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Hat Thoughts posted:The steaks have never been higher you're thinking of the sequel to Sausage Party, not Avengers.
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DeimosRising posted:To recreate this with RDJ that girl gonna have to be like, 4’6” just get Marsai Martin now and hope she doesn't grow any more.
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Jan 10, 2019 08:23
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i mean to be fair the effects work in the Transformers movies is like, the cream of the crop
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Apr 3, 2019 14:04
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Nail Rat posted:After thinking on it a bit, while there's a lot wrong with Infinity War, what really, really sucked was how they undid Thor: Ragnarok, which is one of the very best MCU films (I mean that's not a high bar we all know, but still). i know you shared this picture to be like "man look what we're missing" but boy that's a really awkward looking shot
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Apr 6, 2019 18:43
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Bedshaped posted:Well you're wrong about that specific shot. It's not only not a bad shot, it's a very good shot. the staging is fine, it just clearly looks like 6 people standing in front of a flat green screen background, who may or may not have been in the room at the same time. generally when you're making a blockbuster you want to avoid looking like that, even if it's how most blockbusters are made
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Apr 7, 2019 18:56
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teagone posted:Being informed of different perspectives is the whole point of discourse. it should be noted that, when interviewed for the director position for Black Widow, Lucrecia Martel was flat out told that she wouldn't have to worry about the action sequences. Marvel has guys in-house for that, and everything else is the realm of the actual director (which is a lot more about what they get out of actors, which is probably why the Russo's are successful, because they're good at eliciting performances, if not visual direction)
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Apr 11, 2019 23:09
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alright, time for a distraction from the next two weeks or so: Avengers Endgame Prediction Game Make a prediction, see if you have a better idea of how MCU movies work than the rest of this forum What day will we get a real honest to god ending leak? Will Cap die? Will Tony die? What other hero(s) will die? Do the characters that died in Infinity War who didn't disintegrate come back (Loki, Gamora, etc)? What heroes will get hosed and not show up/get one token scene and that's it? Who is the most obscure cameo from another MCU movie? Who gets the final blow on Thanos? Will future MCU movie characters be revealed? Will there be a Captain America at the end of Endgame, and who will it be? What's the final Rotten Tomatoes score? How much does it make opening weekend?
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Apr 14, 2019 23:01
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nothing kills your desire to watch leaked footage like the only video available having some douchebag talking over it and pausing every 10 seconds to make dumb jokes i'll just see it next week
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Apr 16, 2019 05:14
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there's also an entire reddit that is devoted to Marvel spoilers that has a pretty good description of what it was at least i think so, like i said the only video i could find of the footage took 10 minutes to show 4 minutes of movie and the other 6 minutes was filled with The Most Annoying Man In The World describing what just happened as if none of the people watching a video have eyes or brains so what i read could just be bullshit
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Apr 16, 2019 19:00
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Snowman_McK posted:What's weird is that, of the people I know who are planning to see it and are excited to do so, none of them has actually said that the movie is going to be good. It's loving weird. It's purely anecdotal, but still. the funny thing is that if TLJ hadn't been so... polarizing, the last Star Wars movie (7 months from now) would probably be coasting on the same sort of cultural momentum. I suspect Lion King is kind of the same. The idea of them is so positive, and they're all payoffs to years of media consumption, that the actual film qualities don't matter as much. Disney's 2019 is just the world's largest money shot
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Apr 20, 2019 03:14
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Guy A. Person posted:I'm going to go and have fun but it won't even be the best movie of April 2019 it is not even going to be the best entry into a long-running media series featuring action, quips and goofy costumes that features a plot centered around time travel that comes out that week
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Apr 21, 2019 05:18
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I'm actually looking forward to it hearing that it's 3 hours long and has Return of the King level ending fatigue, I've seen so many blockbusters lately get hacked to pieces for the sake of fitting an arbitrary measure that I could go for something more self-indulgent. you want an indulgent 3 hour comic book film, then have I got the movie for you. It's called "Batman Versus Superman: The Dawn Of Justice: The Ultimate Cut"
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Apr 21, 2019 08:53
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just totally spoiled myself, and... huh. ok.they probably feel OK doing Natasha dirty because they know a movie is coming but man what a lame way to go. Ditto with basically resetting Peter/Gamora's relationship.
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Apr 23, 2019 19:11
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R. Guyovich posted:since captain america is the one who returns the stones i'm wondering how the conversation with soul stone guardian red skull would go toss it back down the hole and pray that Nat gets spit back up.
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Apr 24, 2019 23:21
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Mameluke posted:People...rewatch Marvel movies? These things are like two-hour CSIs for kids. there are entire cable channels devoted to playing and replaying nothing but CSI, Law and Order, and various other procedurals so your dumb insult doesn't even make sense
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Apr 25, 2019 03:03
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I really kinda dug most of it. Biggest downside: I think the end battle was a mess, which is a given because they have 30 characters to give little moments to, so they have to have a mass of generic CGI monsters to defeat. I think the whole battle of armies things was stupid and it was stupid when they did it in Infinity War too. Just give us heroes and villains, I don't need hundreds of people filling the screen with random poo poo while it's happening. I really did like a lot of the character moments though. The first 2/3 of the movie have lots of little wonderful bits, even though two of the three timelines they initially visit take place during two of my least favorite MCU movies. Thor's crisis was interesting and a nice extension of the last couple movies, RDJ had the most to do in the movie and he used every second he had to really wring every last bit of emotion out of Tony Stark. I was less impressed by Hulk, Widow and Hawkeye (the scene in Tokyo felt like bargain basement John Wick), but honestly the biggest surprise for me was Nebula. I remember coming out of the very first Guardians of the Galaxy movie thinking that Karen Gillian couldn't act and quite frankly she might have been the second best performer in Endgame. Even moments that aren't necessarily about her allowed for you to really see her growth, and it helps that she got to play a super-evil version of the same character to really hammer it home. As for the future of the MCU... It doesn't look all that different honestly. They might deal with the fallout of 50% of the universe coming back after being disappeared for 5 years, but I don't expect too deep a dive into that dynamic. *Talking about it with others after the movie, I have no idea what the gently caress Far From Home is gonna look like, or if they're gonna address the fact that all of Peter's classmates are still his age *Black Panther 2 and Captain Marvel 2 will likely have little other fallout from this and will look pretty much the same regardless, ditto Doctor Strange 2 (which honestly do we really need that one?) *Folding Thor into the Guardians is a really fun dynamic but it's taking 2 of their best series from the franchise and making them 1, which seems like a poor use of resources. Also I super-duper hate resetting the Peter/Gamora relationship, the last thing we need is another movie of what we got from Guardians 1/2. *As for those who haven't been guaranteed a movie, we're apparently getting more Scarlet Witch and Hawkeye in TV format (plus Loki, who we did see escape post-Battle of New York in an alternate dimension with the Tesseract...), and I could see them actually deal with the fallout of this whole thing in those since they'll have a lot of time to fill with story ideas *my guess is that we see a Captain Falcon and Bucky movie soonish, especially since that would probably be lower budget than the big space movies they have on the horizon. *Black Widow is dead obviously, but they were talking about making a prequel with her anyways so she's likely going to stay dead. *Hulk is the biggest question mark for me. It would have made a lot more sense to send him with the Guardians than Thor, given they can't actually make a Hulk movie, but my guess is he'll be the connective tissue of the next phase of things, popping up in different movies for little bits of time.
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Apr 25, 2019 10:24
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I will say that while I definitely didn’t think of it in the moment (because I’m not really a plothole-focused guy), including two totally separate all-powerful plot devices is really tempting fate with the “wait why didn’t they just...” crowd. I think it’s help slightly by having “you can’t change the past, just visit and bring stuff back” as the rule for time travel but it does sorta make you wonder, especially once Hank Pym is back and you have a fairly limitless supply of Pym Particles.
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Apr 25, 2019 18:00
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Nope! The quantum machine can't change "the natural laws", but the green gem can. That's what the whole Dr. Strange movie was about. yeah but how powerful is that stone in Strange's movie? I honestly don't remember.
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Apr 25, 2019 18:47
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Well, in the previous Avengers film, it let him create a time loop that goes on for roughly 80 million years. 14 million resets. does he actually *live* all of those or does he just *see* them? I was under the impression that he just was able to view them
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Apr 25, 2019 18:58
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Presumably the former; in his own movie he creates a time loop that's theoretically infinite. that's true!
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Apr 25, 2019 19:19
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So hypothetically, with the way that time travel works in this movie, does it mean that there's like, an infinite amount of alternate realities? Is it like Spiderverse? There's now potentially a Loki running around somewhere, but hypothetically couldn't anyone with access to the time stone also dimension jump? I feel like there's a lot of potential with the time travel stuff
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Apr 25, 2019 19:26
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Grouchio posted:Strange, I thought that (based on leaks I read) that Captain Marvel got axed (then revived later), that Thor revived Loki and gave him the ok to rule Asgard, that Rocket now leads the Guardians and that Black Widow leads the Avengers. Guess not. Is Professor Hulk still a thing? Also does this mean that Thor leads the Guardians!? all of this is lies
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Apr 25, 2019 19:26
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teagone posted:Do remember though, those aren't the past versions of Loki or Gamora from the main MCU timeline (MCU-A). They are from an alternate universe (MCU-B); a "branch" split off from the main timeline. i mean technically they're probably 2 separate dimensions, since the whole "you can't change the past" thing means that they're all going to points from the past in the normal dimension and basically creating another split-off point
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Apr 25, 2019 19:29
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Grouchio posted:I really thought that Professor Hulk was a thing. oh yeah, that is. everything else in that post was BS though, it was separated from the things that were total bs so I excluded it for whatever reason
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Apr 25, 2019 19:30
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LesterGroans posted:It's possible that he jumped back to the original timeline after Peggy died. but he didn't jump. He was just sitting there. Which implies that he just lived a normal life in the same universe that everything else happened in, which flies in the face of all of the stuff they laid out. They could have fixed this by just having him come back as an old man through the time machine but they wanted the reveal of Cap just chilling on the bench, which is a funny joke. i know this isn't Primer and I shouldn't be bother by this. SuperMechagodzilla posted:*Peggy’s upside-down in the fishbowl* You're totally removing any possibility of Peggy having any agency in this situation, kind of unfairly. It's totally reasonable that Cap showed up and explained to her exactly what was going on instead of your assumption that he just tricked her into thinking that he was the same Cap from the universe he showed up in. In this case, he's not loving over Peggy (it stands to reason that two people who fell in love would probably have similar feelings about alternate reality versions), but it does make me wonder what happens to the Cap in that universe, but they totally gloss over that by just breaking the rules and making a causal loop after an entire movie of time travel that specifically does *not* cause a loop. It's not a character flaw, it's a plot logic flaw. DC Murderverse fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Apr 25, 2019 |
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brawleh posted:This just arrives at the same point of characterisation though, just that both view the other as objects that are entirely interchangeable - it’s also assumes that Peggy B doesn’t ask how he got there, where either Cap A lies about where Cap B is and/or neither of them give a poo poo about him. yeah you're pretty much right about this. the question so what happens to Frozen-Cap in the universe our Cap jumps to may get a lot of attention once people start talking about this movie. edit: especially because we literally have an example of someone killing their past self without it affecting them temporally, so none of the usual rules apply.
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Apr 25, 2019 21:20
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As Nero Danced posted:I just realized something about what Steve did: They did the same thing on episode of Futurama. Farnsworth built a time machine that can only go forwards, but the universe was replaced with an identical univerde when the first one died out. The Leela that Fry ended up with never actually knew him. It’s different because this still creates a loop, so there’s no “what happened to the other Fry” question.
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Apr 25, 2019 22:06
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MacheteZombie posted:Iirc, when they land in the last universe its moved like 10 feet lower and their ship crushes bender, fry, n the professor that havent left yet Thus closing the loop, I guess?
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Apr 25, 2019 22:17
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Grouchio posted:This is what timeline diagrams are for. Imagine four Captain Americas on the edge of a cliff. Say a direct copy of the Captain America nearest the cliff is sent to the back of the line of Captain Americas and takes the place of the first Captain America. The formerly first Captain America becomes the second, the second becomes the third, and the fourth falls off the cliff. Time works the same way.
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Apr 25, 2019 22:36
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Alchenar posted:Yeah you are right. I really want to know, of everyone in the big long credit sequence, who got the least screen time. My guess is Michelle Pfiffer, because I think she was present only at the funeral, and I think everyone else at the funeral either had another scene (Michael Douglas), was in the big battle at the end (Batista) , or wasn't in the main cast credits (teenager from Iron Man 3 out of nowhere)
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Apr 25, 2019 22:43
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teagone posted:In the timeline where Rhodey and Nebula get the power stone on Morag before Quill does, that means in that specific alternate timeline, it's likely the GOTG never form, right? yeah, No Gamora, no Nebula, no Thanos, Quill doesn't have the object that starts the whole thing off in the first place. Drax is in prison, probably a little happy that Thanos is gone but still wanting to kill Ronan, Quill is probably hosed and/or back with the Ravagers, and The Adventures of Rocket and Groot continued, unmolested by any dumbass intergalactic plots
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Apr 25, 2019 23:47
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Mameluke posted:Is Nebula treated well in this movie? She is probably my favourite character in these my man, you won the lottery with this one.
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Apr 26, 2019 00:06
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I think the time travel mechanics were consistent with one exception at the end. And I think that one doesn't really matter too much - like maybe cap spent his whole life in another dimension with Peggy then jumped back to his original timeline to say goodbye. but what happens to the Cap in that dimension then?
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Apr 26, 2019 00:54
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DeimosRising posted:Only to wake up and find out some guy posed as him and stole his life while he was in a coma Marvel's U.S. Agent Coming 2022
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Apr 26, 2019 01:00
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teagone posted:Spoilers fellas. i mean there's nothing saying that he couldn't have stopped all that poo poo from happening, saved Bucky, defeated HYDRA again, etc, but i can't think of a single explanation for the Captain America sitting frozen in the ocean that isn't deeply hosed up and selfish for our Cap
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Apr 26, 2019 01:07
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R. Guyovich posted:worse than that really; there's only one female character with something important to do, and that something is specifically to die. it loving sucks. I mean Nebula had arguably the 3rd most important role in the whole thing and got to literally murder her old self to prove how much she had grown, that's not nothing. It's not what people were expecting certainly, but she did important things.
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who is the character with the most MCU screen time/biggest role who just does not show up at all in Endgame? Is it Vision, Coulson, Odin, or someone else?
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Apr 28, 2019 23:14
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I keep thinking about how totally unnecessary the final battle of giant armies is. Thanos' army is just a bunch of generic monster things that have very little personality, and I feel like "giant armies fighting" is not what people go see superhero movies for. I know why they did it, they wanted a bunch of goons that could easily be killed to make fun action moments but I really feel like there could have been a better way to create those interesting moments without just making 1000 of something and calling it a day. Like, it just feels like a lazy way to manufacture "epic" And yeah, I felt the same way about Infinity War. Honestly, it just felt like it was the same thing all over again. Mode 7 posted:Movie was a three hour long wallow in indulgence that could have used a much tighter script. Tony Stark, doo doo doo doo doo doo Tony Stark, doo doo doo doo doo doo Tony Stark, doo doo doo doo doo doo Tony Stark! Pepper Potts, doo doo doo doo doo doo Pepper Potts, doo doo doo doo doo doo Pepper Potts, doo doo doo doo doo doo Pepper Potts! Baby Stark, doo doo doo doo doo doo Baby Stark, doo doo doo doo doo doo Baby Stark, doo doo doo doo doo doo Baby Stark! Big Fat Thor, doo doo doo doo doo doo Big Fat Thor, doo doo doo doo doo doo Big Fat Thor, doo doo doo doo doo doo Big Fat Thor! Time travel, doo doo doo doo doo doo Time travel, doo doo doo doo doo doo Time travel, doo doo doo doo doo doo Time travel! Use the stones, doo doo doo doo doo doo Use the stones, doo doo doo doo doo doo Use the stones, doo doo doo doo doo doo Use the stones! Now he's dead! DC Murderverse fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Apr 29, 2019 |
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Brother Entropy posted:i mean, the real wise choice would've been giving a good actress like portman anything to do in the movies you're paying her to be in more than just about any actor i can think of, Natalie Portman has the ability to really, really give it her all in movies she cares about (which is common among good actors, natch) but in movies where she's just there for a paycheck you can tell she actively doesn't give a poo poo. Some actors give their all in everything, some actors are just bad in everything, but if it's not something she cares about Natalie Portman is just totally checked out on a level where if the only things you saw her in were Thor and Star Wars, you'd probably think she was awful but then you watch Black Swan or Annihilation or Jackie and it's just like, holy poo poo she's amazing how is that the same person, like she has a twin that has absolutely no charisma whatsoever that does her blockbuster work
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