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Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

McNally posted:

Aren't gas prices usually lower in the winter anyway?

They are, but the price of oil has dropped +30% since October due to global oversupply and recession fears causing weak demand.

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Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

Soulex posted:

Asterisk: Not from a shithole country

Come on now, some of those shithole countries have potential recruits who already have 5-10 years of combat experience and can't even drink yet, from a recruiting standpoint its the best of both worlds.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

Weren't a few Pentagon goons saying there were a bunch of mid to senior folks talking about punching out with Mattis?

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

Goddamn little dog sneakers for the parquet is the best.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

House can't get Trump's tax returns if the IRS isn't open :tapshead:

Fake edit - also lol Google auto suggests 'tax returns' the AI is already strapped in for 2019

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.


But did they ask the ghosts of Andrew Jackson and John Tyler? :colbert:

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

https://mobile.twitter.com/briantashman/status/1082454094319636480

Sometimes the quiet bit is a bullhorn.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

As a sign of next two years, seeing pro-wall 'campaign' ads on CNN 'paid for by Donald Trump for President'. Trump's already getting his 2020 campaign spun up to prime the pump for his evening address, gonna be great watching him us his campaign as a combination slush fund/agitprop mouthpiece for the next two years.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

Lol at the prominent Army Navy coin on his rack.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.


He always always tries to pass the buck and blame someone else when his shot schemes fail.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

Gabbard's also a poo poo person on LGBTQ matters

https://twitter.com/ParkerMolloy/status/1083895591254532096

https://twitter.com/ParkerMolloy/status/1083898354831101952

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

If any of these potential candidates can't survive the in-fighting and stake out a credible case for why they should lead the Party then they're definitely not going to be able to stand up what Trump and the GOP dish out. There should be no free passes, especially since (with a half-exception for prior-rans like Bernie) none of the 2020 candidates have stood up a campaign organization and published their policies and positions for review and debate. There are still fundamental issues like healthcare, climate change, immigration, etc that the Dems need to come to grips with and should be just as important as simply voting Trump out.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

orange juche posted:

Dealing with 4 years more years of hair furor is not the best time for an ideological purity argument. Trump's admin is actively hostile to any progressive ideas, and he's a bigly moron who will absolutely destroy this country if he is given 4 more years. However the Democratic primaries shake out, Democrats cannot afford to stay home because they got their feefees hurt that their pet candidate did not make it. They need to get out, register to vote, and then actually do so.

If they're going to have a real chance at beating Trump then they're going to have to unite and motivate the party to go vote in Nov, and that's going to have to be a combination of both policy and charisma. Can't forget that record numbers of Republicans came out in the mid-terms, and Trump will likely be able to stir up his base to get to the polls in 2020 as well. Whoever ends up getting it is going to have to compromise and horse trade, but that's politics. Right now we've barely got a couple exploratory committees announced, all the current wailing and gnashing of teeth is white noise in the circle of hell that is political twitter/blogs/editorial pages. I'm not going to sweat any of it until the general primary-voting public starts to pay attention which is still months off in the future.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

1) Trump 'caters' fast food at the White House and can't even be bothered to stock some Chick-fil-a for the Evangelical/Southern crowd lol

2) How much you wanna bet some random synapse firing made Trump remember the Warriors and Browns standing him up and he decided to go extra cheap 'just in case'.

3) At some point someone had to decide whether to present the food boxed or unboxed and decided to preserve a tiny shred of dignity and leave the limp soggy burgers unseen.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

M_Gargantua posted:

Donald just doesn't know

Always a safe bet

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

Tryzzub posted:

teddy roosevelt would at least have the stones to ride out to joshua tree and shoot people

"Is the Army still funded? Good. Tell them to shoot on sight."

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.


Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

As soon as they got out of there Dabo Swinney prob threatened to hamstring the first guy who gives a comment to the press.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

In the event that the partial shutdown remains the status quo, the biggest thing down the road that might force Trump and/or McConnell's hand is tax season - for as much as the GOP likes to bitch about taxes, a lot of their voters are going to be pissed when they don't get their tax rebate checks in the mail.

The only reason why Trump and McConnell are getting away with keeping the government closed so far is because the so-called 'important' bits - defense and entitlements - were fully funded earlier in the year. Even if we manage to get everything back open this year, I don't know why the Dems would allow piecemeal funding bills next year since Trump will just pick the ones he likes and hold the rest hostage for more poo poo.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

Acebuckeye13 posted:

how are they all this dumb

To own the libs.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

facialimpediment posted:

Yeah, this thing is presser bullshit.

https://twitter.com/FrankSharry/status/1086738430669873152

The new development is that McConnell is going to put the bullshit bill on the floor, when he's constantly claimed he won't until there's a Pelosi/Schumer/Trump deal. I'm curious if it breaches 50 in the Senate, it won't get 60, so the shutdown continues.

https://twitter.com/SteveKingIA/status/1086701499982450688

https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1086734750578929664

Looks like the poison pills are having the desired effect and getting the MAGA crowd out to scream *NO AMNESTY* on Fox so that Trump will be even less likely to bend further and make an actual real concession on DACA later on.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

FAUXTON posted:

What's worse is that it was drat near 60° in Omaha like 2 weeks ago.

I was out there during that and was thanking God the entire time cause I was expecting it to be like this lmao

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.


Exactly why that kid 'apologized' through a PR firm, politics and media have become interchangeable and it's getting to the point that having a neighbor complain about your obnoxious yard signs is all it takes to get on Fox and Friends and a Presidential tweet.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

DoktorLoken posted:

I think it's reasonable to think that Russian bots/troll farms pushed this.

Saw a Moony Times article that claimed there was a Brazilian pretending to be an American tweeting some of the original video material but :shrug:

It worries me a bit how the bot/troll farms are sinking into the zeitgeist since half the time they're just picking up on regular news stories and spamming them out, either to help establish their 'legitimacy' or because they fit with whatever narrative they're attached to. A story ends up getting discounted as 'fake news' after a bunch of twitter bots help propel it into the wider public discourse, even if the story itself is still in and of itself completely factual. And unlike with liberal/conservative media divide, accusations of secretly being troll farm propaganda is something that's can be used to cut within party lines like with some of the BLM/BDS stuff among the Liberals and the Left. It feels like it's harder and harder to even come to an agreement on factual events, much less what opinions people might have about them.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

https://twitter.com/Potbelly/status/1085749464961347586

:same:

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

Throw in some Rogue Squadron there :colbert:

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1088759936207724545

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

From the sounds of it the whole thing was as dumb as you'd expect.

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1088763881617608704

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

orange juche posted:

There are good companies out there but there's plenty that will gently caress their employees over while laughing to the bank as well.

That your company is paying out money to people who are working when they're in fact not getting paid themselves is really good, even if it's bad for the company's financials.

It's probably because we're at full employment and companies realize they can't (fully) gently caress over (some) employees when they can walk to another job without (too much) trouble. I sure didn't see any offers to carry over folks during the 2013 shutdown, it was all use your PTO or go in the hole because they knew they could screw folks without consequence.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

DoktorLoken posted:

Stealing this from c-spam but I'm 50/50 on this

e: also from c-spam:

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1089002543831605248?s=20

:thunk:

quote:

The documents include a voluminous archive of material hacked from Russia’s Ministry of Internal Affairs that WikiLeaks had declined to publish in 2016, telling Foreign Policy magazine the next year that it “rejects all submissions that it cannot verify” or that it finds “insignificant.”

Goddamn lol

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.


Every one of those shots is amazing in its own special way

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

Speaking of 2020 candidates, this Howard Schultz guy sure sounds like a winner

https://twitter.com/GuyEndoreKaiser/status/1089775251683078144

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Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

There's also Julian Castro, who's pretty much a blank slate at this point since his claims to fame are Mayor of San Antonio and HUD Secretary under Obama. On the plus side, he offers the chance for identical twin hijinks with his brother US Rep Joaquin Castro.

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