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(Thread IKs: Nenonen)
What should the presidential powers be in 2020?
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UNLIMITED!!!! URKKI 2.0!!!!!! 3 23.08%
Sauli should be allowed to telecast to our homes whenever he pleases, but that should be the limit. 2 15.38%
He should be limited to writing mildly worded letters to HBL and other provincial newspapers. 2 15.38%
None. More power to Sanna & Katri & Maria & Li & Anna-Maja & Jenni! 2 15.38%
Unlimited, but every decision must be subject to a plebiscite. 0 0%
None, but the president's life must be video streamed 24 /7 for the duration of their term, with no censorship. 4 30.77%
Total: 13 votes
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No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

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Is this really about debating politics or covertly a recruitment area for the cult of Paavo

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Kemper Boyd posted:

PS is also in a really bad shape for campaigning and they're not capable of actually exploiting the Oulu thing.

Please elaborate, poo poo like this ought to be basically manna from heaven to them.

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Feb 17, 2011

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DarkCrawler posted:

EDIT: Persuyouth just dropping all pretense:
https://www.hs.fi/sunnuntai/art-2000005962641.html

This has been an interesting development, since "immigration criticism" has long been a dog-whistle for all sorts of far right types. Now that Halla-aho has lately spoken about how second generation immigrants should be considered Finns, this has raised the ire of the etno-nationalists, with racist idiot Marco de Wit of the SKE declaring that Halla-aho is "turning Finland into Africa".

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doverhog posted:

Hallis has never been "ethno-nationalist", or a hard boiled nazi, although I guess lots of people think he is.

It's more like the company he surrounds himself with. Dude might be a green-leftie for all I know, but since he's hanged around and attracts... err... people with deep knowledge of nazi trivia, one can't help but stop and wonder.

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Feb 17, 2011

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With the scandal of immigrants pushing into young flesh territory, we can see scavenger birds arriving to the scene. Namely some British "grooming gang expert" and "speaker of forbidden truths" Katie Hopkins arrived to Finland for the express purpose of "helping" authorities and politicians, but so far she's scheduled to meet city council member Junes Lokka.

That's right. Junes loving Lokka, Oulu's village idiot of the immigration critical movement.

Also lol Facebook is banning TF member accounts for violating their terms of service.

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Feb 17, 2011

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https://twitter.com/LauraHuhtasaari/status/1085570770858901509

Looks like social media giants are shutting down potential Russian agents or something.

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Feb 17, 2011

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The thing with digital online services is that we rely too much on foreign ones. American firms have grown to such an extent that there is now even the concept of digital colonialism of Europe. Thus our social and even political content is under scrutiny on American service of terms, with decisions made based on their idea of ethics and without local perspective by sweatshop moderators in a third world country.

What can you do? The obvious answer would be to use local services, but where are the alternatives? They either fail to gain traction or are bought off by foreign investors. Jaiku was the Finnish alternative to Twitter for example, but it was bought by Google, which languished under their wing.

There's always the comment section in news articles though. :v:

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Feb 17, 2011

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Alright, which one of you is Börje Börgelsson? Paavo Väyrynen deserves the best candidates, but I'm sure you guys are clowning around again. :mad:

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Feb 17, 2011

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Odd how there's no talk about increasing the work force to tackle white-collar crime and tax evasion, but I guess that would be bad for the survival of the welfare society somehow.

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Feb 17, 2011

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It's amazing, reading these accounts of how these privately operated old people's homes try to operate profitable to share holders while simultaneously working on the cheapest contract with the state. Long story short, it's a total poo poo show, but it has been going on for 10 years or so. The equation just doesn't work, but somehow that hasn't changed the politicians minds. Indeed, the government is defending themselves by saying their Social & Healthcare Services bill will fix those problems, but I have my doubts.

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Feb 17, 2011

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Shock, horror: Juha Sipilä didn't get rich with his engineering ingenuity, instead profiting off from other people's work thru a dormant company.

IL posted:

Liski kirjoittaa torstaina ilmestyvässä kirjassa Keskustan valtakunta - kertomus rahasta, vallasta ja korruptiosta (Into), että Sipilän rikastumisella ei ole ollut tekemistä äänestäjille esitellyn autotallissa puuhastelun tai insinööriosaamisen kanssa.

– Rahansa Sipilä hankki ostamalla ja myymällä osakkeita oikeaan aikaan - osakekeinottelulla, kuten vielä niihin aikoihin sanottiin. Autotallissaan miljoonayrityksiä luonut `Pelle Peloton`oli Lauri Kuokkanen. Sipilä onnistui rahastamaan Kuokkasen yrityksen, josta oli saanut alun perin suuren vähemmistöosuuden käytännössä lahjaksi, Liski esittää kirjassa arvionsa nykyisen pääministerin rikastumisesta.
It is so uncharacteristic of the Center Party that I am having cognitive dissonance right now. :geno:

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Feb 17, 2011

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https://youtu.be/rG77hKKW_jU

Nevar forget :finland:

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Nenonen posted:

oh by the way, zambo acorn is seeking a state funeral for an alcoholic wife-stabbing jailbird. must be an election year

That's because Masa was the most archetypal Finnish man.

Speaking of election year, NC turned their boat about turning the minimum required nurses per elderly patient (which is 0.7, what some experts consider very low) to law when it became clear to them that they were pretty much alone in their resistance and thus painting a big target sign on them for other parties to score against.

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Feb 17, 2011

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I guess hating the elderly isn't as sexy to the voters as hating the poor.

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https://twitter.com/Kelantutkimus/status/1093759621318279168

The results of the one year basic income experiment were released today, and so far results point out that there are no discernible effect on unemployment, but at least people were happier and more optimistic. So you can either see it as a huge failure or a more humane social security.

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Feb 17, 2011

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Yes checking if the bill works with the constitution is a blatant political game. Don't let such trivialities like right to privacy stop the process.

I find it hilarious that such a patriotic twerp like Niinistö thinks the constitution is more of a hindrance, not apparently remembering the real historical and patriotic background of the document. From who did we establish our national sovereignty, unless he's one of those old school Czar loving patriots.

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Feb 17, 2011

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TF are going province level to decree there are only two genders. The interview is amazing.

IS posted:

Kirjoitatte, että ”epätieteelliseen ja ideologiaan perustuvan oppimateriaalin käyttö on verrattavissa uskonnonopetukseen, ja siitä tulee siksi olla mahdollisuus kieltäytyä vakaumuksellisista syistä”. Teillä on aika negatiivinen käsitys uskonnonopetuksesta?

– Ei, tämä nimenomainen kohta on sellainen, jota en henkilökohtaisesti allekirjoita.

Olette allekirjoittanut.

– Kyllä, mutta tämä on tulkinnanvarainen kohta.

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Feb 17, 2011

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At least we can redirect random bullshit to its proper thread now.

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That's not actually a bad idea, even if it comes from someone working for HS.

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Hogge Wild posted:

sinänsä saska on kyllä ihan oikeassa, kommarit on kansanmurhanneet paljon enemmän ihmisiä

So they've been executing the green agenda?

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Feb 17, 2011

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Golden Gate Bride posted:

Isi tuu pyyhkimään persu

That's some hard-hitting political satire :golfclap:

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Feb 17, 2011

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Oh look, transport and communications minister Anne Berner (CP) isn't running for a second term - not that she had to in the first place - but instead is running for a post in Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken AB, a financial group. I guess her work is pretty much done, whatever that was.

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Wow, third way politics? Were the Rural Alliance ahead of their time?

Anyway the Social and Healthcare bill that the government has tried for years to ram thru is starting to finally fall into pieces, and I can't be more vahingoniloinen. How can the government and the parties involved be this incompetent in their job? You had amble time to figure poo poo out and fix the problems the same constitutional committee pointed out in previous sessions, but gently caress that. Cock wanted their "freedom of choice", and Kepu their loving provincial reforms. And to top it all off, they didn't even bother to ask the EU if they were OK with the plan, in case it conflicts with their laws and directives. How can you be this loving incompetent? Did they skip civil class in college that day where they discussed about laws and constitutions?

I'm venting, but goddamn if you thought Jyrki Katainen's six-pack coalition was poo poo, you certainly didn't expect a right-wing coalition government to be this inept. They had a good run loving the poor though.

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Prosecuted editor of trashy internet tabloid MV-lehti Ilja Janitskin is a candidate for the Seven Star Party in both general and European Parliament elections.

I think our honeymoon with Väyrynen is over.

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Darkest Auer posted:

It is good news that an incest cult doesn't get special privileges any more

I think this is just the opening shot, the possibility that the JW will take this to the European Human Rights Court and argue the government is ostracizing their religious freedom to practice Christian pacifism is quite possible. It is also rather unfortunate timing, considering the Russian government is cracking down on JW in the neighbourhood. One might play this as an example of Finland turning "illiberal".

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Havana Affair posted:

Afaik the exemption started because everyone of the Jehova's witnesses would object to the military service and start the whole process with the cops and the court and so on and the state didn't want to bother with it anymore. I don't see why they wouldn't go right back to that. Seems like a massive waste of time to please some olmi's authoritarian fantasies but hey that's perussuomalaiset / siniset for you.

Oh poo poo in this case this is good news for the JW since now they can play the Christian martyrdom card.

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Sharpest Crayon posted:

Is it true you can get out of doing asepalvelus if you tell them you're gay?

No, they'll just send you to officer training.

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Feb 17, 2011

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Darkest Auer posted:

Instead of exploiting a loophole in the law the correct course is to move towards an entirely voluntary service

You talk too much sense. :frogout:

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Feb 17, 2011

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Are we... the bad guys? :gonk:

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I think there's still a possibility of him running for a post on the European parliament? Well, we'll know for sure soon anyway.

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https://twitter.com/anttisiikaaho/status/1101387888074416128

Fear and loathing in Persulandia. Apparently catastrophizing is a thing with a large subset of TF voters.

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PineappleGod posted:

I just checked Paavos party's candidate list.

Paavo Väyrysen seitsemän tähden liikeen ehdokaslista:

1) Muutoksen puheenjohtaja Anita Saarinen
2) Siniristin liiton ja laillisuuspuolueen puheenjohtaja Jouko Piho
3) Itsenäisyyspuolueen entinen varapuheenjohtaja Ilkka Luoma
4) MV-lehden päätoimittaja Ilja Janitskin
5) Itsenäisyyspuolueen ex-puheejohtajaehdokas Mikko Vapa
6) Siniristi-puolueen entinen puheenjohtaja Akseli Erkkilä
7) Maidanin jääkärien johtaja Ari Lindström
8) Itsenäisyyspuolueen entinen varapuheenjohtaja Mauri Nygård
9) IKL:n entinen puheejohtaja Matti Järviharju
10) Edesmenneen puheenjohtaja Olavi Mäenpään entinen naisystävä Rosa Tani
11) SKYP:n naisten järjestön puheenjohtaja (mahdollisesti joidenkin puolueidenkin puheenjohtaja), ex-kansanedustaja Aune Mänttäri
12) Vaihtoehto Tampere -ryhmän puheenjohtaja Aarne Raevaara
13) Itsenäisyyspuolueen ex-varapuheenjohtaja Jukka Paakki
14) Köyhien asialla puolueen puheenjohtaja Terttu Savola

Erilaisten poliittisten johtajien lisäksi listalla ovat puoluekentän konkarit kuten Ritva Puolakka, Petri Kaivanto, Peter Fryckman, Seppo Hauta-aho, Harri Lindell, Jösse Järvenpää. Sokerina pohjalla SKDL-kommunisti Pirkko Turpeinen-Saari ja Väyrynen itse.

The amount of sheer crazy on this one list is amazing.

I've heard of fringe parties, but not at this level.

EDIT: Actually I think it's more of a cult than a political party. The signs are there.

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It's happening. IT'S HAPPENING!

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Ah, what a shitshow.

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Jerry Cotton posted:

Niinistö don't allow him to resign please TIA

You're a bit late on that.

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Feb 17, 2011

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Jerry Cotton posted:

gently caress you Niinistö you coward.

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Nenonen posted:

for the record I'm not satisfied until Väyrynen immolates himself on the steps of Eduskunta and reveals his true form

Fixed that for you

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Feb 17, 2011

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https://twitter.com/jyrkikasvi/status/1104641042714898432

Either those election candidate search engines are biased or they were made by Tieto.

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Nenonen posted:

It's a hint that you're in the wrong party, Jyrki.

https://twitter.com/MikaelJungner/status/1104648903515877381

It was you all along!

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https://twitter.com/kuumatotteet/status/1105470760460738560

EU is the kingdom of the antichrist! Repent by voting for meeeee!

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