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Ocean Book posted:id vote for al gore if not for bernie, same actually
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whatis posted:if not for bernie, same actually BERN AND GORE THEM ALL 2020
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https://twitter.com/elainaplott/status/1070669447654977536quote:On the other hand, of the day’s worth of videos and robo-calls Biden recorded for midterm candidates, many weren’t used, with several of the campaigns deciding he came off as too tired, and worn out, according to people familiar with the decisions to keep them on the shelf. lmao Trump is going to get re elected so easily
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Vox Nihili posted:Zerglingman is back to hillposting--primary season has officially opened! I'm just saying attacking cults of personality among political leaders is silly cause everyone has them
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why the gently caress isn't Sherrod Brown running, isn't he mostly an 11 year younger bernie
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Joe Biden says "I’m ready to litigate all those things", while using that very phrase as a way to deflect from litigating them right then
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:https://twitter.com/elainaplott/status/1070669447654977536 You know, there's this fella in Vermont, who is older than Biden and NOT EVEN A DEMOCRAT, yet he sounds more energetic and doesn't slur every second word 
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zegermans posted:why the gently caress isn't Sherrod Brown running, isn't he mostly an 11 year younger bernie IIRC he's impressively progressive for the chud area he represents but has some yikes policies / opinions
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you know I appreciate this even tho I’d still never vote for him in a primary lol.
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biden going to implode immediately so enjoy the show
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zegermans posted:why the gently caress isn't Sherrod Brown running, isn't he mostly an 11 year younger bernie
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Sherrod Brown is a center-left populist but he's definitely not a Bernie, and has a far less stellar record on foreign policy and has refused to commit to supporting Medicare for All.,
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lol name anyone who has a shot in 2020 who isn't disastrous on foreign policy
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Jose posted:lol name anyone who has a shot in 2020 who isn't disastrous on foreign policy Bernie’s not good but he’s not a disaster, which puts him leagues ahead of everyone else
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Jose posted:lol name anyone who has a shot in 2020 who isn't disastrous on foreign policy Barbara Lee. 
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logikv9 posted:biden going to implode immediately so enjoy the show i hope he stays in through the early primaries off sheer inertia
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Jose posted:lol name anyone who has a shot in 2020 who isn't disastrous on foreign policy google ron paul
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Zoran posted:Bernie’s not good but he’s not a disaster, which puts him leagues ahead of everyone else he was on anderson cooper yesterday to talk about jamal khashoggi's murder and pretty much spent the whole time discussing the ongoing genocide in yemen and our complicity, which i mean nobody else is gonna bring up at least he's been doing his homework
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THS posted:google ron paul i did this and apparently i'm supposed to kill my parents?
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nobody in usa outside very commited liberals and libertarians gives a poo poo about foreign policy outside of "we are blowing up terrists rite?
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The more I think about it, the more I think it'll be virtually impossible for an unknown/longshot to win the nomination. The reason for this is a combination of a large field at the start, and the changes to the primary schedule. Specifically, CA and TX are both on Super Tuesday now. These are physically large states with very large delegate counts. The winner(s) of those primaries will be very well positioned going forward. But campaigning in those states will be expensive, which will stand as a barrier to long-shot candidates and likely deplete the war-chests of anyone without a strong initial following. On top of that, CA has so many vote-by-mail voters that you can't just start campaigning there after IA/NH/NV/SC. The conventional path for a relative unknown or longshot candidate to win, by winning early in IA/NH and building momentum after that, is derailed by the expensive necessity to win in CA and TX early. Maybe someone could do it if they sweep or win at least three of those first four contests, but in a crowded field that is extremely unlikely. For these reasons, I don't see how anyone aside from Bernie/Biden/Beto/Harris wins. Bernie and Biden have the anti-establishment/establishment frontrunner status, Beto and Harris have home field advantage for TX/CA.
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I'm not saying he's out of step with the usual just that given a choice there's really no reason to go for him, not to mention that he is absolutely going to be replaced by a chud with the current politics of Ohio if he doesn't run for his seat, there really isn't any good reason to support him other than "he's somewhat less old", even from a viability standpoint why would you give up on the household name recognition, favorability, and fundraising machine Bernie's last bid built up? I mean yeah I'd vote for him if Bernie dropped dead and Brown ran, but c'mon, Medicare for All should at least be a starting point for a candidate in 2020, because anything less will end up just like the ACA with a Frankenstein like compromise like a public option that will just create more ammunition for a reaction that tears it further apart.
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Tricky Dick Nixon posted:I'm not saying he's out of step with the usual just that given a choice there's really no reason to go for him, not to mention that he is absolutely going to be replaced by a chud with the current politics of Ohio if he doesn't run for his seat, there really isn't any good reason to support him other than "he's somewhat less old", even from a viability standpoint why would you give up on the household name recognition, favorability, and fundraising machine Bernie's last bid built up? He's not a known grifter, Bernie is. Doesn't matter though neither is getting the nom.
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MysteriousStranger posted:He's not a known grifter, Bernie is. what makes sanders a grifter in comparison to anyone else vying for the nomination
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MysteriousStranger posted:He's not a known grifter, Bernie is.
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MysteriousStranger posted:He's not a known grifter, Bernie is. 
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MysteriousStranger posted:He's not a known grifter, Bernie is. Would love to hear from you (a moron) about who will be getting the nom.
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Vox Nihili posted:Would love to hear from you (a moron) about who will be getting the nom. I believe he is a Basta stan which makes the "Bernie is a known grifter" comment infinitely funnier.
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MysteriousStranger posted:He's not a known grifter, Bernie is. 
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MysteriousStranger posted:He's not a known grifter, Bernie is. gently caress those $250,000 speeches he's giving to wall street!
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Vox Nihili posted:Would love to hear from you (a moron) about who will be getting the nom. Luis Gutierrez is gonna win both Texas and Cali and coast from there
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bawfuls posted:The more I think about it, the more I think it'll be virtually impossible for an unknown/longshot to win the nomination. The reason for this is a combination of a large field at the start, and the changes to the primary schedule. An important rule to consider is a large chunk of delegates are allocated by congressional district not at the state level. I think there is only one way for an outsider candidate to overcome the media cost disadvantage you outline, the ground game. Volunteers that are enthusiastic and dedicated combined with a campaign aggressively seeking “earned media” can more than overcome the money advantage of more establishment candidates.
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