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paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
:synpa:

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Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
li keep having this problem where when all of my child characters turn into adults they gain a crippling depression trait

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Taintrunner posted:

li keep having this problem where when all of my child characters turn into adults they gain a crippling depression trait

have your martial suppress reovlt

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
marshal

AnoHito
May 8, 2014

Taintrunner posted:

li keep having this problem where when all of my child characters turn into adults they gain a crippling depression trait

It's really annoying because when you hover over your capitalismness, it says that it increases pop happiness, but it only takes into account the super rich strata for some reason. There's also a hidden modifier that lowers pop happiness of everyone else by ~.5% a month at high capitalismnesss, and all youth pops start with just okay-ish happiness, so they all end up crazy depressed by the time they hit adulthood.

Like with everything, just rush for the guillotine reform and it should be solved.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

AnoHito posted:

It's really annoying because when you hover over your capitalismness, it says that it increases pop happiness, but it only takes into account the super rich strata for some reason. There's also a hidden modifier that lowers pop happiness of everyone else by ~.5% a month at high capitalismnesss, and all youth pops start with just okay-ish happiness, so they all end up crazy depressed by the time they hit adulthood.

Like with everything, just rush for the guillotine reform and it should be solved.

The tool tips for Capitalism and Luxury Socialism got switched in some localizations. The Luxury Socialism happiness modifier works by acting on the top social stratum, which for the Full Socialist economic group should be the only stratum.

SardonicTyrant
Feb 26, 2016

BTICH IM A NEWT
熱くなれ夢みた明日を
必ずいつかつかまえる
走り出せ振り向くことなく
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I'm trying to negotiate with the USA, but I'm so confused as to what they actually want. We broker a deal, but then they pull out of it, only to propose the exact same deal, just with a new name. And then they keep threatening their allies while opening peace talks with their enemies.

Is this like the civilization meme with Ghandi? Is there a joke I'm missing here?

Captain Billy Pissboy
Oct 25, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice
I just realized what's been bugging me about this game. It's just a re-skin of crusader kings. The social and political simulation is just ck's feudalism with corporations instead of countries.

Mycroft Holmes
Mar 26, 2010

by Azathoth

Captain Billy Pissboy posted:

I just realized what's been bugging me about this game. It's just a re-skin of crusader kings. The social and political simulation is just ck's feudalism with corporations instead of countries.

i see someone isn't familiar with 21st century history

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I seem to be experiencing a bug wherein I am allowed to continue looting holdings indefinitely?

It's pretty broken I'm making like $10 mil a year (while I normally make $7k per month). The holding has long since become broke but it just keeps letting me loot it.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
these ugly loving shopping malls keep popping up on my map and I can’t get rid of them fast enough

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
So all of my city holdings are stuck on the boring early-2000's graphic pack where every apartment bloc is just a 12 story square fronted by a cheap glass facade. It's almost 2020 and this poo poo is still getting built, is that anywhere near historically correct? When I enter debug mode the tooltip calls the image "white_people_habitat" if that helps.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Zeroisanumber posted:

So all of my city holdings are stuck on the boring early-2000's graphic pack where every apartment bloc is just a 12 story square fronted by a cheap glass facade. It's almost 2020 and this poo poo is still getting built, is that anywhere near historically correct? When I enter debug mode the tooltip calls the image "white_people_habitat" if that helps.

Could be working as intended, make sure you're investing research points into Urban Planning and that your mass transit budget slider isn't at the minimum. It's advisable to be up to 'Prototype Arcologies' in the tech tree (at least) by the early 2020s because that's when major climate-change disasters start to hit in significant numbers on Historic. This is particularly true for high-population arid regions like the Sunbelt in North America, which quickly become almost worthless without the drought-resistance bonuses you get from Arcology developments.

Captain Billy Pissboy
Oct 25, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice
Housing in general is broken. Landlords refuse to lower rent even when an apartment has been sitting empty. Prices are so high that blue collar workers are forced out of cities entirely which causes most shops to close since no one is around to work there.

It really seems like the developers put zero thought into the economic simulation. They tried to hack together a system with a bunch of competing agents but it just results in a chaotic uncoordinated mess.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Fallen Hamprince posted:

Could be working as intended, make sure you're investing research points into Urban Planning and that your mass transit budget slider isn't at the minimum. It's advisable to be up to 'Prototype Arcologies' in the tech tree (at least) by the early 2020s because that's when major climate-change disasters start to hit in significant numbers on Historic. This is particularly true for high-population arid regions like the Sunbelt in North America, which quickly become almost worthless without the drought-resistance bonuses you get from Arcology developments.

I have the sliders locked on Historical because I'm trying for the "Boomer Twilight" achievement. So no arcologies for me until after California literally burns flat. :suicide:

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Captain Billy Pissboy posted:

Housing in general is broken. Landlords refuse to lower rent even when an apartment has been sitting empty. Prices are so high that blue collar workers are forced out of cities entirely which causes most shops to close since no one is around to work there.

It really seems like the developers put zero thought into the economic simulation. They tried to hack together a system with a bunch of competing agents but it just results in a chaotic uncoordinated mess.

Sounds like you’re going for a laissez faire run; make sure you set zoning restrictions to ‘none’ or slum districts won’t spawn, leaving working-class pops with nowhere to live.

Often Abbreviated
Dec 19, 2017

1st Severia Tank Brigade
"Ghosts of Honcharivske"
wtf I was happily fortifying the U.S border with Mexico in preparation for the Sundowner Wars but I clicked "Build the Wall" when the event fired and now it won't let me fortify anymore. Or rather, I can happily fortify everywhere else, I can even raise militarisation in New York to 999% (it breaks the slider on the UI but still works somehow???) but I can't build the actual wall.

Get your poo poo together Paradox this is loving dumb.

Heavy_D
Feb 16, 2002

"rararararara" contains the meaning of everything, kept in simple rectangular structures

Often Abbreviated posted:

wtf I was happily fortifying the U.S border with Mexico in preparation for the Sundowner Wars but I clicked "Build the Wall" when the event fired and now it won't let me fortify anymore. Or rather, I can happily fortify everywhere else, I can even raise militarisation in New York to 999% (it breaks the slider on the UI but still works somehow???) but I can't build the actual wall.

Get your poo poo together Paradox this is loving dumb.

it doesn't make much sense, but I read that until the patch it's actually easier to get the wall built while not in power. the idea goes: use your oppo to eliminate credible opposition challengers, then when you're left facing an idiot ai sabotage your own election with dumb decisions. from opposition it's not too hard to stymie all of his plans and sink the presidents approval with his base pop. below a certain point the president is supposed to build the wall automatically using emergency ai powers that the player can't access. not tried it myself but you might want to give it a go...

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


are homeless pops bugged? been trying to keep a west coast late-stage capitalism demesne running longer than any real one ever did, but the labor pool keeps glitching out for some reason. so far as I can tell, as soon as a homeless pop has a child old enough to go to school, they get teleported to the nearest prison

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

World War Mammories posted:

are homeless pops bugged? been trying to keep a west coast late-stage capitalism demesne running longer than any real one ever did, but the labor pool keeps glitching out for some reason. so far as I can tell, as soon as a homeless pop has a child old enough to go to school, they get teleported to the nearest prison

You have carceral state enabled. You should be able to assign those prisoner pops as laborers who "consume" nothing except a low amount of cash, but your consciousness starts to rise slowly even among wealthy pops so make sure you keep your police well-funded.

AceRimmer
Mar 18, 2009
So I'm trying to pull off the "All Alone" challenge scenario without resorting to gamey tactics but I just can't seem to prevent global agricultural collapse. Am I missing anything or is the last 2/3rds of the climate mitigation focus tree bugged too?

Former DILF
Jul 13, 2017

This is kinda offtopic but I don’t know anywhere else to post this


I once hooked up with a lady only because she looked like Carl II of spain lmao

She shot up with meth before and I busted so quick

Captain Billy Pissboy
Oct 25, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Former DILF posted:

This is kinda offtopic but I don’t know anywhere else to post this


I once hooked up with a lady only because she looked like Carl II of spain lmao

She shot up with meth before and I busted so quick

:popeye: :eyepop:

Former DILF
Jul 13, 2017

I remember it occasionally and lmbo

I’m such a god drat weirdo

Heavy_D
Feb 16, 2002

"rararararara" contains the meaning of everything, kept in simple rectangular structures
Issue "War on Terror slider"
Noticed an issue with this almost immediately. Each time you push this slider higher, terrorism increases in response, rather than decreasing as one would expect. The whole thing's a trap choice, because if you try and reduce it again later, you get primaried for not staying the course. I'm stuck in four different wars with seemingly no way out.

What makes this worse is that I reported the same issues with the War on Drugs slider over a decade ago...seems like Paradox has yet again taken old buggy code and recycled it without fixing anything.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Hey guys I think the Political scandal event is busted, it keeps firing in Virginia and it keeps revealing blackface

sullat
Jan 9, 2012
Is there any way to get someone other than Trump to win the 2020 elections? All the opposition candidates have the 'radical centrist' debuff giving them -5/-5/-5 and when I try to select an unaffiliated candidate the primary decision bugs out. 9/12/2001 USA Start, VH/VH.

Often Abbreviated
Dec 19, 2017

1st Severia Tank Brigade
"Ghosts of Honcharivske"
I've noticed something weird with the U.S economy in the early game. I didn't notice at first because of how much more Industrial Output I had over other countries anyway, but then I committed to the "Build the Wall" strat on both borders which requires a lot of Industry and realised I didn't have anything like the amount I thought I had.

I went digging into economy screen hell (can we please get a better U.I for this?) and eventually found out that like 40% of my "Industrial" pops don't actually produce anything. You really have to dig into the details to see it but a whole bunch of Industries are bugged somehow so that they never contribute to the Industrial pool - Finance, Insurance, Real Estate, a real big one just called "Tech Services" which I guess is meant to be robot butlers or something? Anyway, altogether they make up nearly half your Industrial pops and all they do is drain resources.

Has anyone dealt with this before? It seems like you could accomplish so much more in the early 2000's if you could just retask those pops to something actually productive.

Captain Billy Pissboy
Oct 25, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Often Abbreviated posted:

I've noticed something weird with the U.S economy in the early game. I didn't notice at first because of how much more Industrial Output I had over other countries anyway, but then I committed to the "Build the Wall" strat on both borders which requires a lot of Industry and realised I didn't have anything like the amount I thought I had.

I went digging into economy screen hell (can we please get a better U.I for this?) and eventually found out that like 40% of my "Industrial" pops don't actually produce anything. You really have to dig into the details to see it but a whole bunch of Industries are bugged somehow so that they never contribute to the Industrial pool - Finance, Insurance, Real Estate, a real big one just called "Tech Services" which I guess is meant to be robot butlers or something? Anyway, altogether they make up nearly half your Industrial pops and all they do is drain resources.

Has anyone dealt with this before? It seems like you could accomplish so much more in the early 2000's if you could just retask those pops to something actually productive.

Finance in general seems completely broken. It's all based around something called "interest" which makes no sense. A bank has money that they "loan" to people. The people then "owe" the bank an ever increasing amount of money in return. The bank doesn't actually do anything though, they just sort of make more money because they already had money.

Even more bizarre is that these "debts" get combined together and sold as if they were real things. This creates all sorts of nonsensical behavior. You can get your GDP super high just by spamming finance even if you have no actual production. I've seen mass famines happen because of the weird ways these imaginary products behave.

I'm no historian but interest just sounds too absurd to be true. Is it one of those historical myths like "white people"?

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Captain Billy Pissboy posted:

Finance in general seems completely broken. It's all based around something called "interest" which makes no sense. A bank has money that they "loan" to people. The people then "owe" the bank an ever increasing amount of money in return. The bank doesn't actually do anything though, they just sort of make more money because they already had money.

Even more bizarre is that these "debts" get combined together and sold as if they were real things. This creates all sorts of nonsensical behavior. You can get your GDP super high just by spamming finance even if you have no actual production. I've seen mass famines happen because of the weird ways these imaginary products behave.

I'm no historian but interest just sounds too absurd to be true. Is it one of those historical myths like "white people"?

If you set tax rates above some arbitrary threshold all the finamce pops emigrate elsewhere. Most of the time, Switzerland or the Bahamas but sometimes they end up in Somalia which makes Somalia super OP since they end up owning half the USA, lol.

AnoHito
May 8, 2014

Is it just me or is this event chain about capitalists stealing children's blood to try to make themselves immortal a little too out there? I mean, we get it, they're evil. You don't have to make them literal vampires.

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


paradox is really into that stuff, you just have to deal with it. I remember playing DoC3 and getting this long event chain in the late 20th century about a Finance pop who not only kept raping kids, but also kept himself out of trouble by giving govt pops rides on his plane, named Childfucking Limited. just let them exaggerate, at least we know reality isn’t quite so dumb

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

sullat posted:

Is there any way to get someone other than Trump to win the 2020 elections? All the opposition candidates have the 'radical centrist' debuff giving them -5/-5/-5 and when I try to select an unaffiliated candidate the primary decision bugs out. 9/12/2001 USA Start, VH/VH.

Try downloading the 'Before The Storm' DLC that lets you start playing in 1991 instead of 2000 and then rush to unlock the 'Cold War Peace Dividend' before 2000 so you can retrain your WWC rustbelt pops into knowledge workers which seems to be the only way to actually get the 'Slay Queen' option in 2016.

Big Mad Drongo
Nov 10, 2006

Okay, I read the spoilers on the wiki, and holy hell (no pun intended) the Second Coming event chain is extremely my poo poo. Except it seems completely loving bugged!

Everything goes smoothly in the early game, I nuke Israel, the first few seals break, but the once the actual Second Coming gets underway and Donald Trump descends from the heavens and global politics revert to an exact replay of the 2016-2024 period. The U.S. even unilaterally supports the cannibalistic atrocities of Israel's marauding mutant hordes, this is ridiculous!

What gives, devs?

Often Abbreviated
Dec 19, 2017

1st Severia Tank Brigade
"Ghosts of Honcharivske"

Big Mad Drongo posted:

Okay, I read the spoilers on the wiki, and holy hell (no pun intended) the Second Coming event chain is extremely my poo poo. Except it seems completely loving bugged!

Everything goes smoothly in the early game, I nuke Israel, the first few seals break, but the once the actual Second Coming gets underway and Donald Trump descends from the heavens and global politics revert to an exact replay of the 2016-2024 period. The U.S. even unilaterally supports the cannibalistic atrocities of Israel's marauding mutant hordes, this is ridiculous!

What gives, devs?

The United States tag seems to be hardcoded into max friendly relations with Israel at all times. It makes sense within the narrow context of actual history (until the More Perfect Union event dissolves the U.S and tag-switches the successor states), and seems to be there because otherwise an AI USA will proc a coalition war against Israel sometime in the early 2000s. They don't seem to have come up with a more elegant solution than locking US relations with Israel at the highest value.

This can have a couple of unexpected side-effects if the US never breaks up. One of which you've found (player controlled USA still locked to maximum friendly relations with Israel after nuking them and triggering cannibal mutant hordes), and the other one I'm aware of is if Israel ever attacks the US directly, where you get a variation of the old Roger a Muirebe bug where the US declares war against the US triggering the US ally the US to declare war against the US etc etc etc.

Heavy_D
Feb 16, 2002

"rararararara" contains the meaning of everything, kept in simple rectangular structures

Agean90 posted:

Hey guys I think the Political scandal event is busted, it keeps firing in Virginia and it keeps revealing blackface

who thought that this would be the evergreen post of the thread

Sekenr
Dec 12, 2013




Former DILF posted:

This is kinda offtopic but I don’t know anywhere else to post this


I once hooked up with a lady only because she looked like Carl II of spain lmao

She shot up with meth before and I busted so quick

Well, me too! Sans meth. I was charmed by her because she was literally the smarted person I ever met (graduated philosophy in Sorbonne) and basically professionally wrote philosophical whatnots, it was absolute joy to talk to her about anything and get a fresh and profound insight about almost any topic but I just couln't get over that jaw and it never progressed anywhere.

UrbicaMortis
Feb 16, 2012

Hmm, how shall I post today?

sullat posted:

Is there any way to get someone other than Trump to win the 2020 elections? All the opposition candidates have the 'radical centrist' debuff giving them -5/-5/-5 and when I try to select an unaffiliated candidate the primary decision bugs out. 9/12/2001 USA Start, VH/VH.

I'm playing the Jeb! mod at the moment but it's totally broken. When I took the 'suspend elections' decision in 2024, the rebel troops spawned as expected but his 'Please Clap' ability wiped them out immediately. Pretty sure the mod maker is a Jeb!ist because there's no reason to make him so OP.

HerraS
Apr 15, 2012

Looking professional when committing genocide is essential. This is mostly achieved by using a beret.

Olive drab colour ensures the genocider will remain hidden from his prey until it's too late for them to do anything.



The Dems refuse to nominate Bernie no matter how hard he wins the popular vote during the primaries, suck my rear end devs

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Wakko
Jun 9, 2002
Faboo!
sorry, noob question here- anyone have any tips for navigating the mid-game as communist mexico? i truck along just fine holding off the USA by following the wiki's strat of allying russia and SA at the start, then backing the new confederacy after 'american war' triggers until the USA takes a white peace.

the problem is supporting american rebels eats up so much of my economy that by the time 'so long and thanks for the all the fish' and 'flight of the last bumblebee' trigger my tax base basically drops to zero and stability falls through the floor even with the passive bonuses from communism. once the first water war shows up my military is crippled from fighting reactionary rebels and its gg.

my best run so far was when the USA fully balkanized and i annexed the pacifica commonwealth, but then 'the big one' and 'the BIGGER one' both triggered within 5 years and taxes went negative there and you guessed it, -3 stability.

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