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(Thread IKs: Nenonen)
What should the presidential powers be in 2020?
This poll is closed.
UNLIMITED!!!! URKKI 2.0!!!!!! 3 23.08%
Sauli should be allowed to telecast to our homes whenever he pleases, but that should be the limit. 2 15.38%
He should be limited to writing mildly worded letters to HBL and other provincial newspapers. 2 15.38%
None. More power to Sanna & Katri & Maria & Li & Anna-Maja & Jenni! 2 15.38%
Unlimited, but every decision must be subject to a plebiscite. 0 0%
None, but the president's life must be video streamed 24 /7 for the duration of their term, with no censorship. 4 30.77%
Total: 13 votes
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Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
The elections are in april, so there's going to be other poo poo on the news by then.

PS is also in a really bad shape for campaigning and they're not capable of actually exploiting the Oulu thing.

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Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks

No. 1 Callie Fan posted:

Please elaborate, poo poo like this ought to be basically manna from heaven to them.

Absent and incapable leadership: the chairman is off faffing about in Brussels, and his leadership is essentially "post on FB now and then."

Huhtasaari should pick up the slack, but she's not very convincing outside her own supporters, because she is dumb as a post and everyone can see that. T-Hakk is technically a vice chair but he's also T-Hakk who has no credibility or political skills.

The party office has been apart from Riikka Purra's attempts at spindoctoring and farts about windmills been silent since 2016.

The Rump PS had two years to get their organization in shape for the elections, and they've really done nothing to those ends. Instead, whatever they try to do re: Oulu, is lost in the generally incoherent and belligerent yelling online they do.

Also: it's a long time before the elections, and thing will probably normalize before then. poo poo like this doesn'ŧ get attention for months because people lose interest in new developments fairly soon.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks

doverhog posted:

Hallis has never been "ethno-nationalist", or a hard boiled nazi, although I guess lots of people think he is.

It's easier to get him once you look at the context he came from, i.e. nineties-style intellectual fascism that rejected the too vulgar skinhead movement (for the most part).

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
Introducing hard-rear end rent controls which makes profiting of rents less viable and doing some serious public-sector housing construction would gently caress up landlordism, which is the thing we need.

The easiest way to create a less oppressive benefits system is to award benefits by notification, and later do the numbers on those.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks

PineappleGod posted:

I'm still trying to figure out, if there is anything that will hurt Kok for the coming elections. I thought that the whole vanhusvaalit would be bad for Kok, but they seem to still be teflon.
Any ideas?

The whole Esperi scandal is really bad for Kok. That's why they've been entering flipmode since that began.

Liike Nyt is also bad for Kok, but the extent of how bad, we don't know. Nytten might hoover up Kok votes in critical districts and cause losses to Kok.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks

Jerry Cotton posted:

Still laughing at the nazi guy's "LET ME ASK EVERYONE HERE WHETHER THEY WOULD RATHER CHOOSE COMMUNISTS OR NATIONAL SOCIALISTS?!"

- COMMUNISTS, BECAUSE THEY DON'T COME IN HERE AND SHOUT ALL THE TIME!

and that's about when things started going ugly.

Was this Cosmic or Hummpub

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-10681429?fbclid=IwAR1I8UJqCO_pbbUKSleua5WlavDtSqUXmDM8NpUL4gBCWCHVFb4DZCAPJGE

Area man surprised about catching flak over calling his breakfast joint "Waffle-SS"

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
Sipilä is a good representative of the finnish entrepreneur.

By which I mean he's egotistical, a criminal and incompetent.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
Consumer choices are meaningless anyway

We could just cut subsidies for pork and beef production and both cut down on emissions and punish the hick fuckers who vote Kepu anyway.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
The Finnish election system is efficient as gently caress and doing electronic or online voting would be worthless anyway.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks

Jerry Cotton posted:

OK but what about the dude?

its you

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
Last time around, the PS couldn't scratch together five competent people for cabinet positions. Guess if they're better or worse off now?

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
I decided to vote for Li Andersson because if she becomes a cabinet minister a lot of people will go into cardiac arrest.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
Voted for Liam Damnson today.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
Osmo Soininvaara is a loving Christmas Elf who gets high off his own supply.

I'll never vote for the Greens because of that bald gently caress.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
Oh yeah this posting was bad but:

I'll never vote for the Greens, because of their support to the university reforms which put academic education in the shitter, along with Lex Soininvaara, that made things worse for poor young people, along with the utter muppet Haavisto deciding to privatize Caruna. It's a party for morons and centrist liberals.

edit: in addition, i was once drinking bubbly outside the Small Parliament and Antero Vartia walked by me and gave me diarrhea with his wax figure like presence.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks

Jerry Cotton posted:

Reminds me of the fact that Ligur always thought he was a reasonable human bean despite being sub-human I.e. a nazi-enabler.

Beans have more value than Ligur even did tho.

I watched this and once again thought about what sort of a hosed up mutant you have to be to be a fan of Jussi Halla-aho.

https://www.iltalehti.fi/eduskuntavaalit-2019/a/ba2b7337-016d-4a72-8fd6-c6c83766ac97

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
Kepu's bucketlist of demands for joining a government is pretty much the list of things that SDP can either give outright, or reach a viable compromise on.

I think that some of the party leadership understand that this is a situation where they'd get reamed even in opposition and the SDP is really the only party they can enter govt with.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
I mean, the least thing we can do is to agitate for violent actions against the far right. It's more effective than voting.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
The internal struggles going on in PS are fun to watch. Now that the fash wing of the party is no longer the in-party opposition, they've started tearing into each other for not being fash enough.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
Markus Jansson, convicted of child porn possession, surely is the best man around to voice his opinion on the traditional sex roles of men and women.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
The police, as it is, should be abolished.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks

This was a good post.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
Someone from this thread lost their job: https://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/art-2000006366418.html

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
Orpo's probably worried about how the opposition has basically been completely sidelined and the SDP are constantly rising the polls, and the neoliberal poo poo Kok is pending is just not sounding all that good to a population concerned by the Boomer Remover and losing their jobs.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
I think Husu is great because this is like the second or third time he's got thrown out of the SDP council group for being so bad at posting.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
Destroying people with poker machines actually owns and Veikkaus is doing God's work.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
The Dream for the old guard Cock is "public-private partnerships" where the state pays and private businesses benefit. Leposide is opposed to these on ideological grounds.

She's a nutcase but she is an ideological one.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks

No. 1 Callie Fan posted:

Then we'll have to ask the question: what party or politician is doing work or planning to improve the situation?

None of them.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks

doverhog posted:

Very nihilist of you. Not even Li?

LA are champs at "we'd like to change things but we feel it would upset things so we won't" which is probably better than the rest of the parties.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
Lets face it: Finland outside a handful of cities is utterly worthless and depressing.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks

Nenonen posted:

Not true, real Finland is like some Shakespearean tragicomedy where everyone is drinking themselves to death or stabbing each other. It's hilarious and enriching.

Its true only as long as you dont have to live in Insestipyhtää, Pohjanmaa. Then it stops being fun.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
"I never thought the Nazis would beat my head in with hammers", comments Kakka Petäjä, parliamentary assistant of the Nazis Beating People's Head In With Hammers Party.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
People are disappointed at LA and SDP for agreeing on Aktiivimalli 2.0 and the party MPs and various other functionaries are not taking it well.

It's loving awesome, the whole thing about Marin was gonna change everything and we're getting Aktiivimalli 2.0 that's more punitive than the first one. Shouldn't have voted for Li Andersson.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks

doverhog posted:

Sehän on, koska se on regressiivinen vero jonka tarkoitus on rahoittaa poliittisten broilerien suojatyöpaikkoja erilaisissa yhdistyksissä ja Veikkauksen hallinnossa. Juuri nyt on työn alla lainsäädäntö millä koitetaan estää rahaliikenne ulkomaisille vedonlyöntisivuille Veikkauksen monopolin suojelemiseksi.

Mä oon itse aina lähtenyt siitä että jos on niin saapas että tuhoaa itsensä jollain helvetin videopokerilla ansaitseekin latoa siihen jokaisen kansaneläkkeensä.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
Pekka Haavisto is the Green version of Soini, basically.

I occasionally wonder why the hell anyone gives a poo poo about Haavisto and his pursuit of the presidency since the guy is basically a void.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks

Nenonen posted:

So, Kärnä did a Kärnä thing and now a professor of law is suing him for defamation. Given that one of them has a clue about law and the other has none, the outcome seems a foregone conclusion, as strange as this seems to me. Maybe because social media has made me too dumbstruck to care about online slander and lies anymore.

The professor doesn't have much of a case here really, the barrier of entry for defamation is higher than that. There's a reason 95% of all defamation cases are binned before ever seeing a prosecutor.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
I am convinced that Atte Kaleva can't get it up unless he's wearing orange coveralls and his wife holds an knife to his throat.

Remind me, why did we pay like millions of euros to have that guy returned to us.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
At least the last couple of pages confirm that Persut is a party for people who hate foreigners and dont't know poo poo about politics, much like the Greens are a party for people who are vaguely liberal and don't know poo poo about politics.

SDP seems to be resurgent, and tbh I think despite his really obvious flaws, Antti Rinne deserves some credit. He had the stones to go and call himself a feminist and he didn't block the advancement of young women in the party.

The liberal wing of Cock has the issue that there's a lot of people there who can go to the Greens or to SDP and see no issue with doing so, and their nutso far right fringe is doing it's best to do so.

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Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
This is a pretty good explanation of the whole väestönvaihto thing and why it is a thing in Rudimentary Finns politics: https://twitter.com/161Dimi/status/1374307844720234496

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