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RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

mlmp08 posted:

https://twitter.com/SenGianaris/status/1077926553491787778

https://twitter.com/inthesedeserts/status/1079311768160215041

Yes, of course the two represent very different demographics, but lmao at going salt-mode on a new rep in your own party on your way out the door, having just lost your reelection bid.

She looks like my ex mother in law lol

shameful :69snypa:

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Oxygenpoisoning
Feb 21, 2006

RFC2324 posted:

She looks like my ex mother in law lol

shameful :69snypa:

She looks like everyone woman who I had sent back a meal that was the correct order because they didn’t know “Spicy Cajun Chicken” was spicy when I was a waiter. And somehow always demand they take it off the check even though they ate 3/4 of it. And the give a 3% tip.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
From a NYT article on the killing of Najjar, a medic in Palestine.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/30/world/middleeast/gaza-medic-israel-shooting.html

quote:

To Shoot or Not to Shoot
Three medics down, all from one bullet. It seemed improbable.

But The Times’s reconstruction confirmed it: The bullet hit the ground in front of the medics, then fragmented, part of it ricocheting upward and piercing Ms. Najjar’s chest.

It was fired from a sand berm used by Israeli snipers at least 120 yards from where the medics fell.

The Israeli military’s rules of engagement are classified. But a spokesman, Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus, said that snipers may shoot only at people posing a violent threat, like “cutting the fence, throwing grenades.”

To deliberately shoot a medic, or any civilian, is a war crime. Israel quickly conceded that Ms. Najjar’s killing was unintended.

“She was not the target,” Colonel Conricus said. “None of the medical personnel are ever a target.”


But no Israeli soldiers reported accidental shootings. After-action reports said snipers aimed at four men that day and hit them all, the army said.

The Times found the first, third and fourth of those protesters, each shot in the leg exactly when and how the army said they were. But The Times could not corroborate the army’s description of the second person it said was shot, which matched the time Ms. Najjar was killed.


The army said it was a man in a yellow shirt who was throwing stones and pulling at the fence. But the only man in a yellow shirt anywhere near the line of fire was not doing that or much of anything else, The Times found. He stood about 120 yards from the fence and posed no threat.

Even if the man was a legitimate target, there remains the question of the medics standing behind him.

Former Israeli and American snipers said it would be reckless to shoot if anyone who was not a legitimate target could be put at risk. Reckless killing can also be a war crime.

Prof. Ryan Goodman, a New York University expert on the laws of war, who was a special counsel to the Pentagon on war crimes and targeting rules, said the key to whether a war crime was committed was whether the sniper was aware of a high risk that civilians would be harmed.

“The laws of war would not want any military personnel to deliberately fire in the direction of the medics,” Mr. Goodman said. “I’m not saying it’s close to the line. I’m saying it crosses the line.”

After this has gained so much notoriety, Israel has launched a criminal investigation, but, uh.... who knows how transparent or fair that will be in practice?

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Ba-dam ba-DUMMMMMM

mlmp08 posted:

https://twitter.com/SenGianaris/status/1077926553491787778

https://twitter.com/inthesedeserts/status/1079311768160215041

Yes, of course the two represent very different demographics, but lmao at going salt-mode on a new rep in your own party on your way out the door, having just lost your reelection bid.

quote:

The two-term Democratic senator also warned Ocasio-Cortez not to ignore the plight of white working-class voters who have distanced themselves from the Democratic Party in recent years.

seinfeld_im_out.gif

“Please don’t forget to pander to the eCoNoMiC aNxIeTy crowd; the Democratic Party of yore simply can’t survive without the rural racist vote!”

Dwanyelle
Jan 13, 2008

ISRAEL DOESN'T HAVE CIVILIANS THEY'RE ALL VALID TARGETS
I'm a huge dickbag ignore me
Lol, AOCs policies would help those poor rural folk, if they could get over themselves.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

mlmp08 posted:

From a NYT article on the killing of Najjar, a medic in Palestine.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/30/world/middleeast/gaza-medic-israel-shooting.html


After this has gained so much notoriety, Israel has launched a criminal investigation, but, uh.... who knows how transparent or fair that will be in practice?

Not sure if it's being tried in military or civilian court, but I thought the Israeli courts and justice department were fairly independent? They've recommended charges against Netanyahu, and he'll probably be indicted.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
https://twitter.com/JillFilipovic/status/1078701940794519553

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008


I love when conservatives selectively forget about the Revolutionary War and all the extremely violent events leading up to it.

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



Fister Roboto posted:

I love when conservatives selectively forget about the Revolutionary War and all the extremely violent events leading up to it.

quote:

I MUST make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizens Councillor or the Ku Klux Klanner but the white moderate who is more devoted to order than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says, "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically feels that he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time; and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

MLK :words:

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

Bring back tar and feathers.

Retrowave Joe
Jul 20, 2001

And the guillotine for the rowdier chickens

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Retardog posted:

And the guillotine for the rowdier chickens

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

pantslesswithwolves posted:

seinfeld_im_out.gif

“Please don’t forget to pander to the eCoNoMiC aNxIeTy crowd; the Democratic Party of yore simply can’t survive without the rural racist vote!”

Wasn't it more well off whiteys that voted Trump in?

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
Inscrutability level: 100

https://twitter.com/MELANIATRUMP/status/480709395706179584

-Anders
Feb 1, 2007

Denmark. Wait, what?
What the actual gently caress

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
Twitter changed their image host API and I guess they're running into duplication issues for older posts. Apparently a bunch of professional sports team tweets from the 2012 era had to get taken down because the images were now porn.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

Eej posted:

Wasn't it more well off whiteys that voted Trump in?

Yeah people go on about the stupid rural poors voting against their interests but I think they'd react very well to a Democratic party that removed its head from its rear end and stopped completely abandoning them. And if a certain minority of leftists stopped talking down to them too.

And just to be perfectly clear the way to do this is to be openly left on economic issues and not Republican-lite on all issues like McCaskill.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
The best part is McCaskill lost while clinging to the center in a state that passed a minimum wage increase and rejected right to work

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1079429680321699842?s=19

https://twitter.com/RespectableLaw/status/1079426450976059392?s=19

Really enjoy the comments not realizing it is a joke

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Proud Christian Mom posted:

The best part is McCaskill lost while clinging to the center in a state that passed a minimum wage increase and rejected right to work


The state also elected a supermajority of Republicans who are going to overrule the minimum wage increase, overrule the nonpartisan redistricting and anti-lobbyist amendment, and restore right to work.

Jason Kander ran to the left two years ago and also lost.

The lesson here is that Missouri voters outside of the big cities are a bunch of inbred mouthbreathing rednecks.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

Stultus Maximus posted:

The state also elected a supermajority of Republicans who are going to overrule the minimum wage increase, overrule the nonpartisan redistricting and anti-lobbyist amendment, and restore right to work.

Jason Kander ran to the left two years ago and also lost.

The lesson here is that Missouri voters outside of the big cities are a bunch of inbred mouthbreathing rednecks.

That's the spirit that'll win them over! Great job.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Eej posted:

Wasn't it more well off whiteys that voted Trump in?

No. Objectively no. (well, the whitey part, yes?)

Nationwide, among the wealthiest people, Trump had a 1-2 point margin.

Among the most poor people, Hillary had a wide margin. (Turns out minorities make less money in the USA). This did not apply to rural poor, who overwhelmingly voted Trump!

Trump cleaned up in the $50K-100K annual income envelope. That's where some people get the "don't forget the middle class" thing, but also it's important to remember geography and demographics. He cleaned up hard in that area in, say, the Southeast and less so in California.

Among the biggest predictors of voting Trump: White, male, no degree, suburban/rural, protestant, married.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

my kinda ape posted:

That's the spirit that'll win them over! Great job.

Yeah, I should be a lot nicer to those racist white idiots, definitely something I care about. If only I cater to their stupid white fragility, they'll stop voting for incompetent demagogues and representatives who overtly flip the bird to the will of the voters.

What a great loving use of my time and effort.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Thanks to whover bought an even more hyperbolic successor to one of my favorite emotes:

:yikes:
:ohno:

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler
Ah that classic Democratic refrain: "you're not worth our time"

It's not like there's an immense right wing corporate brainwashing apparatus at work or anything.

Or a concerted effort to suppress voters who might think it's worth their time to vote for someone who's actually looking out for them despite living in districts where it appears everything is stacked against them.

my kinda ape fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Dec 30, 2018

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

my kinda ape posted:

Ah that classic Democratic refrain: "you're not worth our time"

It's not like there's an immense right wing corporate brainwashing apparatus at work or anything.

Or a concerted effort to suppress voters who might think it's worth their time to vote for someone who's actually looking out for them despite living in districts where it appears everything is stacked against them.

No, they aren't worth my time. The little time I have to spend on political activity is spent on trying to fix the damage that these racist chuds are continually doing to the people in my city.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

my kinda ape posted:

Ah that classic Democratic refrain: "you're not worth our time"


This is the GOP refrain except add in imprisonment and/or genocide.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

mlmp08 posted:

This is the GOP refrain except add in imprisonment and/or genocide.

Glad to hear both parties are on the same page!

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

my kinda ape posted:

Glad to hear both parties are on the same page!

I’m not sure if you’re joking, drunk posting, or just an idiot?

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
It's worth noting that rural Missouri is the meth capitol of the country, and will actively vote for the people who run on campaigns that tell them that the candidate will "stand up to the thugs and gays from Saint Louis and Kansas City".

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
https://twitter.com/dvk01uk/status/1079372880612343809?s=19

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
I just watched The Social Network for the first time a few days ago, and I don't know how people can keep forgetting that Zuckerberg made a website to rate female classmates by hacking his schools system.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

my kinda ape posted:

Ah that classic Democratic refrain: "you're not worth our time"

It's not like there's an immense right wing corporate brainwashing apparatus at work or anything.

Or a concerted effort to suppress voters who might think it's worth their time to vote for someone who's actually looking out for them despite living in districts where it appears everything is stacked against them.

:nallears:

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

mlmp08 posted:

I’m not sure if you’re joking, drunk posting, or just an idiot?

My point is that saying "gently caress you we don't care about you" is just as bad a strategy as trying to be Republican-lite and "gently caress you we don't care about you" has implicitly been the Democratic platform for rural areas, or sometimes explicitly as we've seen in this thread. It's dogshit messaging and they will never make inroads in places they won't at least pretend to care about. The whole "deplorables" comment wasn't untrue but it probably lost Hillary the election. "gently caress you we don't care about you" is the actual Republican platform but since they at least pretend to care it doesn't really matter when the other party isn't saying they'll be any different.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

my kinda ape posted:

publican platform but since they at least pretend to care it doesn't really matter when the other party isn't saying they'll be any different.

You think Republicans pretend to care about minorities and any/all people facing debt and climate change? lol.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
There isn't any difference between writing off vast swathes of the country and being okay with children locked up in concentration camps. This is the space the center occupies.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


my kinda ape posted:

"gently caress you we don't care about you" has implicitly been the Democratic platform for rural areas,

?

Disaster relief, public school funding, welfare, clinic support, social security, Medicaid, etc etc. How are Democrats specifically trying to gently caress rural areas?

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
“I’m not sure we can get a sixty year old white racist farmer to vote for us,” says the liberal.

“We’re basically the same,” says the person openly advocating genocide.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

drat it hosed up the probation :effort:

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my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

That Works posted:

?

Disaster relief, public school funding, welfare, clinic support, social security, Medicaid, etc etc. How are Democrats specifically trying to gently caress rural areas?

They're not actively trying to gently caress them but until very recently they've put in little to no effort to court these areas. That IS beginning to change I think and that's great, but it's going to take quite a while to have an effect. Having the attitude where you say poo poo like

Stultus Maximus posted:

Missouri voters outside of the big cities are a bunch of inbred mouthbreathing rednecks.
is counterproductive and lovely. That's my whole argument. Acting like people from a certain area are unworthy subhumans isn't going to get any of them that are otherwise sympathetic to your positions to go out and vote. They'll just stay home and let the chuds vote.

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