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(Thread IKs: Nenonen)
What should the presidential powers be in 2020?
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UNLIMITED!!!! URKKI 2.0!!!!!! 3 23.08%
Sauli should be allowed to telecast to our homes whenever he pleases, but that should be the limit. 2 15.38%
He should be limited to writing mildly worded letters to HBL and other provincial newspapers. 2 15.38%
None. More power to Sanna & Katri & Maria & Li & Anna-Maja & Jenni! 2 15.38%
Unlimited, but every decision must be subject to a plebiscite. 0 0%
None, but the president's life must be video streamed 24 /7 for the duration of their term, with no censorship. 4 30.77%
Total: 13 votes
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Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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throw to first drat IT posted:

Now kun Rinne is dying to espanjantautiin, niin anyone mitään ideaa who's the next toivo of SDP

Sanna Marin I guess

E: probably not in time for this election though

Forktoss fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Jan 21, 2019

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Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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So is PS just automatically getting käppyrän kasvua because of the Oulu case, I haven't seen Jussi & co. even be especially active or vocal about it

Forktoss fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Feb 21, 2019

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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My friend was disqualified from armed service because the guy at kutsunnot recognised him from the local kesäteatteri

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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First of all, lol

but in light of that lol going back to this for a moment:

Rappaport posted:



Wanna see the coalition talks based on a result resembling anything like this :allears:

I'm guessing Rinne might accept a suitably penitent and broken-down kesk as a crutch to sdp+vihr+vas, which Sipilä might agree to if the next government's sote model includes some sort of maakuntahimmeli (which I don't think the left opposes as such as long as it's not tied to valinnanvapaus, and if kok is in opposition that's not a dealbreaker for kesk)

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:

https://twitter.com/jyrkikasvi/status/1104641042714898432

Either those election candidate search engines are biased or they were made by Tieto.

Jos yks vaalikoneen kysymys oli että antaisitko 99 pistettä Space Quest neloselle niin sitten ei kyllä kukaan ole vastannut 100% samoin kuin Jyrki

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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https://www.hs.fi/junkkari/art-2000006050796.html

The mystery Halla-aho's bike continues to unravel

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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Someone recommend me a real hardline commie bastard joka pistää rötösherrat ruotuun in Helsingin vaalipiiri tia

Sulphagnist posted:

I have literally never heard of any of these companies. I have no idea how we'll manage without these captains of industry.

I'm vaguely familiar with Lingosaur and they're your basic gig economy race-to-the-bottom quantity-over-quality orjapalkka nollatuntisoppari riistofirma, I assume the rest are about the same

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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P. E. Svinhufvud when the parliament named Mannerheim the Regent of Finland in 1918 posted:

If we ever get a fascist regime in this country, I'm blaming you guys for it.

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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loving praying on my knees for punamulta

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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Näkeekö ehdokaskohtaiset tulokset jostain?

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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Superanos posted:

If Kepu does not go into government, it's SDP+KOK+VIHR+RKP.

If Kepu goes with the left, it's SDP+KESK+VIHR+VAS+RKP.

If Kepu goes with the right, it's PS+KOK+KESK.

I know everyone is aching for Perskeko II but I don't think kok has much incentive to go with ps+kesk over sdp+vihr when Orpo pretty much gets to set whatever conditions he likes for hallitusneuvottelut with Rinne if kepu outright declines to cooperate with demarit

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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Andrast posted:

Why would this happen?

Well they don't exactly have kansan mandaatti right now so they might want to spend some time pushing their numbers up in oppositio.

I think they'll jump happily to punamulta though, especially without Sipilä

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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Punapersepaviaanihallitus brought down by shitposting

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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The one good reason to pine for Kekkonen is because he kept Kokoomus out of hallitus for 20 years

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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I wish Rinne would just say gently caress it and give vähemmistöhallitus a go, why not at this point

Nurge posted:

FTFTY. I'm not surprised at all. SDP is some weak bullshit. Only thing I'm looking for is if LA has any conviction.

The last thing SDP wants is Vas räksyttämässä in oppositio while it's tied to Kok in hallitus, but that's what you get if you get fooled into sinipuna for the 100th time

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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If kepu doesn't want to go to hallitus with sdp they have even less reason to do it with perskok again

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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Virkamies buys pizza, pizzan paistaja pays taxes, taxes pay virkamies, virkamies buys more pizza. It's the circle of life

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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I wonder what's gonna happen with Kok/PS/KD in oppositio, Kokoomus for one seem super excited to start steering further right while kansanrintama eats the blame for whatever recession is around the corner.

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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You know Jan Vapaavuori is already eyeing to become the king of tolkun natsit in 2024

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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https://www.is.fi/politiikka/art-2000006114592.html

quote:

Hämmennystä on herättänyt myös hengennostatustilaisuus, jonka Rinne järjesti tiistaiaamuna Säätytalolla kaikille neuvottelijoille.

Rinne huudatti neuvottelijoita kysymällä heiltä ”halutaanko me tästä hallitus?”.

Antti is taking the Hulk Hogan approach to hallitusneuvottelut

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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quote:

PACKALÉN epäili 2014, ettei Venäjän joukkoja ole Ukrainassa. Hän on myös ihmetellyt, miksi Venäjää on syytetty malesialaisen matkustajakoneen alasampumisesta tai Salisburyn myrkkyiskusta.

Tämä Robinin uus tuotanto on vähän erikoista

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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Mika Lintilä named as Minister of Moneybags. I wonder if he's meant to keep the seat for the whole term or if he's just keeping it warm for the next party chair.

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:

Vanhanen is hosting a talk show on AlfaTV

This is the most boring sentence I have ever seen

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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They should call it Laudat päreiksi

E: or Kuuma uuniperuna

Forktoss fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Jun 15, 2019

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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Kun yksi Jyrki Kasvi tippuu pois niin kaksi tulee tilalle

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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old whiny baby posted:

Suomessa koko puoluekenttä hokee sosialismiin perustuvaa pakotetun yhteisvastuun koodikieltä. Keskusta ja kokoomuskin ovat omaksuneet sosiaalietiikakseen kollektivistisen tulontasauksen ja avokätisen ihmisoikeusidealismin.

Yksilönvastuusta ja vapaudesta, ihmisyyden vaatimuksista, elintapapolitiikasta ja suorituskyvyn nostamisesta ei puhu juuri kukaan.

Yeah wow I have no idea why no one is talking about these meaningless buzzwords

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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bloom posted:

Yle bringing us more takes from noted genius Ehrnrooth

https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-10900826

e: also note the name of the first commenter

Well this is a pretty interesting historical thinkpiece, I mean it is true that there is a strong monarchical streak in our presidential system and it is fascinating how that developed in parallel with our democratic system before both crashed straight into Kekkonen, and oh that's not at all relevant to what he's talking about and the actual problem is that our constitution is too lenient on undeserving poors, got it

Kuule hain nussivan posted:

The "If you say finns are racist you're puking on our social security you freeloader!" bit was also pretty great.

I thought the porvaristo was all about disrespecting our evil communist social security system

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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uncop posted:

I especially love the call for defensive constitutional changes against the rising threat of a ”green command economy” taking away the individual right to passively participate in the most intense extinction event and the largest genocide the world will ever see (because there wouldn’t be enough people left to ever one-up it).

I for one absolutely relish the thought of living in a free market economy where every act and product and breath and fart is assigned an ever-changing monetary value by the whims of an invisible hand and everyone seeking to have a place in society is forced into a self-perpetuating system of economic incentives that amasses wealth and power in the hands of the already wealthy and powerful while simultaneously expediting the disenfranchisement of the most vulnerable members of society, the exploitation of our dwindling natural resources, and the total and complete death of our species and our planet. A perfect consummation of individual liberty

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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quote:

Kaiken kattavan yhteisvastuun hengessä Suomen valtiolla on perustuslakimme mukaan vakaa aikomus turvata jokaiselle maassa asuvalle koulutus, työ, toimeentulo, asunto, terveys, ja jopa ”yhtäläinen mahdollisuus - - kehittää itseään varattomuuden sitä estämättä”. Siten mistä maailmankolkasta tahansa Suomeen ajautunut ideologisesti työtön torvimusiikin ystävä voisi perustuslakiin vedoten elää muiden kustannuksella ja vaatia itselleen tuuban soitonopettajaa.

Hate this real thing that totally happens all the time, in reality

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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Qtamo posted:

That last sentence is great, since it manages to be hostile towards 1. foreigners 2. "ideologically unemployed" people (as in anybody not prioritizing lovely jobs at lovely wages over everything else) and 3. musicians/artists. That it's these qualities that get picked in his example of a parasite completely abusing the system is so, so telling, although not unexpected. It's also pretty great how he draws the line of an acceptable constitution at the self-development of poors.

It's also weird how the all-powerful bureaucratic apparatus of the socialist state smothers the heroic private-sector job creator with its labyrinthine rules and small-minded regulations, but at the same time it's also super easily exploited by these stupid and lazy tuba enthusiasts

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:

In other news, CP have been on a free-fall in the polls, but things might change when the party convenes this weekend to vote for the new chair(wo)man. It's a race between Katri Kulmuni and Antti Kaikkonen, but the differences are more in geography, age and gender rather than ideology. Kulmuni at least released a political pamphlet where she's planning to bring CP back to its Maalaisliitto roots.

Santeri Alkion perintö is all well and good, but Kulmuni is a Väyrynen acolyte kowtowing hard to the most conservative kepu base. Kanki is little better, but at least he seems to have been shamed into keeping his hands away from the valtiovarainministerinsalkku. Though of course there's no telling how long that shred of decency will last if he's actually chosen. So all in all,

Andrast posted:

kepulainen sieltä tulee kuitenkin

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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Se on joku helvetin kuvalautakusipää kuitenkin

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/c48516be-7905-4845-94e7-bbd9d02fd545

quote:

Nainen kuvailee luokkatoveriaan ”fiksuksi nörtiksi”.

– Vähän yksinäinen sielu hän on.

yup

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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My favorite moment in Finnish domestic terrorism was after the Turku stabbings when they called Matti Vanhanen for a comment in Aamu-tv or something and the host said "Päivää, Matti Vanhanen." and you could hear how Matti almost reflexively responded with "hyvää päivää" but he quickly corrected himself and said solemnly "Surullista päivää."

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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https://www.hs.fi/talous/art-2000006260117.html

quote:

Yhdysvallat aikoo korottaa myös suomalaisten juustojen, voin, lihatuotteiden, mehujen ja jogurttien tulleja 18. lokakuuta.

Suomalaisista yhtiöistä suuri kärsijä olisi todennäköisesti Valio, jonka juustoja viedään runsaasti Yhdysvaltoihin. Valio oli odottanut päätöstä huolissaan.

Yhdysvaltain listalla oli kuitenkin Valiolle huojentava tieto: Suomesta tulevien emmental-tyyppisten juustojen tulleja ei nostetakaan toisin kuin 25 muun Euroopan maan, kuten esimerkiksi Ruotsin, Tanskan ja Viron.

Valio vie Yhdysvaltoihin eniten juuri emmentalia.

Sauli made some cheese deals

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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You can't spell IK without IKL eiku

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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bloom posted:

I do like how widely austerity is still accepted as a common sense policy despite all the misery it's wrought over the last decade.

I kinda hate it actually

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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Kepu may be a kivireki to this hallitus but it's hardly the fault of the reki if everyone at the reins is an idiot

Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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Rotacixe posted:

Onneksi en lähettänyt postia englanninkielisellä palvelulla. Voisi harmittaa saada tietää, että Posti on hajottanut lähetyksen.



This is 100% Google Translated poo poo that no human eyes ever even glanced at before publication. I had no idea Posti could get more incompetent but here we are.

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Forktoss
Feb 13, 2012

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Yep Paatero's gone

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