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Whats the deal with this guy? Please respond here about him
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Nov 28, 2018 13:29
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He understands the us is bad so I am a Y
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Nov 28, 2018 13:35
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Look at how excited these dogs at the dog shelter he runs are to see him https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1066799999319707648 He hires homeless people to run it to help get them off the street https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/988394279956549632
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Nov 28, 2018 13:48
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He had some bad views and was a libertarian but he doesn't seem to be a libertarian any more and mostly seems alright, at least by the standards of western media in that he's not just a lazy nationalist. Also his husband is way out of his league & that's cool.
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Nov 28, 2018 14:01
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The Intercept Y/N? Jeremy Scahill Y/N? Assange Y/N?
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Nov 28, 2018 14:02
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y/?/n
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Nov 28, 2018 14:23
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Seems like kind of a dumbass. Probably better off not getting involved in politics or journalism.
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Nov 28, 2018 14:57
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Pollyanna posted:Seems like kind of a dumbass. Probably better off not getting involved in politics or journalism. Just like the rest of us. 
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Nov 28, 2018 14:59
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Robin Williams posted:The Intercept Y/N? I like The Intercept and Scahill, for the most part. He seems laser focused on making sure to remind his audience that America is no peach re: the history of the CIA, FBI, and corporate influence on American foreign policy.. He relates most, if not all things happening in the world to some connection to the world's history of colonialism and imperialism and service to capitalism. I like him, but at some points I find the same outrage repeated over and over gets a little tedious. I usually bounce out of the podcast when the musical guest comes on. Haven't listened to it in a few months, though.
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Nov 28, 2018 15:11
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Nov 28, 2018 15:15
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he's the not totally lovely version of batman.
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Nov 28, 2018 15:28
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Y on some things n on other things Politics is a world of contrasts
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Nov 28, 2018 15:30
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Glen N The Intercept Y? Jeremy Y Assange N
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Nov 28, 2018 15:34
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Pollyanna posted:Seems like kind of a dumbass. Probably better off not getting involved in politics or journalism. This is where I have ended up after years of him existing.
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Nov 28, 2018 15:35
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Y he triggers the libs
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Nov 28, 2018 16:02
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Glenn's skepticism of the government asserting things without evidence, even if they're things that seem obvious and WELL DUH to everyone is incredibly important. The run-up to Iraq shouldn't be forgiven, and to have at least one credible voice in the media screaming SHOW YOUR WORK to every assertion is useful and vital, no matter how bad it pisses off people across the political spectrum. As for the handwringing over his his appearances on FOX, it's utterly disingenuous when you can show Democrat after Democrat on the same channel, without having been accused of being collaborators or whatever.
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Nov 28, 2018 21:31
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Glenn doesn't ever really have high peaks, but he managed some impressively dumb valleys. I see no reason to listen to him over people who can also say some generally true things while also not having some supergiant blue-white hot takes on stuff like russia.
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Nov 28, 2018 22:25
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forkboy84 posted:He had some bad views and was a libertarian but he doesn't seem to be a libertarian any more and mostly seems alright, at least by the standards of western media in that he's not just a lazy nationalist. Even his bad opinions are, in my opinion, less harmful than the lazy nationalism the vast majority of US politicians and media figures default to. I'd rather have someone who is overly skeptical about US government claims about the actions of foreign dictators than someone who blindly accepts everything the US government claims at face value, at least in the context of our current world. A lot of the criticism of him isn't exactly wrong, but is heavily disproportionate when countless other more mainstream figures, both liberal and conservative, are guilty of far worse. edit: Basically he seems to have found himself on the list of "people liberals feel compelled to state their distaste for in an effort to broadcast that they are reasonable and not like Those Loony Lefties" Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Nov 28, 2018 |
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Nov 28, 2018 22:29
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Glenn Greenwald is the textbook definition of "right, but also a huge douchebag." He's a good reporter who can write stellar, genuinely amazing journalism. His work on factory farming is impeccable for example. But he is one of those people who transitioned from white fuckboi Republican to leftist and he's not all the way there yet. So he's still in that douchebag anti-establishment libertarian phase where he defines his politics by how he stands against the Man rather than any kind of coherent ideology, shies away from identifying as leftist, etc. This is why his critique of the Russia investigation is basically contrarianism and "where's your evidence nerd" rather than rising to any kind of criticism of capitalism itself, ACAB, etc. He will hopefully stop pretending one of these days and just accept that he's a leftist now and he can talk about Marx and take a position, it's ok, no one will hurt you Greenwald. He also needs to stop going on Tucker, like seriously. The Intercept is generally good as far as I know, I have no particular opinion on Scahill. Assange is trash and he ruined a good thing with Wikileaks imo.
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Nov 28, 2018 22:29
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Everyone involved with wikileaks has turned out to be a massive sex pest
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Nov 28, 2018 22:34
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N. His only real position is "America bad" with no nuance or thought of any kind attached. He is beloved mostly by leftists who also take that position. He is also a very irresponsible journalist. Just ask Reality Winner.
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Nov 28, 2018 22:49
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Clearly I need to do the same old masterpost I always do since the same old dumbasses are showing up with the same old lies.
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Nov 28, 2018 22:54
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Ogmius815 posted:N. His only real position is "America bad" with no nuance or thought of any kind attached. He is beloved mostly by leftists who also take that position. He is also a very irresponsible journalist. Just ask Reality Winner. Jesus this is so lazy.
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Nov 28, 2018 23:06
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Ogmius815 posted:N. His only real position is "America bad" with no nuance or thought of any kind attached. He is beloved mostly by leftists who also take that position. He is also a very irresponsible journalist. Just ask Reality Winner. if only he hadn't shown you that Obama thought your civil rights were a joke, to which Trump was the punchline...
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Nov 28, 2018 23:10
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Ogmius815 posted:N. His only real position is "America bad" with no nuance or thought of any kind attached. He is beloved mostly by leftists who also take that position. He is also a very irresponsible journalist. Just ask Reality Winner. Has it ever been proved he had any responsibility in the Reality Winner debacle? I was left with the understanding he wasn't directly involved and she also was a little bit of a gently caress up by sending stuff from her work computer. I mean if you want to assign him blame because he's the founder then ok I guess but I don't know that he has any direct personal responsibility that's been proven?
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Nov 28, 2018 23:14
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It's going to be great to see how many times people bring up reality winner, when it's been established again and again that he didn't edit or write the story over the documents she leaked, and when her indictment makes clear that the primary reason they found her was because she emailed the intercept from her work computer and work email.
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Nov 28, 2018 23:27
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'more like reality loser' -glem greenwald, probably
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Nov 28, 2018 23:42
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Robin Williams posted:Whats the deal with this guy? I for one second do not believe you are Robin Williams.
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Nov 28, 2018 23:46
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I think that OP's question has been sufficiently answered by people who stand on both sides of the issue, and as it is not a very substantive thread, I am closing it. Thank you everyone who contributed.
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Nov 29, 2018 01:15
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