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MrBling posted:Also, probably my favourite Tony moment is the pulp argument out in the driveway. The idea that this loving idiot will stalk out of his house in his bathrobe, just to chase Carmella down to bitch about the orange juice, is hilarious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IS-GZ4q340
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2019 22:42 |
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# ¿ May 11, 2024 11:07 |
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Hell yes Jerusalem, keep going. I just did a rewatch of all 86, and then rewatched some individual episodes/arcs yet again after that. I'm in the mood to discuss this wonderful show.
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2019 03:15 |
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I just wanted to say Jerusalem, thanks so much for doing these! I'm rewatching each episode after reading your summaries but I'm still back on s3e2. I seriously have no idea how many times I've watched this show in its entirety, but reading your recaps and the other comments before each one is giving me a lot of new things to think about. Salud!
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2019 02:07 |
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Christopher was always my favorite character. I guess because his character was exactly the same age I was, while the show was originally airing. A dumb reason, I know. I remember after this episode, what he did to Ade, I almost didn't want to watch it anymore. I'd already come to terms with what shitbags all these characters are, and obviously I knew Chris was no angel, but this episode... ugh. e: Also, I already loathed Tony but the way he beats Georgie at the end of "Cold Cuts" and then immediately after that gleefully ruins Sunday dinner, and walks out with his poo poo-eating grin, made me long for his death. Even though that would have meant the end of the show. MrMojok fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Oct 6, 2019 |
# ¿ Oct 6, 2019 00:55 |
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I want to say again... it is amazing how often I read these and gain some insight from your posts. I watched all of these episodes as they aired live on Sundays, for years. I have rewatched all of them countless times since then. I bought the Sopranos Sessions book a while back, and I enjoy it, but your recaps are the best I have ever read, period. I am in the process of compiling them into a series of Word docs, and I like to read them before rewatching any episode now. It has enhanced my enjoyment of this series, which was already my favorite series of all time, immeasurably.
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# ¿ Oct 6, 2019 02:21 |
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can't stress it enoughMrMojok posted:e: Also, I already loathed Tony but the way he beats Georgie at the end of "Cold Cuts" and then immediately after that gleefully ruins Sunday dinner, and walks out with his poo poo-eating grin, made me long for his death. Even though that would have meant the end of the show.
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2019 21:20 |
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Elias Koteas is a great actor that criminally hasn't been in much. He's best known for being mistaken for Christopher Meloni, to the point that people keep bothering the latter on Twitter about the time he was on the Sopranos. And here is that shocking moment when I finally learned that the guy who staged the intervention was not, in fact, Chris Keller on OZ (as I had thought for fifteen years)
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2019 21:46 |
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Fuckin’ SLANDA, you ask me
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# ¿ Dec 27, 2019 23:18 |
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Good Lord, that was an excellent writeup. I tell you, I have seen all 86 episodes at least five times, and many of them more than that. But every single one is always better now if I first read your writeup for it. Bravo!
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2020 00:53 |
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I always thought the parallels between Tony's and Phil's arcs were pretty interesting. Though separated by quite a bit of time in most cases, each of them: 1) becomes defacto Boss while the guy above them becomes a lightning rod for the FBI 2) has a major health scare that causes them to rethink things and decide to be better 3) this last for a short amount of time in each case, after which both of them are bigger bastards than ever before and half of this last one is a matter of conjecture of course, but 4) is murdered in front of their family
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2020 01:27 |
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YES!!! The thought of the fat gently caress wandering around the whole house holding a half gallon of OJ, just to bitch at her about pulp, gets me every single time.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2020 23:32 |
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Jerusalem posted:More to the point, it's a way for him to lash out after the unpleasantness of his encounter with the Insurance lady just adding on to his sense of detachment after coming out of the coma. Here is something he can pinpoint and target as an injustice done to him (even if he's just making it up) and exhibit control over by intimidating the poor bastard. This is the way I always read it. The "wallet biopsy" remark set him off, and this is his way of getting even. Never mind that the poor EMT tech has nothing to do with the insurance company's "utilization review specialist"
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2020 00:52 |
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Yeah, the old man blurting out to Aunt Louise "Don't eat that peppa!!!" is one of those little moments in this show that gets me every time. And also, yeah the crazy song at the end of Stage Five is absolutely chilling, as it plays while Phil is saying "No more, Butchie." It evokes such an incredible feeling of doom, and you just know the big mob war that's been teased for several seasons, but never actually happened, is now on the horizon.
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# ¿ Jan 15, 2020 23:26 |
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I think the most remarkable thing about the way they wrote the NY-NJ gang war was that when it all came down to it, that "pygmy thing" in Jersey ended up being the Gang that Couldn't Shoot Straight. Tony gets a tip from Agent Harris that it's about to go down, and decides to act first, but amazingly they bungle it. They end up killing Phil's goomar's father, and his goomar, and later when Corky is asked by one of the hitmen if Phil spoke Ukranian, he's like "uhh, what?" I think he later asks Patsy if Phil spoke Ukranian, and even Patsy fails to put two and two together. Later they do figure out what happened, but then are unable to effectively get the word out to everyone to watch their asses, resulting in Bobby's death and Silvio's near-death. They do get Phil in the end, but only because once again Agent Harris helps them out. I guess we couldn't really have expected the small "glorified crew" in Jersey to acquit themselves well against what is basically one of the five NY Families in the world of the show, but man, it was a comedy of errors.
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2020 22:51 |
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I did realize we didn't see Artie much at all until the very end (when it seems like things are going well for him and 'Manie), but I honestly never made the connection that this episode is the one where Artie finally wises up. Good interpretation, and it's the one I choose to believe. I hope things continued to go well for him after the curtain dropped on the series. I've seen a lot of good TV but for whatever reason I don't think of the characters from anything else as being so... real, if that makes sense.
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2020 02:44 |
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Pope Corky the IX posted:The fact that it was smoked turkey is even more galling to Carmela because he's not supposed to be eating stuff like that which is why it's not in the fridge, and she was even proud of using low fat/low sodium salami in his sandwich earlier. Good catch.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2020 02:23 |
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Pope Corky the IX posted:One of my favorite little touches is that Gandolfini will turn his pinky ring around if he's going to punch someone. It's barely noticeable at first, but if you're looking for it, you'll see he does it every time without fail. He even does it during the argument with Ralph after the fire at least thirty seconds before he finally hits him. this is yet another great catch. I have gotten more out of this thread than any Sopranos website/twitter feed/whatever, it never fails to amaze. I love all of you fuckers for this.
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2020 05:47 |
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BiggerBoat posted:One of my favorite episodes, mostly because of the little things. The characters and actors do a great job with an excellent script all trying to say things they actually don't want to say as they dance around their real feelings. I think all of the them do tremendous work acting with their bodies and faces too. It's always been a strong suit of the show but it really shines here how much they emote their true feelings without speaking. They also do a great job of acting drunk; something a lot of actors overdo. Man, I cannot agree with this enough. The interpersonal relations in this show, especially among the little-f family, have always blown me away. There is something just so incredibly authentic to them... it's great writing, but even more than that every actor knocks it out of the park, every time. The scenes at the guest house in this episode are some of the best of those, in a long list of great ones. There is so much said just with looks, body language, etc. I have never seen a show that has so many scenes where I can "see" what a character is thinking, rather than being told what they're thinking through dialogue. Also I am 100% with you on the foreshadowing. Originally, watching the last couple of seasons at a rate of one episode per week with a ten-month break in between 6a and 6b, I think there were a lot of subtle things that I missed or failed to put together. The first time I marathoned the series after I had it on DVD though, I thought there were a ton of things that foreshadowed that final scene.
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# ¿ Mar 16, 2020 01:21 |
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Also from this episode, I love the irony of Bobby's reaction to the Quebecois story: "Take a child away from their mother? What kind of person does such a thing?!?" ...when a couple of days later, he's taking the child's father away, permanently. About the white shoes, I did notice this in a couple of episodes recently on a rewatch. But I still didn't catch just how many times we see white shoes until I read these examples. Interesting.
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# ¿ Mar 16, 2020 02:08 |
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BrotherJayne posted:That outro has so much menace, it's nuts. Yeah. I was stunned when I saw that for the first time. It just inspires such a feeling of impending doom. I had never heard the song before that, but still today I feel the same way every time I hear it again.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2020 09:59 |
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Ishamael posted:and the message of the show came into focus: people don't change. This is my ultimate takeaway from the show, also. Look at the final episode; after all this poo poo everyone has been through for the last eight years, no one has really learned anything, and they are all on more or less the same paths they were on in the beginning.
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2020 20:57 |
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BiggerBoat posted:"I could write my memoirs" Christofah was my favorite character on the show. This came about because Imperioli is about my age, Chris is about Imperioli's age, and for whatever reason I kind of identified with the character due to him being close to my own age. We had very little in common other than that, but Imperioli's acting and the writing they did for him was just brilliant. It was "mook is dumb" a lot of the time but there was a breadth to the character that was always entrancing for me. I remember being SO pissed when Tony killed him. I fully realized the writers had been in "these are really bad people" mode for a long time, and the closer it got to the end, the more apparent this was. Just the same, I was pissed and to be honest, hurt, that Tony did 'im like that. With the benefit of years of distance, multiple rewatches, and this thread, I realize today how much sense it made for Tony to do that. And I will always think of their hug at the end of "Stage 5" as one of the most chilling moments of the whole series. BiggerBoat posted:I swear to god, the more we talk about it and the more I read these awesome write ups, the central theme of this show seems to be that nobody really changes and only half of them even try. Said it before recently, I will say it again. This, to me is THE central theme of the show.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2020 06:10 |
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Bip Roberts posted:Is there any different on how Henry Hill's ratting is viewed because he wasn't made? Michael Franzese is a guy who was pretty high level in the Columbo family who just walked away from it one day. There are several interviews like the one I just linked on YouTube that are worth a watch.
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2020 06:24 |
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Jack2142 posted:1. As far as he knows Tony helped murder his brother and tried to cover it up. Ah! Seeing it listed like this sheds a different kind of light on it, for me. This list, combined with "No more, Butchie... no more".
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2020 06:58 |
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It was a pygmy thing... glorified crew.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2020 10:31 |
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BiggerBoat posted:I'd say it was more to do with his prison experiences. "You get a pass for that". He did a lot of time. It is a shame that we never got to learn just how much time Phil did.
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# ¿ May 1, 2020 02:29 |
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banned from Starbucks posted:The Colombo family is still called that even though Joe's been dead 40 years. This reminds me of a time early on in the series where Meadow was being a wiseass, and started reeling off the names of the NYC families in front of Tony, Carmela, and AJ, I believe it was. I wish I could find a clip, but I don't remember which episode it was. Do any of you remember it? It was kind of odd because she used the actual, current, real-life names for like three of them, and used the original names for a couple. Like, she used the original "Profaci" instead of "Columbo". And I don't think she mentioned Lupertazzi at all.
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# ¿ May 3, 2020 21:28 |
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Bip Roberts posted:Do mob families even have official names (as opposed to names in the press or law enforcement) since they aren't exactly official organizations? They've been wiretapped referring to themselves as "Gambinos", or referring to other families as "the Luccheses", etc.
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# ¿ May 4, 2020 03:26 |
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Vichan posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d2RlyAz6VQ
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# ¿ May 7, 2020 08:19 |
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Am I the only one who laughs out loud at that scene every time? There is something just so over-the-top there, and it has to be intentional
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# ¿ May 7, 2020 09:09 |
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e: wtf was I thinking
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# ¿ May 9, 2020 12:11 |
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BiggerBoat posted:Well, Ray Liotta died at 67 He was indeed considered, and I believe they offered him the part, if I recall correctly! He wanted to do movies and didn't want to lock himself into what he thought at the time would be a two-year commitment.
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# ¿ May 27, 2022 00:40 |
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I’m afraid I agree. I expect some “hey, remember on Sopranos when we talked about a thing that happened in 1966? Well now you get to *see* it happen!” moments, as well as a lot of “hey, it’s young Silvio!” type moments. But when the movie is literally nothing but that strung together by an insipid plot, some poor acting, and the whole film even just looks ugly… ooof, madonn’.
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# ¿ May 28, 2022 00:26 |
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Hey T? Didja hear what I tol’ ‘em? I said ya muddah was selling’ blowjobs at the Eiffel Tower.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2022 05:44 |
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Heh heh heh.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2022 05:44 |
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*mean face* Who the gently caress ya been talkin’ ta?!
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2022 06:23 |
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Couple of the things I always think about when I think of Paulie is the gesturing/pointing he did with his pinkie finger, and that ridiculous alteration he had made to the Pie-Oh-My picture. “Dat ain’t no lawn jockey! Dats a General, T!”
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2022 21:25 |
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If only.
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2022 05:56 |
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BiggerBoat posted:I give the prize for best ending to Six Feet Under Definitely an all-timer.
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2022 02:43 |
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# ¿ May 11, 2024 11:07 |
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Your Gay Uncle posted:You can see what happens in Sons of Anarchy when there is no one telling him no.His wife singing entire songs multiple times a season, people being drown in a bathtub of pee and a school shooting or two. I quit watching SoA immediately when they went to Ireland, and it sounds like I stopped not a moment too early
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2022 05:53 |