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At the very least PoE 2 had some chufty AI you could manage, like you said. That at least enables you to set your party members to auto and only control your one guy, which feels alot more rewarding because you don't have to constantly micromanage.
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Then there's Tyranny where they "solved" the frenetic tempo of RTwP combat by giving all actions five minutes long cooldown.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:so do I get to throw my money at a gratuitous crowdfunding campaign yet No this has an actual publisher, they don't need your chump change. However, there will no doubt be a collector's edition with some overwrought garbage you can prominently display as a warning to any romantic partners you might attempt to bring home. Such as the statue of Eothas I have on my shelf.
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Dec 7, 2018 21:11
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God bless us a Gamebryo-style game but without the crappy engine or radiant-quests that clog your pip-boy.
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The PoE games are the only time I've ever really enjoyed RTwP. For some reason I loved micromanaging all the bullshit.
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Combat has never been Obsidian's strong suit, however given the history of CRPGs they simply have to hit "not actively terrible" to exceed expectations.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:No this has an actual publisher, they don't need your chump change. what if your romantic partner gets you that kinda of overought garbage. like a real replica of the Hounds helmet from GOT. anyway. id probably get the collectors editon of this. i rarely get them but i love my witcher 3 statue.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:what if your romantic partner gets you that kinda of overought garbage. like a real replica of the Hounds helmet from GOT. that's called true love and you should cherish it
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exquisite tea posted:Combat has never been Obsidian's strong suit, however given the history of CRPGs they simply have to hit "not actively terrible" to exceed expectations. this looks like its fallout 4 but not clunky and more shootery. id say borderlands, but borderlands have loving terrible shooting/combat in my opinion.
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I hope that the facial animations aren't finalized yet. Game looks good, but the faces look closer to Deus Ex HR than Witcher 3 on the sliding scale of quality.
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Dec 7, 2018 21:19
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Arcsquad12 posted:I hope that the facial animations aren't finalized yet. Game looks good, but the faces look closer to Deus Ex HR than Witcher 3 on the sliding scale of quality. it's absolutely finalized cause they don't have the budget to do that. they look fine, honestly kinda nostalgic and I like the art
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Dapper_Swindler posted:this looks like its fallout 4 but not clunky and more shootery. id say borderlands, but borderlands have loving terrible shooting/combat in my opinion. The central mechanic here seems to be a VATS like bullet time, that expends more meter when you take an action (like shooting).
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Dec 7, 2018 21:27
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I hope this game spearheads the Bring Back Medium Budget Games movement. It lookscool and fun as poo poo and has shot to the top of my must play in 2019 list. I don't mind the facial animation at all. gently caress, I hope it's worse in the final product just to piss off pedants to care way too much about that sort of thing.
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I don't know about this one. I liked most of Obsidian's other games, but the dialogue in that gameplay video is kind of rubbing me the wrong way. I feel like all of the lines are kind of silly and jokey but the humor doesn't quite land and just makes the conversations seem weirdly disjointed. I guess I'll just have to wait and see for now. Also, having low-intelligence dialogue be handled through occasionally having lines with [Dumb] next to them and all the other standard dialogue options still being there, some seemingly contradicting your supposed dumbness, feels kind of...half-assed? AFancyQuestionMark fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Dec 7, 2018 |
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:Also, having low-intelligence dialogue be handled through occasionally having lines with [Dumb] next to them and all the other standard dialogue options still being there, some seemingly contradicting your supposed dumbness, feels kind of...half-assed? Yes. Don't take this as a defense, but it was that way in the old Fallouts too.
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It's mostly just supposed to be funny. Like a gimmick run, the 'dumb' option is only there if you have 1 intelligence or w/e. It's just a gag.
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That seems like it would get old about an hour into a playthrough, especially if all of the other options are still there and nothing really changes.
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The low intelligence runs were never as deep / comprehensive as people make them out to be. They were always just flavor, and inconsistently applied for the most part. So i other words, yeah, something funny to laugh at, not a transformative experience that changes the game.AFancyQuestionMark posted:That seems like it would get old about an hour into a playthrough, especially if all of the other options are still there and nothing really changes. So exactly like low Int in FO/FO2
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:That seems like it would get old about an hour into a playthrough, especially if all of the other options are still there and nothing really changes. Then it's not for you don't worry about it
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i think fo2 at least only provided stupid lines if you were really stupid, but like.. its not any easier or harder to do that really. this way just lets people do both options if they have an idiot character
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Dapper_Swindler posted:this looks like its fallout 4 but not clunky and more shootery. id say borderlands, but borderlands have loving terrible shooting/combat in my opinion. Yeah, the shooting from the gameplay video seemed pretty competent especially when compared to Bethesda's garbage. No janky epileptic animations or ice skating/teleporting enemies, things react to getting hit, fov > 30º, etc
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Arcsquad12 posted:I hope that the facial animations aren't finalized yet. Game looks good, but the faces look closer to Deus Ex HR than Witcher 3 on the sliding scale of quality. As long as they're not super jittery like HR was, I won't mind.
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:I hope this game spearheads the Bring Back Medium Budget Games movement. It lookscool and fun as poo poo and has shot to the top of my must play in 2019 list. I don't mind the facial animation at all. gently caress, I hope it's worse in the final product just to piss off pedants to care way too much about that sort of thing. i mean the facial animations look fine, they look like a better version of fallout new vegas and its still in alpha and i am sure with the positive reception, 2k will dump even more money into it.
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Didn't really enjoy the humor in the trailer but I can deal with that. Combat and gunplay look bad in the trailer and the 15 min gameplay video. Maybe I'm just jaded, but I don't feel like giving them a pass for mediocre combat like I did with New Vegas and Alpha Protocol. It's 2018, you can make RPGs that are actually fun to play and it doesn't look like one. I guess I'll be very cautiously optimistic about this one.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:that's called true love and you should cherish it indeed. only thing that sucks, is she isn't into sci-fi, just fantasy stuff and only select fantasy stuff.
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Eraflure posted:Didn't really enjoy the humor in the trailer but I can deal with that. I'm generally curious what sort of gunplay you expect? I'm not gonna make excuses for the game, I haven't played it or w/e so who loving knows, but I don't really know what people want from a shooter game like this? I think asking for a game with as much depth to the shooting as a dedicated shooter like say Doom or Titanfall 2 is asking alot when the shooting is only a portion of the gameplay. So I'm just wondering what it is that you want? Like explicitly.
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:That seems like it would get old about an hour into a playthrough, especially if all of the other options are still there and nothing really changes. Spoken like someone who never played as a Malkavian in VTMB. 
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Agent355 posted:I'm generally curious what sort of gunplay you expect? I'm not gonna make excuses for the game, I haven't played it or w/e so who loving knows, but I don't really know what people want from a shooter game like this? Odds are something like Cyberpunk is going to set the new standard for RPG shooters going forward, but that probably isn't showing up until a year after this releases.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:God bless us a Gamebryo-style game but without the crappy engine or radiant-quests that clog your pip-boy. There doesn't seem to be 1000 objects in every house that you can pick up, roleplaying a magpie, so it's not really Gamebryo-style.
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ymgve posted:There doesn't seem to be 1000 objects in every house that you can pick up, roleplaying a magpie, so it's not really Gamebryo-style. If anything, the brief glimpse of picking stuff up made me think of Prey. (The similar typeface probably helps)
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ok so the team making this has really good credentials, how do I talk myself down from getting too hyped over this i've been hurt before from Spore and Supreme Commander 
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Wicked Them Beats posted:Odds are something like Cyberpunk is going to set the new standard for RPG shooters going forward, but that probably isn't showing up until a year after this releases. Comparing any rpg to CDPR right now is rather pointless when their last major release set the benchmark for modern RPGs and their next big release looks like it's going for a whole other level with regards to presentation and polish.
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buglord posted:ok so the team making this has really good credentials, how do I talk myself down from getting too hyped over this Remember all the past Obsidian / Troika games were flawed. We like to talk about how they got screwed by Valve/ Bethesda contractual clauses, but the undeniable fact is that they have a track record of publishing flawed games regardless of how constrained they are by licensed technology.
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buglord posted:ok so the team making this has really good credentials, how do I talk myself down from getting too hyped over this Let the hype wash over you, fulfill you, sustain you. If the game is not good deal with that then, now is the time for hype.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Comparing any rpg to CDPR right now is rather pointless when their last major release set the benchmark for modern RPGs and their next big release looks like it's going for a whole other level with regards to presentation and polish. It set the benchmark for terrible combat? Because goddamn the Witcher 3 has some jank rear end combat.
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this looks about as poo poo and jank as new vegas and it doesn't have the fallout name so it's gonna get lots of 6/10s but secretly be game of the year
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steinrokkan posted:Remember all the past Obsidian / Troika games were flawed. We like to talk about how they got screwed by Valve/ Bethesda contractual clauses, but the undeniable fact is that they have a track record of publishing flawed games regardless of how constrained they are by licensed technology. welp
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That sure is a hot take. It has the best combat of all the action RPGs except for the annoying Souls games, which some people like for some reasons.
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steinrokkan posted:That sure is a hot take. There are like a dozen other ARPGs with way better combat beyond the souls games. Nioh, Metal Gear Revengeance, Horizon, God of War, Spider-Man, Bloodborne, the Arkham games... It's firmly down in Skyrim level poo poo territory. Zore fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Dec 7, 2018 |
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