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Best Not WWE Name
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Up North 70 41.92%
New York 21 12.57%
Titan 12 7.19%
Stamford 18 10.78%
The XXX Porno Wrestling on the Other Channel 46 27.54%
Total: 167 votes
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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Congratulations to Crown Jewel for winning the whole thing despite technically being in its rookie year.

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

From memory, Mickie did beat LayCool and put them in their place... but in a symptom of an ongoing issue that would only get worse, the feud then bizarrely just picked up again like 2 weeks later for no real reason and LayCool basically came out on top that time.

It was really, really weird and gross. I remember defending it at the time it first started because LayCool were clearly meant to be idiots and the notion that Mickie James was fat was ludicrous, but by the time they were done it was one of those,"THE END! NO MORAL!" situations.

Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Dec 6, 2018

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Gavok posted:

Not sure I dig this gender-flipped reboot of Booker T vs. Triple H.

No no, I said that at one point the face got one over on the heel, which never happened in Booker T vs. Triple H.

:sigh:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

fatherofmustard posted:

And Alexa won that feud.

Plus Nia seems kind of happy to do Alexa's dirty work for her now too.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

TV Zombie posted:

Do the wrestlers get health insurance?

Not sure what the current situation is, but Lance Storm recently spoke about how when he came over to WWE post the WCW-Buyout, he was given a card and whenever he needed to get medical treatment in America he'd just hand it over and he'd never get any kind of bill. He didn't know the details of whatever plan or coverage he had, all he knew was,"I show them the card, they treat me, I don't get charged."

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Cavauro posted:

one thing WWE should consider is to use the name of a good dead person on some sort of event or cause even though it's actually bad. don't just partner up with a company already doing it but do it themselves based on a wrestling personality. i think that would be a good fresh way to Be upsetting

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

I really had high hopes at the time that the "gag" they were going for was that Billy and Chuck were just incredibly blind to the fact that people thought they were gay, because they were the best of friends who also weren't afraid to show affection to each other. Maybe not the best/most progressive angle, but certainly better than the terrible ending which turned out to be,"No no we were totally aware and actively pretending to be gay but we're totally straight and going into full on gay-panic mode now."

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


I'm positive somebody made a video version of this?

Davros1 posted:

Also, Booker tells the story that when it came to the booking of the WM match, he wasn't allowed to sit in on the discussion, but HHH was. HHH of course, defended his sitting in by saying "But I didn't say anything while they were booking it."

From memory, they had another feud some years later and Booker insisted he be allowed to sit in on the booking meetings... the end result was him getting beaten clean by HHH yet again.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Tonfa posted:

It's harrowing to remember they had to deal with repercussions when Bryan fake choked a guy but almost none of the awful poo poo in this tournament even slowed them down.

A sponsor complained. That is the ONLY time they ever "do the right thing", when they are directly threatened with immediate financial consequences.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

I know the plan was ALWAYS for Shawn Michaels to be Champion again, but God I would have loved it if Austin's first title win could have been against Bret Hart at Wrestlemania.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

To be fair, I recall people saying at the time of the Eddie's in Hell! thing that Rey was totally fine with it and thought Eddie would have enjoyed being part of a storyline even after he died. Then a few months ago I heard him on a podcast saying,"Yeah, it wasn't cool at all and I didn't like doing it, but WWE just kept pushing it on me."

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

KungFu Grip posted:

I made a gif of it long ago, but good luck finding it

So you didn't keep it? :smith:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

MassRafTer posted:

So you know how Jerusalem has no idea how twitter works (or did maybe he does now)

I figured out that you put your reply above the original statement for some reason. Also sometimes you put your reply over somebody else's reply of somebody else's original statement. And that something called a ratio is.... bad?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

TV Zombie posted:

Knowing how he was treated by the WWE, why would Rey go back?

A shitload of money?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Was it true that one of the reasons that Bret Hart mended bridges with WWE is because they were planning a hitpiece documentary on him in the same vein as The Self-Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


This is pretty great, haha :)

Obviously he changed his mind over time (that's okay!) plus once the weight of evidence of other horrible poo poo they've done becomes so apparent it really is hard to give them the benefit of the doubt even about things you once thought were at least understandable. I certainly felt at the time and for years afterwards that it wasn't appropriate for me to critique this company who knew Owen far better and more personally than I ever could or would, and that in the immediate shock they probably weren't thinking straight.

Unfortunately, there is a pretty clear and distinct pattern from WWE (and particularly Vince) that indicates that this was a more callous and calculated act or at least further evidence of a pretty skewed morality. Not least of all because Vince seems to apply a perverse logic of,"Whatever I would be happy to do or have done to me should be perfectly okay for me to do to everybody else as well" without ever considering the massive power imbalance of his own position of authority, power and wealth.

MRT's quote is still pretty hilarious in the context of this thread though :)

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Gonzo McFee posted:

it actively made it harder for them to wrestle and recover from injury.

You know what will help with recovery? Steroids! :vince:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Wasn’t it a similar deal with Goldberg where they did that video and the Suplex City tease without WWE having a clue?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

STAC Goat posted:

Yeah, I think people are missing that the Khan's laugh at McMahon money.

I mean, I have no idea if this is a real deal business investment or some distraction for a listless silver spooned heir. But the sugar daddy and money is all there if they want it.

Not that it will necessarily translate to acumen as a wrestling promoter (it rarely does) but hasn't Tony Khan actually operated businesses that did extremely well as opposed to just being given a vanity title/company so he has something to do with his days?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Oh in the throwback issue. I actually assumed it a fresh quote and wasn't surprised at all.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

He didn't even get to touch The Orb, what a lovely business deal.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

I guess at least old WWE wrestlers/officials aren't demanding a statue of Mel Philips gets put back up outside Titan Towers.... I mean, if you want to try REALLY hard to find some kind of silver lining in that horrible story. :smith:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

When the NY 64 started I figured Crown Jewel would run away with it. That Ringboy stuff really threw me for a loop, like others I'd heard only very loose descriptions of it in the past filtered through the idea that a lot of was beat-up as a homophobic attack on Pat Patterson. Learning more about what actually went down was pretty horrific.

I don't doubt that Benoit would rank highly in a "worst person" ranking, but I'm sure there are plenty of others who could easily be argued as being much worse.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Edit: This was in incredibly bad taste. I apologize.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

the escape goat posted:

name the tournament after Vince, duh

♪ It's the First Annual, Vincent. K McMahon, Award for..... Outstanding Achievement in! The Field of..... Shittiness! ♪

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

I think the Shawn Michaels of today would absolutely agree with you. He was a petty, egocentric piece of poo poo who got away with almost everything thanks to both being legitimately one of the best wrestlers of all time AND being in place when Vince McMahon/WWF was at its most vulnerable. Even today there's still a bit of a whiff of narcissism/self-aggrandizement about him and how "humble" he is but I doubt anybody would argue that he isn't a better person now than he was in the 90s.

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

mariooncrack posted:

He wants a bunch of people on social media to watch a video where they bash people who are on social media? :psyduck:

Bryan didn't upload this video!

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