posted:

Jesus they're already on season 2 for this game?

Season 1 was the first batch of missions with base game, season 2 was planned to be early release for some time I think. It should be support at least for the next six months or so.

So Starter Edition will be season 1, season 2/anything beyond will be additional DLC. I haven't followed the dev streams as closely as I could, been busy lately. I imagine they'd want a season 3+ but that will probably depend on ongoing sales.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
OTWD is almost certainly core business, it's the only game they've got going.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


welp https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/12/03/starbreeze-file-for-administration-and-replace-ceo/


Who would have guessed releasing a $30 game at $60 featuring an IP that was massively popular 3 years ago would be a financial disaster.

Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007


Soiled Meat
I have about a half dozen irl friends that play co op games together; we're big fans of payday 2.

I'm phone posting and don't have the ability to address the issues around this game right now, but I but I just found this thread and wanted to say we are having a fun, bug free time. Cant wait to play more next chance I get.

Pharmaskittle
Dec 17, 2007

arf arf put the money in the fuckin bag

Jack B Nimble posted:

I have about a half dozen irl friends that play co op games together; we're big fans of payday 2.

I'm phone posting and don't have the ability to address the issues around this game right now, but I but I just found this thread and wanted to say we are having a fun, bug free time. Cant wait to play more next chance I get.

I'm in this group and the game is good folks. It's really tense, the Payday/Vermintide loot drive is good, and the noise mechanic is cool. Idgaf about the walking dad branding, but I don't feel like I'm missing anything by not being invested in that aspect of it. I'm honestly a little surprised the game isn't doing better, but I wasn't planning on playing with pubbies anyway so I'm not worried about it.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
the price point is definitely what shied me off on release - i'm normally an absolute sucker for anything co-op but even i was like "sheesh, 60 bucks? maybe i'll just let mount and blade or CK2 bite me again."

Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007


Soiled Meat
It certainly captures the "failure cascade" feeling of payday where things were fine just ten seconds ago and then two or three unfortunate decisions were made one after another and whelp, time to see how many of the four players are going to get out of this zombie gauntlet alive.

The last mission we won ended with all of us apart, individually navigating a map that was essentially made of zombies, and we were just trying to squeeze through the gaps. And this is the same map, and the same mechanics, that had, for the past hour, our team carefully navigating our way though a neighborhood using stealth and coordination. For a game to have those two scenarios play out, organically, on the same map, is one of the keys to what makes this a great game clearly made by the Payday devs; that's a quality nearly unique to Overkill's games even among the broader co-op fps genre.

Jack B Nimble fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Dec 3, 2018

Elendil004
Mar 22, 2003

The prognosis
is not good.


If you're not in the discord join up, I still have guys to level and such. I hope the studio collapsing isn't to bad, and someone can buy them cheap and continue service but even if this was it with season 2, I've got like a hundred coop fun hours, I can't be real mad.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
starbreeze is overkill's publisher, they aren't the developer in any way - but still, that doesn't mean nothing's wrong. we all remember what happened to Relic when THQ Nordic collapsed.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


Coolguye posted:

starbreeze is overkill's publisher, they aren't the developer in any way - but still, that doesn't mean nothing's wrong. we all remember what happened to Relic when THQ Nordic collapsed.

Starbreeze owns Overkill and I think the guys who ran Overkill aquired a large owership of Starbreeze when they bought them.


Also I think you mean just THQ. THQ Nordic is the current company formerly known as Nordic Games that aquired a bunch of THQ's assets and name.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
i prly do

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
Coolguy is thinking that within a year THQ Nordic and/or 12 Chambers will own what remains of OVERKILL, AKA Payday.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


Crabtree posted:

Coolguy is thinking that within a year THQ Nordic and/or 12 Chambers will own what remains of OVERKILL, AKA Payday.

i'm okay with this

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
really i just get happy when corporations die is that so wrong

RandallODim
Dec 30, 2010

Another 1? Aww man...

Coolguye posted:

really i just get happy when corporations die is that so wrong

Only if you think they're people. :911:

Clearly they should never have let Goldfarb go.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
Starbreeze and Overkill are functionally the same entity; Overkill was basically the branding on Starbreeze's internal devteam.

The sort of silver lining on this is that this means Overkill, and OTWD, are the project most likely to see continued support.

widespread
Aug 5, 2013

I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.


Dangit, I'm now considering giving this game a shot because of both Starbreeze having to restructure to not die and $30 pack.

Coming off of Payday 2, I guess how different is this besides the zombos? Can I run around as a drunk fucker and click cops zombos or is it more fun in some newly designed stealth.

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
This game does not like it when you shot gun unsilenced, but it isn't exactly an instant failure even on the hardest difficulty if you go super loud. The problem mostly comes in not getting caught in a swarm cascade and making sure to not gently caress up royally if its a mission where you have to escort someone to the exit to win.

Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007


Soiled Meat
Unlike payday2, you can often stall things out by climbing up onto something where the zombies cant reach you. It doesnt solve the problem of what you're going to do when you climb down again, but it definitely helps, especially since dead players will continue to respawn while you wait up there.

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost
Gonna call it now for anyone who has anything to do with OWTD tomorrow, I'm gonna be drinking and playing video game all day tomorrow and I am willing to help you do what you need to do. Just tag me and we're at it. The worst I can do is say no. I've gotta do some commentary for an LP early but aside from that, let's hit some zombiehumans.

There's a discord link early on in the thread and if you have problems please post now. I'm trying!

TSBX
Apr 24, 2010
I'll hop on tomorrow night around 8EST or earlier.

Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007


Soiled Meat
Does the affinity characters have with the various weapon groups mean anything beyond what's contained in their skill trees? Like is there an inherent damage bonus? I dont like being limited in my selections, but I want to have a clearer idea of what exactly I'm giving up by not equipping, say, a SMG as the medic lady. When checking a gun as a character, does the damage stat reflect any bonus that character may give?

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost

Jack B Nimble posted:

Does the affinity characters have with the various weapon groups mean anything beyond what's contained in their skill trees? Like is there an inherent damage bonus? I dont like being limited in my selections, but I want to have a clearer idea of what exactly I'm giving up by not equipping, say, a SMG as the medic lady. When checking a gun as a character, does the damage stat reflect any bonus that character may give?

I don't know that the displayed weapon damage changes but characters using signature weapons have a 10% damage bonus with that weapon.

Pharmaskittle
Dec 17, 2007

arf arf put the money in the fuckin bag

I've only been playing on Normal so maybe it changes later, but per-bullet damage seems like it should be relatively low priority and 10% isn't that bad.

Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007


Soiled Meat
Yeah, I can live with that. And it's not even that I dislike the SMG (I'm actually still really feeling out each gun vs zombies, which I take as a good sign for the game. I know I prefer sniper rifles for humans.), it's just that I'm going to be playing one character for the duration of my time with the game and I cant stand restricting myself to the guns the character gets a bonus with. But it sounds like I shouldn't really worry about that.

zeroskippy
Apr 10, 2016
So the $30 price point has me sold on trying this, are there any new player guide I can ready over while I download?

Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007


Soiled Meat

zeroskippy posted:

So the $30 price point has me sold on trying this, are there any new player guide I can ready over while I download?

https://screenrant.com/overkills-the-walking-dead-tips-tricks-guide/

Edit: it's interesting how this game uses the same guns as payday2 but the different settings changes how I feel about them. I never cared much for the styrk 88 pistol when clicking on the police, but I just used it in a base defense mission and it's the best gun I've found so far in terms of having a large magazine, killing in one headshot, and reliably hitting that headshot with every hit.

Jack B Nimble fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Dec 6, 2018

Elendil004
Mar 22, 2003

The prognosis
is not good.


I know nobody but me and Scruffy play this anymore but the last two maps were pretty solid and while nobody knows the future with the publisher being in trouble, it's still fun to kill some zombs now and then. Join us!

Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007


Soiled Meat
I like the game, its fallen off my radar a bit because of other titles but thats nothing against OKTWD. It really is a good game, take a chance if you're on the fence.

Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007


Soiled Meat
Looks like the game is officially dead. I stand by the praise I gave it earlier in the thread but, in final analysis, I think question isn't merely whether a game is good or bad (game was good) but whether or not it's as good as the time and money spent making it suggests it should be (probably not).

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Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
how official are we talking here

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