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my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler
Who's Beekman?

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my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler
His daughter is 20 and is doing the naturalist thing too.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

LtCol J. Krusinski posted:

Does anyone know how much it would actually cost to implement Medicare for all? It’s gotta be in the trillions. Then again so is the F-35 program when it’s all said and done. 1.5 trillion or so for the F-35. But that’s spread over the next 50 or so years.

I’m not against UHC. I’m just curious what it would cost. Something tells me it could be afforded if we had the National will for it.

I’ve always been a fan of passing laws and regulations that make health insurance not for profit, and heavily (completely, probably.) subsidize the costs for people with less or no income and charge reasonable prices for everyone else.

I don’t know how the gently caress you can reform Medicine costs from the pharmaceutical industry.

There’s so many facets to the healthcare problem, I have the hardest time imagining picturing congress fixing healthcare in my lifetime. My bet is that it’ll be a lot like weed is now, some states have good reasonable laws and regulations, others are bullshit. So red states will probably continue to shoot themselves in the foot and blue states will have different laws and access to healthcare.

Just look at how hard it was to get the ACA through a Dem controlled congress and White House. How in the wide world of gently caress are we ever gonna have universal healthcare?

I wish AOC the best of luck in congress, she’ll hopefully go on to do really good things. Getting Medicare for all, however, or any UHC proposal for that matter seems impossible.

Would love to be proven completely wrong by congress, but who are we kidding?

IIRC a libertarian thinktank did the math recently and Fox and all the conservative sites were using their study to say "UHC will cost $XX trillion!!!" while neglecting to say that even according to the libertarians it would save an enormous amount of money when compared to keeping our current system. So yeah it's gonna cost a loving enormous amount of money but keeping our current system is going to cost that x2-3 while bankrupting tons of people or just letting them die.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

shame on an IGA posted:

directv says they're exiting the satellite business

Do they uh, do anything else? Are they just closing up shop entirely???

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

lol why would they do this?

The Brands got annoyed that there was so much porn on the website that people definitely go to to interact with Brands and not jerk off to niche porn so management decided to get rid of what drives supposedly over 50% of their user traffic.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

mlmp08 posted:

Yeah bad usernames but this poo poo is too funny to not post.

It’s ironic. He might be a goon IIRC

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler
Hahaha God drat. Why does anyone voluntarily work for this administration anymore??

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler
Looks like the criminals had cell phones! Diabolical.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

Hexyflexy posted:

Wait until tomorrow morning, central Europe time, the European Court of Justice is ruling on whether Britain can unilaterally cancel the Brexit. Our media here isn't talking about this a whole lot, but if they say "yes", it's going to be chaos.

We may well not have a government come Tuesday, which'll be awesome.

They ruled yes. Congrats on the chaos!

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

Proud Christian Mom posted:

Witness Protection is a country in which the ruling party is pretty clearly compromised by Russia?

I was about to say it would be incredibly embarrassing for the administration to have Russia cause the first ever loss of someone in witness protection under their watch but then I remembered that incredibly embarrassing is their MO.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler
"He shot himself in the back of the head twice. He always was a good marksman."

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

Slim Pickens posted:

They manage to grow all the hops, corn and apples out that way too(and onions that I still haven't eaten)

But since that'll all be farmed by 12 dudes and 500 robots in ten years, gently caress em

We can't even make self driving cars that don't run into anything, if you think we're anywhere close to fully automated farm equipment then lmao

Not to mention that it'd cost 4x what *anyone* farming could afford.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

Hexyflexy posted:

Depends what bit of farming you mean, automated combines and other arable has been a thing for a decade, though by automated I mean you still need to stick your kid in the cab to turn it off if it goes wrong.

You absolutely need a human operator. The guidance systems make the operator's life at lot easier but if you let the thing go on its own you're gonna end up with a four or five (or six) digit repair bill in 20 minutes at best. Even nice flat fields are not flat and obstruction free and most places are not nice and flat.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler
I think that's wildly optimistic. At best you’ll have a handful of machines being closely monitored by one operator. In like fifty years.

It’s like the people who say truckers are all gonna be out of business in 10 years because of self driving trucks. Yeah sure I'll believe it when I see it.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

not caring here posted:

Yeah, harvesters are slow enough that you could outfit them with GNSS and lidar so they could pinpoint their location literally down to the centimeter

They're already accurate to within 2" or something. My point is that not having someone to watch the half million dollar machine flop around on rough ground ingesting everything in front of it is financially insane.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

Such tiny doors, it'll only take us a few loader buckets full of dirt to cover each one!

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

Proud Christian Mom posted:

white collar crimes should be the only crimes punishable by death

not emptyquoting

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

BigDave posted:

Question, if that would actually happen, would the secret service stop the FBI or US Marshalls from arresting him?

FWIW I'm mutuals with a former Secret Service guy on twitter so I asked him how they'd respond if someone tried to arrest the president and he said: "Hand him over as long as the warrant is valid. Go along with him to booking."

Obviously this might depend on who's on duty and in charge at the time but unless Trump has been stuffing the secret service with his cronies then I imagine it'd go down like he said.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

BaconAndBullets posted:

My god, imagine just being the last person standing on a sinking ship and being told that you're in charge now.

Admiral Donitz'd

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

Immanentized posted:

Ricketts is associated with my employer, he shows up and randomly lectures for an hour from time to time and is generally treated as a fortunate idiot.
His son, Pete is twice as dumb and about as evil.

Remember the time that Pete bought the position of Governor for our state and then personally funded a campaign to reinstate the death penalty after the Republican controlled legislature got rid of it?

Good times.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

Immanentized posted:

Hear how his current platform is "I'm bringing stand your ground to Nebraska!"?

Say what you will but the man is consistent with his love of killing!

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

LtCol J. Krusinski posted:

Can’t really understand wanting to see a guy nailed for killing a taliban bomb maker.

If the civilian cops in somewhere here in the US thought they caught a serial killer and then decided to take him out back, shoot him, and bury him, all without trial, would it be OK?

Like yeah if they’re right he's an evil person who doesn't deserve to live but should we trust Sgt Dipshit to be judge, jury, and executioner?

my kinda ape fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Dec 16, 2018

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

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Oven Wrangler

Godholio posted:

Not really, they feed you.

I don't think Rhode Island and Delaware have THAT much agricultural output.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

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FAUXTON posted:

No that's California.

Not when the water runs out!

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

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Oven Wrangler

Fallom posted:

I welcome SecDef Petraeus

SecDef John Bolton, calling it now

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

She's the only one qualified to be speaker!!

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

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Oven Wrangler

Slim Pickens posted:

The rose is a DSA thing I'm pretty sure

Yeah the rose is a DSA symbol although it obviously doesn't mean they are an actual DSA member if they have it or aren't if they don't. Basically just a way to signal to other people that you're a socialist. Like QAnon people using a red X or centrist dems using a donut...for some reason.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler
Radcliff does all sorts of weird roles and he's usually pretty good. Seems like an ideal career IMO.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

hobbesmaster posted:

That’s literally what NICS is for right?

I for one can't wait to be added to the no-fly list because Mastercard thinks no honest man needs 500 rounds of .22lr!

Meanwhile the military can't be bothered to file the paperwork to make sure their wife beating psychopaths can't pass a background check.

Nobody is gonna buy 30 guns and go shoot up a school while carrying them all around like an overloaded RPG character. You only need one to carry out a mass shooting. Just more poo poo that doesn't actually do anything to save lives. If you want to actually have a meaningful effect then make sure domestic abusers can't get access to firearms and more heavily regulate pistols.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

mlmp08 posted:

Alternate valid take: that's how you say it in English, so it's every bit as valid as saying Germany instead of Deutschland.

I think this is the right way to go about this kind of thing. Once there's an established name for a country in a language it's OK to pronounce it that way even if it's nothing like what a native to that country would call it. Spain/España etc.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

Um Noah Webster bitch. First American dictionary published in 1806 in Hartford

Connecticut is the standard for American English

Suck my nutmeg dick from the back everyone else

Sad!

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

Evil SpongeBob posted:

Same map could be used showing the highest concentration of boring in America.

Watch yourself or we'll cut off the supply of corn and society will collapse.

https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/1074810043495796736
(read the whole thread)

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler
Also Trump is notorious for not paying people so the loyalty may be short lived.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

Plastic_Gargoyle posted:

Can I get a translation on this?

Centrist dems love the guy who gave Ted Cruz a run for his money and want him to run for president. Leftist people are looking at his record and finding him to be more conservative than they would like for a president. Obviously he's wildly better than Cruz either way but for a national president they want someone who's not a centrist.

Centrist dems think this skepticism is a dastardly coordinated attack.

my kinda ape fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Dec 26, 2018

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

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Oven Wrangler

Obviously that's a broad generalization but yeah there's a ton of people on twitter who want Beto4Prez

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

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Oven Wrangler

Eej posted:

Wasn't it more well off whiteys that voted Trump in?

Yeah people go on about the stupid rural poors voting against their interests but I think they'd react very well to a Democratic party that removed its head from its rear end and stopped completely abandoning them. And if a certain minority of leftists stopped talking down to them too.

And just to be perfectly clear the way to do this is to be openly left on economic issues and not Republican-lite on all issues like McCaskill.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

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Oven Wrangler

Stultus Maximus posted:

The state also elected a supermajority of Republicans who are going to overrule the minimum wage increase, overrule the nonpartisan redistricting and anti-lobbyist amendment, and restore right to work.

Jason Kander ran to the left two years ago and also lost.

The lesson here is that Missouri voters outside of the big cities are a bunch of inbred mouthbreathing rednecks.

That's the spirit that'll win them over! Great job.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

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Oven Wrangler
Ah that classic Democratic refrain: "you're not worth our time"

It's not like there's an immense right wing corporate brainwashing apparatus at work or anything.

Or a concerted effort to suppress voters who might think it's worth their time to vote for someone who's actually looking out for them despite living in districts where it appears everything is stacked against them.

my kinda ape fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Dec 30, 2018

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

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mlmp08 posted:

This is the GOP refrain except add in imprisonment and/or genocide.

Glad to hear both parties are on the same page!

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my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

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mlmp08 posted:

I’m not sure if you’re joking, drunk posting, or just an idiot?

My point is that saying "gently caress you we don't care about you" is just as bad a strategy as trying to be Republican-lite and "gently caress you we don't care about you" has implicitly been the Democratic platform for rural areas, or sometimes explicitly as we've seen in this thread. It's dogshit messaging and they will never make inroads in places they won't at least pretend to care about. The whole "deplorables" comment wasn't untrue but it probably lost Hillary the election. "gently caress you we don't care about you" is the actual Republican platform but since they at least pretend to care it doesn't really matter when the other party isn't saying they'll be any different.

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