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fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

hands off the e1505, miss

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fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
os x is malware, so uninstall it.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

okay this is where you look past the tweet and at the paper and presentation not involving dragos

don't post tweets if you don't want people to react to the tweet

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Pile Of Garbage posted:

i don't see how i'm an idiot for calling poo poo what it is: poo poo. upnp is straight garbage, i accept that it has been adopted and exists and that the majority of problems are due to lovely implementation but that aside it's dumb trash!

ok steve gibson

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
Ipv6 owns

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

rjmccall posted:

alright, straight white dude here to explain everything and render judgement, be warned

in one corner of this con they apparently put up an unmonitored whiteboard for people to write down things that help them cope with stress. this is the sort of thing that seems like a really good idea, because it's fun and it makes people feel engaged and maybe starts conversations around it, but actually it's maybe not a great idea because especially for this topic because it might go places you don't really want it to go, like happened here, and you look like an idiot

so a couple different people write down "weed", which is presumably an honest answer, but which also makes people laugh and want to put up their own funny answers. now somebody else puts up "boobies", which in their mind is funny and in keeping, but actually is unprofessional and rude but because it's sexualizing in a way that's predictably and understandably going to make some women really uncomfortable. and then another person puts down "boobies", and to put their own own twist on it they (or maybe a third person?) add "#metoo"

okay so the best possible spin on this is that they're not trying to make a statement, just trying to say "same" in a funny way by making a reference to something they vaguely remember hearing about. now even that is messed up; anyone who paid enough attention to the reporting around "#metoo" to remember it really should've realized that it is not a super funny topic that they should be making random "wacky" references to on a whiteboard about ways to relieve stress. even if this is somehow an honest mistake, it's also a revealing mistake. and that's the best spin; it's not at all crazy to think this is some intentional misogynist troll, because that happens, it is a real thing

so someone points it out to the con staff, and they don't seem like they're doing anything about it, and so that person escalates, and the staff eventually write huffy posts on social media about the terrible attendee who yelled at them for hours. because apparently they knew the guy who wrote "#metoo" and he's a big deal in their little world and they didn't want to piss him off by asking him to make amends or even explain himself. and having to listen to this wholly justified criticism of their actions is such a headache that they're literally going to shut down their con rather than deal with it anymore. which is both lovely and hilariously weak

im glad you wrote this because everything between the initial tweet and the announcement they're going to not have a con anymore was a mess of barely readable tweet arguments that made it really hard to follow what happened when with who tbh

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:



to bring this back to secfuckup smart meters were pushed well before the tech was ready to hit milestones on carbon neutral targets. enjoy having smets1 devices in houses for decades as waiting a year wasn't politically viable

and this is bad because?

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

a more thorough analysis: http://watt-logic.com/2018/06/13/smets2/

take note of gb-specific zigbee

i'm really not following this, especially as the main "problem" seems to be that they make it inconvenient to use the pointless ~free market~ electricity bit as much as you like? there appear to be fairly identical security issues between the two standards based on that article

also it seems like the new standard wasn't available until very recently while the old one was being installed from 2012? and surely there was some manner of smart meters in use in the uk since well before that too, as other countries had their programs start in the 90s and early 2000s

generally seems like a case of "the old version isn't as good" which is the way things usually tend to go

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Shame Boy posted:

how the hell are they a 501c3 :psyduck:

why wouldn't they be? you have a preferred organization style that aint 501c3 or something?

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Shame Boy posted:

they're basically a meetup group, other than the one charity raffle that went to a completely different charity anyway i'm not really sure why they need to be any kind of organization at all

cuz you want to have central management of the funds raised, and any spending or donation once the event is done? and that requires a simple organization if you're not just going to hand the money to some guy and cross your fingers he won't run off with it?

given what they were intending to do and the small scale of the operation, 501(c)3 organization is pretty much perfect for their purposes

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Shame Boy posted:

i mean it's kinda expensive and a pain in the rear end to set up and establish that you're entitled to tax-exempt status, i'm in the process of doing it myself and it's not something i would really want to do for a $2000 dildo raffle

what if you planned to continue doing $2000 dildo raffles every year for decades on end though

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

haveblue posted:



apple doesn't make money from selling your info and doesn't need to. the others do

LOL that you believe this

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Max Facetime posted:

well Apple is a publicly traded company and files their financials so there’s no reason for apathetic doubt: you can just check

yep and you can just check that they in fact rely on making monetary value off your personal data

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

salted hash browns posted:

Apple being complicit in breaking encryption for an oppressive regime is still worse IMO.

I’m not saying FB is without blame but Jesus Apple just loving gave it all up to sell iPhones in PRC without blinking.

lol that you believe Apple had something to give up

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
apple sucks lol

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

"Every tap, button push and keyboard entry is recorded — effectively screenshotted — and sent back to the app developers."

so we're just using screenshot to mean every form of recording now???

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Diva Cupcake posted:

even keeping 20 years of data seems like a gross ediscovery liability.

did them a favor

the gently caress is this nonsense

people are paying you to hold onto their email however long they want it, it's not the email host's responsibility to act like everyone is a crimed up business account

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

apseudonym posted:

That went well

It did

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
printers are portals between the computer realm and the flesh realm, of course the diagrams for how they work are horrific sigils and they constantly break

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

for context in your example there goes all data protections GDPR offer you, for the low low cost of you paying for it

this is nonsense

a European citizen can still sue over their real data being misused, and it's not like not using the VPN would make them be all "wow we're going to give you extra protection"

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

good luck trying to get someone to argue with you over implicit vs explicit protections

so you admit your post was invalid, great

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

jit bull transpile posted:

gauge is one of those words where a bunch of 19th century prescriptivists added silent letters to make it look vaguely Latin. it was a big thing, trying to make English look like a romance language instead of a mongrel of German and British tongues.

lol dipshit there's way more french in then celtic

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

The_Franz posted:

'


english is still the only language where the disconnect between spelling and pronunciation is big enough that spelling contests are a thing


french is absolutely full of spellings with no connection to how the words are pronounced within the past 600 years and copious dead letters, they're just slightly more consistent in how it happens and the language authority pretends as many loanwords as possible aren't real words

if you dropped out most of the loanwords in english you'd end about the same

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
english spelling didn't finish out to the point where a current dictionary would match up the spellings until basically the 18th century, ancient spelling almost doesn't apply at all in english.

nearly all long term english words have A spelling that we use now and could also be found as much as 1000 years ago, but between that time and now you would have only found said spelling in certain specific regions or contexts as opposed to the post 1750 or so era of semi-unified spelling (oceanic differences notwithstanding, though ultimately american spellings tend to be longer standing)

now the constellation of different spellings from about 4 centuries ago say, thats stuff that tends to have variations that are still similar enough to modern that it aint hard to figure 'em out cuz they'll often be common ways to misspell now. and the general grammar rules are already present as we'd use them so that helps a lot too

fishmech fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Feb 25, 2019

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

you would have absolutely no trouble reading a 400 year old text, and most of the spelling would be familiar.

reading chaucer in the original english would be completely impossible.

hmm you seem to be quite stupid today. here is what i mean by the selling not being standardized to modern versions yet, but the grammar being appropriate:

Forasmuch as the good education of children is of singular behoof and benefit to any Common-wealth; and whereas many parents & masters are too indulgent and negligent of their duty in that kind. It is therfore ordered that the Select men of every town, in the severall precincts and quarters where they dwell, shall have a vigilant eye over their brethren & neighbours, to see, first that none of them shall suffer so much barbarism in any of their families as not to indeavour to teach by themselves or others, their children & apprentices so much learning as may enable them perfectly to read the English tongue, & knowledge of the Capital Lawes: upon penaltie of twentie shillings for each neglect therin. Also that all masters of families do once a week (at the least) catechize their children and servants in the grounds & principles of Religion, & if any be unable to do so much: that then at the least they procure such children or apprentices to learn some short orthodox catechism without book, that they may be able to answer unto the questions that shall be propounded to them out of such catechism by their parents or masters or any of the Select men when they shall call them to a tryall of what they have learned of this kind. And further that all parents and masters do breed & bring up their children & apprentices in some honest lawful calling, labour or employment, either in husbandry, or some other trade profitable for themselves, and the Common-wealth if they will not or cannot train them up in learning to fit them for higher employments. And if any of the Select men after admonition by them given to such masters of families shall find them still negligent of their duty in the particulars aforementioned, whereby children and servants become rude, stubborn & unruly; the said Select men with the help of two Magistrates, or the next County court for that Shire, shall take such children or apprentices from them & place them with some masters for years (boyes till they come to twenty one, and girls eighteen years of age compleat) which will more strictly look unto, and force them to submit unto government according to the rules of this order, if by fair means and former instructions they will not be drawn into it.

-Massachusetts School Law of 1642

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

perfectly clear, with highly regular spelling, over 99% of which is still valid today

are you illiterate?

what the gently caress are you smoking to not understand what i said? why do you keep talking about entirely unrelated things?

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
yes ZDR already did a pretty major moving of the whole forum database onto a much more modern system which also makes it easier to run backups, as part of the prerequisite work for getting stuff completely off the old physical boxes.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Volmarias posted:

The 5x only just stopped getting security updates at the end of 2018, after launching in 2015. It's not iPhone levels of support but it's the best you'll get for Android, for now.

i mean, all 5 people left with a nexus 5x that hasn't selfdestructed via heat yet

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

Those used to reset whenever you disconnected the battery.

yeah then they got fixed

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Shame Boy posted:

goodwill is One Of The Bad Ones fyi

nah its not

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
there's a whole big issue where if you're declared disabled enough you can have all sorts of vital stuff made free for you, which are things you have pretty much no hope of affording on your own outside of leaping to a 6 figgie job somehow. but if you make more than a very tiny amount a month you no longer qualify for any assistance with it unless your resident state chooses to allow for it, which most don't. and even then it's often woefully inadequate unless you can make it into a very well paying job quickly. lowered disability pay rates have been enshrined federally to cover having people work legally while having disabilities and receiving care for it, but are also supposed to be somewhat limited in use. also, individual employers doing this are meant to be inspected and verified on a regular basis and to be booted off this allowance if they take advantage of the employees too much.


there's also the separate thing that there are over 160 regional goodwill "franchise" areas that run the stores and services in their area. over the past few years, approximately 70 were still using any workers that got paid wages below regular minimum, and 13 of them were found to be violating the standards enough that the department of labor was going to strip their wage waivers if they didn't shape up.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

my bitter bi rival posted:

steve gibson is cool.


going to check this out tonight neat


edit hmm windows only i hate steve gibson now.

its designed to run fully under WINE on other oses

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

Censorship is fascist. gently caress off Fascist.

says the fascist, lmao


goddamnedtwisto posted:

would "days of WINE and oses" be a bit too much of a tryhard username?

nahh

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

you’re a cop, lmbo

says the member of the cop association, lmao

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

rjmccall posted:

i think it was a bitcoin wallet generator

smart contracts can’t do web requests (or anything else that depends directly on external information sources)

several different bitcoin and other cryptocurrency services all used the same (non-https connection) page/site for getting info for a random seed, and all of them broke when the site went https only

that they were using said site and thus using consistent seeds after that point was revealed at different times, typically after someone'd already used it to rob said services. but only the ~smart contract~ built services had it unfixable due to the contract.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Shame Boy posted:

why would you use a stolen car for doing crimes, wouldn't you get immediately flagged whenever anyone ran the plates? or are they just trying to do crimes before the cars are reported stolen?

how often do you think people are "running the plates" on regular cars in traffic?

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Shame Boy posted:

oh right not everyone is from florida, here that happens constantly. especially at night, cops will follow you around pretty close for a few minutes and you can see them typing stuff in to their laptop, then they'll pass you and do it to the next guy, over and over moving up the line. i talked to a retired cop from new york city once who moved down here and he said that's probably what they're doing and that florida cops "gently caress with you endlessly like that, i can't believe how different it is down here"


surely you are smart enough to understand that this means they aren't touching or checking the vast majority of the cars on the road at any one time, much less the few hours between stealing the car specifically do another crime and then ditching it?


keep in mind part of the benefit of hacking this app to steal the cars is that the car also won't have any obvious damage from more "traditional" methods of stealing a car, so it'll be less visible as a target to the cops

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Cerv posted:

any particular reason they don’t use cameras & automatic number plate recognition?

those systems mostly matter for billing tolls or for proof of where a car was sighted after the fact.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Shame Boy posted:

so to answer my question, "yes they try to do the crime quickly"

well its not like there's much point to stealing your getaway car months in advance or anything


your hodgepodge of donutchuggers randomly picking cars to follow still ain't going to be an effective dragnet against stolen vehicles

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fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Celexi posted:

I don't want to know what weird place you live in that police follow you to check plates at night because that would be terrifying.

It's Florida

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