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Don't know if y'all have talked about "Remain in Mexico," but what is essentially happening is asylum seekers are barred entry, told to stay in Mexican port towns awaiting a hearing, so they sit around in cartel land waiting to: a) Be kidnapped and/or murdered by the cartels b) Be forced to use the cartels for trafficking across the border c) Migrate "illegally" by themselves (sometimes a safer option, often times a fatal option) d) Be transported to Southern Mexico where they will wait to make the trek back up again e) Somehow be fine for several months even though they're poor and powerless, and then by the grace of god somehow get asylum status, wherein they get to live in a country that hates them This is a lose-lose for everyone except the American public. Now the poor brown people can die and suffer away from us, instead of rot in our prisons.  Don't worry though, this policy may end when Trump's buddies have built enough prisons to house them. Then he'll likely let them back in and increase DHS detention quotas.
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Frijolero posted:Don't know if y'all have talked about "Remain in Mexico," but what is essentially happening is asylum seekers are barred entry, told to stay in Mexican port towns awaiting a hearing, so they sit around in cartel land waiting to: When people are fleeing to the United States for fear of their lives to only deterrent is to threaten their lives.
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I can't wait for the "technically you need x bodies per y cubic feet of dirt for it to count as a mass grave" pieces that the media will uncritically put up in order to seem unbiased and not lose access.
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Anne Frank died of typhus.
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Pope Guilty posted:Anne Frank died of typhus. Typhoid annie
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Pope Guilty posted:Anne Frank died of typhus. I wonder what percentage of holocaust victims died from disease vs execution.
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gently caress. The stupid "service members abroad will not have their children be automatic citizens" is going to work exactly as intended. It's going to create a whole new class of resentment directed at immigrants. "I served my country and my children weren't citizens but just because they were born here those illegals are citizens?" It's gonna work perfectly
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ikanreed posted:gently caress. good poo poo when the most cynical take is also the likeliest one to come true.
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ikanreed posted:gently caress. just when the military couldn't get worse
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Larry Parrish posted:just when the military couldn't get worse Yeah, what just clicked for me is the cruelty to chuds by Republicans is all about making them resent any government program that isn't even more cruel to the other.
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the hilarious neo-fascist authoritarian regime of Starship Troopers treated its soldiers and citizens better than we do, good god
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Bust Rodd posted:the hilarious neo-fascist authoritarian regime of Starship Troopers treated its soldiers and citizens better than we do, good god They believed in some form of collective good & social solidarity We dont
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Bust Rodd posted:the hilarious neo-fascist authoritarian regime of Starship Troopers treated its soldiers and citizens better than we do, good god never seen or read, did they manage to move past capitalism because if so ofc they did
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The movie is pretty clear that the main character is upper class and it seems pretty capitalistic but in a fascist way where its all war but class war
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that’s the point yeah, like it’s made pretty clear that the bugs where set up so they would have someone to fight
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The bugs were the Japanese, rio was Pearl Harbor, the drops were the island hopping campaign, the troopers were the marines of the pacific war for whom Heinlein had a huge boner.
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StashAugustine posted:The movie is pretty clear that the main character is upper class and it seems pretty capitalistic but in a fascist way where its all war but class war There's more aliens than bugs in the book and Earth fights an expansionist war against all of them.
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The difference is that in the book Earth was the good guys
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Kitfox88 posted:never seen or read, did they manage to move past capitalism because if so ofc they did Drop whatever you're doing and watch the movie right now
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If you haven't seen Starship Troopers you really owe it to yourself. Keep in mind that when this was made it was such a tongue-in-cheek satire of fascism that many critics treated it as a straight sci-fi action flick. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_7FaWnlhS4
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like the people who made the movie were like “we really don’t wanna make a pro-fascist propaganda film” so they took the bones of the book and turned it on it’s side. I’d recommend the movie but I would never read the book
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Prester Jane posted:If you haven't seen Starship Troopers you really owe it to yourself. Keep in mind that when this was made it was such a tongue-in-cheek satire of fascism that many critics treated it as a straight sci-fi action flick. The Daily Show had a review by Beth Littleford where she criticized it for being fascistic.
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the book is pretty fascist but I havent read it since i was a teenager. i dont really remember much besides the complete disdain Henlein had for commissioned officers who weren't previously enlisted, which is pretty rare for fascist sci fi authors. his take is that you can't be a leader without a deep understanding of how your subordinates live and think, kind of a weirdly egalitarian take to have in what is otherwise a book about how the strongest deserve the most resources
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That's one of the things people say to defend authoritarianism in good faith, bless their little hearts. In the real world psychopaths and hypocrites have an insurmountable advantage in fascist power structures, and the first thing they do is kick away whatever ladder justified their ascension. If Heinlein got what he wanted, his final words might have been "But the Maximum Leader really is a fatbody who never served!" and he'd be 100% right and 100% tortured to death.
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verhoeven likes to poo poo all over the book in interviews lol. to prepare for directing the movie adaptation he read like two chapters and threw it away
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paul_soccer10 posted:verhoeven likes to poo poo all over the book in interviews lol. to prepare for directing the movie adaptation he read like two chapters and threw it away awesome
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yeah. verhoven and carpenter should collab on the ultimate practical effects 80s blockbuster so i can watch it
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Real hurthling! posted:yeah. verhoven and carpenter should collab on the ultimate practical effects 80s blockbuster so i can watch it
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no ones talking about the 6 episode anime adaption of starship troopers from 1988 smdh
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Prester Jane posted:If you haven't seen Starship Troopers you really owe it to yourself. Keep in mind that when this was made it was such a tongue-in-cheek satire of fascism that many critics treated it as a straight sci-fi action flick. get it on dvd do you can listen to the directors commentary.
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ikanreed posted:gently caress. Honestly I thought it was just another petty dig at McCain (who's fuckin dead lmao) because he was born in the Panama Canal Zone
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Pepperoneedy posted:Honestly I thought it was just another petty dig at McCain (who's fuckin dead lmao) because he was born in the Panama Canal Zone it doesn’t make any sense. who does it apply to? also if the child is born on the base they’re born on US soil anyway. Donny half baked
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But if they're the child of a citizen, doesn't that make them automatically a citizen no matter where they're born? Isn't it in the constitution?
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Megillah Gorilla posted:But if they're the child of a citizen, doesn't that make them automatically a citizen no matter where they're born? Constitution being overturned by executive fiat isn't new.
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Larry Parrish posted:the Panama canal zone was straight up us territory I thought, whereas most military bases are just leased That changed in, IIRC 1999. We gave the canal back, after 100 years, as was the agreement.
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Larry Parrish posted:the Panama canal zone was straight up us territory I thought, whereas most military bases are just leased It was but it doesn't matter. You aren't thinking with Treamp brain and aren't remembering people have brought up the issue before back in '08 https://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/11/us/politics/11mccain.html I'm dead serious. It's because of McCain.
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