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 Final Fantasy 4: Free Enterprise is a Randomizer Romhack for Final Fantasy 4. If you've never played a "Randomizer" hack before, what they are is you use a program to shuffle about aspects of the game, well, randomly. They've become quite popular recently, in particular with a subculture in the Speedrunning community. Because a Randomizer means that you can't just memorize what to do and where to go. This particular Randomizer is, of course, based off FF4. It does three things, primarily: 1. It randomizes the contents of all the treasure chests. 2. It randomizes what character you recruit. 3. It randomizes the content of shops. There's more than that, it's actually a fairly extensive hack. But the nitty gritty details can be detailed in the LP. You can find the Randomizer here: http://ff4fe.com/make I'll be doing three runs in this LP. The first will be standard and mildly restrained, the second will be turning on some of the wackier settings, and one special seed which we'll come to when I get there. So let's get a playing! Dr Pepper fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Jan 24, 2019 |
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Seed 1 Part 1 - The Light of the Crystal Right before we begin I'm going to do what I always do. Namely change the color of the menus, I make a different menu color for each playthough. And we get to see the options! Random Encounters can be toggled on and off now. Most of the time they'll stay off. The other stuff is standard battle speed stuff, not going to deal with that. The game did add a dash like in later releases too. Again, it's going to just be on all the time.  And here's the New Game Screen. Down below is a list of all the flags that are used in this Randomizer. I'll cover most of what these flags mean when they come up.  And here I can rename the characters if I want before starting.  And I turn on Name Distinguishers here. What this means will come later.  Time to start the game. It looks like Porom is my starting character!  There's a very short cutscene at the start of play. The game removed most of the plot, which really wouldn't make any sense anymore what with everything getting shuffled. We also see our second starting character. So instead of Cecil and Kain it's Porom and Edward.  And then... Golbez? Remember how in the original FF4 Baigan gave Cecil a Carnet Sigil , AKA "Package"? Well since Baigan is a boss fight he is swapped around. So in the small cutscenes that still exist whoever is in Baigan's spot gives the player their first Key Item. This tells us that when we get to Baron Castle, we'll fight Golbez there. This is useful because we can prepare, and we know Golbez isn't anywhere else. Which is also good because he's a nasty boss fight.  And then we get our first Key Item... oh boy it's a big one. Now, "Key Items" are just that. Items which in the original FF4 didn't have any use beyond progressing the plot. So in Free Enterprise these are used to unlock areas and progress. This particular item, the Crystal, is what you would ordinarily get at the end of the game. It was used to reveal Zeromus's true form so you could fight the final boss. Getting it for free at the start of the game makes this run much more simplified. I need to find a way to get to the Moon, and then level up enough to beat Zeromus.  And then Porom and Edward... get on an airship?  And we're off for another adventure! If you want to play along with this very same particular game, go up to the website and where it says (Enter Custom Flag String Here) paste in the following text: code:code: So in Free Enterprise we start with the airship. We are right away free to go almost everywhere on the overworld.  Characters join your party at the level they join for the first time in the original FF4. They have the same stat growth and equipment items. Edward is sadly, still pretty bad by default. This isn't later releases which buffed him. So no TAY Edward where he was the best support unit in the game. He's not the worst character, you can still slap a bow on him and he'll do decent physical damage, but unless the RNG gives me a ton of stuff for him he's on the chopping block. Porom by contrast, is fantastic. She's one of the three White Mages you can get. Her Cry ability isn't any good but Twincast is always amusing. She has the ever useful cures, Haste, and most importantly Slow. Anybody who's gone deep into FF4 will tell you that Slow is the most powerful spell in the game. Every enemy can be hit by it and it's just busted with FF4's janky ATB.  Now, with complete freedom I go... back to Baron.  Stopping at Baron at the start isn't a bad idea. It has some items you can pick up around town, and you never know when luck will give you something good. Also, all the NPCs dialogue has been replaced with ether gameplay hints or jokes.  There's nothing particularly notable in Baron. Though now's a good time to talk about one of the flags. The "TG" flag takes all the junk items (low power potions, single status effect cures, etc) and just replaces them with their sell value in Gil. I mean, we're going to sell it all anways.  We also check the Inn. Remember that there was a boss fight in Baron where you rescued a brainwashed Yang? Well that's here now. Except instead of some guards we're going to be fighting Odin. And the character we recruit is.... another Edward. Yeah. You can recruit duplicate characters, I could make a whole party of Edwards if the game gives me enough of them. For now, we'll pass. But this will give us a Key Item (what used to be the Baron Key), so we might have to come back to this eventually. This is why Name Distinguishers is an option. So you know which Cid is which.  There's a Gold Apple in one of the chests. This ups a character's max HP by 100 and is very handy. Because we need the entire party to have 2K HP to win.  Our next goal is Mysidia. Why there? Well, remember how Cecil stumbled here and Palom and Porom escorted him to Mt. Ordeals?  Mysidia doesn't have any items laying around.  What it does have is two new party members.  Cecil is either the worst character, or one of the best. Dark Knight Cecil is bad. His stats are bad, his gear is hilariously limited, and he's basically a waste of a slot. If you go to Mt. Ordeals, however, Paladin Cecil is one of the best melee characters. He has fantastic gear options and nice utility. This is actually a tough choice if you're doing speedruning and racing, because you might not need anything Mt. Ordeals gives you. Since I'm not doing a speedrun, this won't be an issue. But I'll hold off on jumping straight to Paladinhood. Yang is a fantastic character to get early. He's very gear agnostic. Like monks in other Final Fantasy games his attack is based off his level rather than his gear. Which means he scales very well. He has absurd HP growth, and will hit hard. Getting him this early makes me think that he'll stay in the party the rest of the game unless Kain or Edge show up real soon.  While here I check the shops. They're also randomized. The Mysdian Armor shop has something Very Good. The Crystal Gauntlets, Paladin Cecil's best hand armor. I'll be back here eventually!  Now we skip the Mist Cave and jump straight to the Kaipo area. This is still a good place to start because there are quite a few characters and items to get.  Kaipo is a bust with items, sadly.  Then we check the house where Rosa was sick in back at the start of the game. Using the Sand Ruby we can recruit the character here. We see it's another Yang, so let's not worry about it.  Bit of a problem that.  The shop her in Kaipo has antoher good bit of gear. Bit out of our price range right now though.  With that out of the way it's down to the waterway! Where there are more chests and another character, where Tellah joined Cecil and Rydia.  And in it we found Palom! Palom is the best Black Mage in the game. He has the highest Wisdom stat of any of them, he learns spells the fastest, and can use Bluff to skyrocket his stats. He's staying in this party.  I also find the Samurai Bow. This is one of the better bows in the game, and can make anybody into a competent backrow attacker. It goes on Edward.  The Dragoon Shield is the 2nd best Shield in the game, and the best for Kain and Cid. Yet another reason to get Paladin Cecil as soon as possible.  Even the Summons you aquire through sidequests are shuffled around. If Rydia was in the party I could use this to teach her Sylph. For now, we'll see if I want to use her this run.  It's the Tiara! AKA: The Gold Hairpin. Top Tier female only headgear. Boosts Wisdom by 10, massive defense. The best Mage headgear in the game. It goes on Porom.  Soma Drops up a characters max MP by 10. Can be very handy.  Let's take down that boss!  Or not. You see, this is a one way path. This ordinarily isn't a problem in FF4. You'd dive down here, right the Octomammoth and move on with your linar game. But what would happen if, in Free Enterprise, you used the Hook to move the hovercraft to some random island. Then you landed and went through this waterway to this one way trip? You'd be stuck, the game would be unbeatable and you'd have to reset. This is called a "Softlock." So the developers just removed this path, if you want to fight the boss on the Octomamoth side just enter from the other way. And I've got to truck all the way back to the airship now.  Much better. You know, while it's not required the majority of the time let's take a look and see which boss took Octomamoth's place.  Wait is that...  It's Cagnazzo! We have a full party, let's beat him like this!   Err... Never mind. Now, the way Free Enterprise handles swapping around bosses is that they keep the script of the boss fight, but the stats of the boss they're swapping. So Cagnazzo has the stats of Octomammoth right now. Alas, even with Octomammoth's stats I'm not fast enough to zap the water barrier and Wave still does tons of damage.  Reload that save.  Off to Damcyan!  It's still bombed.  Oh har-dee-har. Nothing good in these chests thus far.  The story is the same here.  If only I could put the text box in the thread title.  Anna is still dead.  But instead of Edward we get... we get...   FuSoYa is the third "White Mage" we can get and the most flexible. Having both the full list of Black and White Magic, he's argably the best mage to get. Especially this early. Why is that? Well, remember, everybody joins at the level they did in the original game. This means he's level 50. FuSoYa is so powerful there's literally a setting in the randomizer to nerf him, cutting down his spell list and stats until you beat enough bosses. Sure, he's limited slightly by almost no stat growth, and 0 MP growth, but the pure flexibility he offers is second to none.  Once a 6th Person tries to join us we get this screen. Where we can pick who will leave, or even if we don't want to take the person we're recruiting.  Sorry Edward, guess you're not being made useful in this run! FuSoYa is just too good and you're the weak link!  I will take your gear though.  Let's go back to see how Cagnazzo likes FuSoYa.     Basically no Overworld Boss is going to be particularly difficult.  Nice. Best Arm Armor for Kain and Cid, 2nd best for Paladin Cecil  And then there's the Sorceror Robe. The best robes for Porom, incidentally enough. The only robe better than it, the White Robe, can only be donned by White Magic users.  Back at Mysidia I check the item shop. Tents are handy, and so are Star Veils. They give the user the Reflect status. Which is handy for some bosses. I sell some junk and buy some Tents.  And with FuSoYa and Palom in the party I decide that Rydia isn't needed this run. Bye Sylph!  Now I'm ready to take out Mt. Ordeals.  Oh, here's where Rydia is.  Enjoy the bench Rydia.  Mt. Ordeals has three boss fights and a Key Item. So what's the first fight we see?  It's Asura! Asura could actually be kind of annoying at this stage. We're fairly low leveled, and don't have a ton of access to Reflect to deal with her Curaja counters. I could do some janky stratagy of using lots of Moon Veils to handle that...  Or I could just use Flare and oneshot her with FuSoYa.  One minor quality of life feature for this hack is that if you gain multiple levels rather than just flash the "X Gained a Level!" Text box over and over again, it just tells you how many levels they gained.  In my Hubris I just rush ahead, and get back attacked by...  Oh, these guys. Uh, slightly tougher random encounters.  Quake oneshots them.  And we still get to see the boss fall off the bridge.   Now for the final fight.  Also, we get the "Package" which burns down Mist and leads to you recruiting another character. I think this will be the last real chance to change my party for this run.  And Cecil becomes a Paladin.  But there's also his Inner Darkness we have to beat!  So apparently Cecil's Shadow is Leviathan. Huh, who knew.  Oh no we've got hit by Big Wave and at such so levels it must hit like a tru-  Actually no. Big Wave does 25% of a characters Max HP in damage. So it's not an immediate threat.  Also, still an early boss. Thundaga oneshots it.  And with that we have Paladin Cecil, and any Tellah's will have their full spell list and Meteor. Next Time: We burn down Mist.
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This looks interesting. I'm pretty amazed at the amount of changes they've implemented to the code alone.
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Free Enterprise is kinda crazy because it's like the kind of game I'd make when I was 10 and didn't understand variables or scripting in RPG Maker. Except good.
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Free Enterprise is amazing, and I loved playing through seeds and seeing what chaos popped up. I even did dumb gimmick runs like solo Edward and a run where my only damage was the Kamikaze (aka Self-Destruct) item. That said, they've apparently changed a lot since I last played, I'll have to give it another whirl soon!
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I gotta say I'm loving all these randomizers coming out.
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Jan 24, 2019 00:35
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FuSoYa's Nuke reminds me of the time I realized RandArea in FFVI rando can become Kafka's Forsaken. Good times, good times.
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Cool. I'm in the immediate future going to be running the steam release of FF4 in the megathread funny enough. Can't wait to see the shenanigans to come!
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Moreso than the AGDQ race, these two text boxes have made me interested in this.
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Dr Pepper posted:
Is that all Cecils/Tellahs in the active party, or all of them everywhere?
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ultrafilter posted:Is that all Cecils/Tellahs in the active party, or all of them everywhere? All of them. Any Cecils available for recruitment will now be Paladin Cecil.
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I never realized just how often your party changes in 4. This is going to be an interesting read.
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Some turnip farmer named Cecil wakes up in his bed tomorrow suddenly a Paladin.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Moreso than the AGDQ race, these two text boxes have made me interested in this. Every single text box in the game's been redone. Some to give advice, some to be funny-- most of it, I think, is genuinely so, but I'm biased for being pretty deep in the community. YMMV, but I feel like at worst you might be 'idgi'. That said, I fuckin love Free Enterprise and if anyone has any questions about how anything works, I'd be happy to help out. And the discord is, I swear to god, actually honestly good. And super queer.
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mateo360 posted:I never realized just how often your party changes in 4. This is going to be an interesting read. It's basically a giant revolving door for a huge chunk of the game. It gets pretty silly at times.
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Part 2: On the Edge of Disaster The Mist Cave is another place that racers rarely check. It has a boss fight and a small handful of chests, but no Key Items. However, if a racer is stuck they might check the cave and some other places (like the Waterway) to see if the Mist Dragon is there. Beating the Mist Dragon kills Ryida's mom no matter where it is, and on some settings this will lead to a Key Item. This particular seed isn't one of those, but it's good to know for the future.  Since we're not doing a speedrun, I go here anyways.   And now we face Gnay, Yang's Mirror universe counterpart.  I don't even spend any MP, just mash Attack until he dies.  Oh boy is it worth diving in here. The Crystal Armor is the strongest armor in the game, and only Cecil here can equip it. There's one minor downside to it but overall it's a great upgrade.  Let's check out Mist now.   So if you select the "-huh" flag it does not, sadly, add Ceodore into the character pool. Instead what it does is pick a random sprite to take the place of the Bombs when the Carnelian Signe- err Package opens.  And now that we've burned Mist to the ground we can see that taking young Ridya's place is... Edge! Like I said seeing Edge or Kain early is the one thing I'll drop Yang for.  Titan does not want us to use Edge.   Yes we get to go through the sequence where Mist is cut off and Porom drags an unconcious 20 year old man to an inn in the middle of the desert.  The game moves the airship, so no softlocks for us!  And then Porom slowly walks into the Inn.  Titan isn't the only Summon who doesn't want us to have an Ninja.  Bahamut is more of a gimmick boss in FF4. All he does is countdown from five, and when he hits zero uses Megaflare.  Of course, when he has the stats of random Baron soldiers that doesn't really come up.  And Edge joins us! Now, I did say that I might switch Yang out, but I'm not sure about that yet. It's still pretty early. So I'll hold off for now.  Now, if you dismiss a party member, all is not lost! If you set the -rescue flag when you generate a game then any party members you dismiss will be pickupable over in Misydia Tower, just like in FF4 Advance. Even the dupes, so you can have a tower filled with Yangs.  Now I use my Soma Drop on FuSoYa. He never gets any more MP from levels so any more of these I find will alos go to him.  No reason to go to Mt. Hobbs. I have a full party and there aren't any Key Items there.  There is, however, a reason to go to Fabul. Multiple Key Items can be gotten here, but right now there's just one available. The fight where we defend the Crystal from Golbez's soldiers. Only who knows what it will be now?  Head up to the Throne Room and he'll ask you to start the fight.  And now we'll deal with whatever comes!  Fresh out of Magnet Cave, it's...  The Dark Elf. Midtier boss.    Throws a bunch of AOE 2nd Tier Magic at you.  Still vulnerable to being blasted by higher tier magic.  Then his second form is also taken down fast.  Porom learned Berserk. This is an important milestone.  After winning that fight we're taken to the King of Fabul. Who gives us a Key Item. In this case... oh darn it.  Its the Hook. Ask any Free Enterprise player about "Hook Seeds" and you'll get some anger.  A Silver Apple, like Gold Apples but half as good. 50 more Max HP.  The Hook is unique amongst the Key Items. This is the only one that doesn't take up space in your inventory.  What it does is allow you to take your airship and pick up the Hovercraft. This unlocks two new areas. Tail Cave and Elban Cave. So what's the problem? Well, the problem is that this means that the logic is probably making life harder for you. FF4 Free Enterprise has 3 stages generally. There's the Overworld Stage, where you comb all the open spots to find a Key Item that let's you access the Underworld. Then you hit the Underworld Stage, where there are several more Key Items and generally better loot in treasure chests. You comb the various areas in the Underworld until you find a Key Item that lets you reach the Moon. Once you are able to reach the Moon, you go through remaining areas until you find the Crystal if you haven't already, and beat the game. The issue with the Hook is that it's one of two items that let you reach the Underworld. The other is the Magma Key. Like all randomizers Free Enterprise is set up so that unwinnable seeds aren't possible. So no Key Item will be hidden behind a part of the game that requires that very Key Item to access. Since both the Magma Key and Hook let you reach the Underworld, the randomizer has no problem blocking access to one with the other. To reach the Underground with the Hook you need to grab the Hovercraft, take it to Elban Cave, clear that, clear the Tower of Babil which requires two boss fights, and then you get Underworld Acess. To reach the Underworld with the Magma Key you fly over to Agart and use it on the Well. The Magma Key is much faster than the Hook. So when you're doing a race and you find the Hook you're stuck in a bad situation. Do you go to the Underworld now. Which uses up a lot of time. Or comb the Overworld looking for the Magma Key and taking the quicker path. But remember, since you've found the Hook it's quite possible the Magma Key can't be found on the Overworld. And your opponents are making the same choice, and you have no idea which might be the right one.  So yeah, Hook Seeds = Bad Seeds. Of course, I'm not doing a race so it doesn't really effect me at all! In fact, since I'm not doing a race I see no problem with looting Elban Castle to see if there's anything good!  I actually kind of dislike this place because I can never remember where all the hidden passages are, but it has some good stuff usually.  Left Tower's a bust.  And this chest is trapped! The Tr flag means that the locations of trapped chests will also be shuffled around. However, they'll be shuffled around in the same area they are in the base game. So no surprise trap chests in say the Mist Cave. Most of my party is pretty underleveled for this area but I have FuSoYa to handle th-  Oh wait. I forgot, Mad Ogres are some of the Trapped Chest Monsters here. And they're magic defense is high enough that they're basically immune to magic damage.  I try to Slow and Stop them. Slow hits, Stop doesn't.  I also slap these Charm Claws I picked up on Yang. Fun fact, Charm Claws do bonus damage to Giant enemies. Mad Ogres are Giant enemies.  Not bad, but we can do better.  Open the Bloodgates    Porom and FuSoYa cast Berserk and Haste on Yang. Berserk is crazy powerful in this game. When physical attackers don't have a ton of things they need to do beside hit Attack, just making them do that, with a damage bonus, and no menu lag, means that they're going to be massively more effective.  Yes, Yang is now doing double the damage he was doing previously, and faster. This, incidentally, is the downside to Cecil's Crystal Armor. It makes him immune to Berserk. I usually use him as my item user but if you want to have him do Big Damage too maybe put something else on him. Unless you find the Avenger...  Needless to say thanks to my knowlege of game mechanics letting me punch (  ) well above my weight class I clear through these guys quickly. Man the award was not that worth it. Well, other than the jump in levels.  Only other interesting thing in the Throne Room area. An average spear for Kain, if I get him.  The next trapped chest...  ...goes down a lot faster.  A much better reward though! The Crystal Sheild, best shield in the game. For Cecil only.    The Power Sash is the second strongest cloth armor in the game. This makes it Yang's best armor. In the main game this is a drop from Behemoths, and we all know how awful getting drops in FF4 is.  It's also, amusingly enough, the first upgrade we get for Yang's armor slot.  Nothing else of interest here.  So down to Elban Cave we go!  Siren's automatically trigger the area's rare random encounter. This is generally what racers use when they want to actually fight random encounters. It's faster, and the rare encounters give more EXP.    Oh nice. The Lustrous Sword is a nice upgrade for Cecil, being the best Knightsowrd that doesn't require some side quest in the main game.  Cecil is now hitting stupid hard.  The Elban Cave shop doesn't have anything useful, but it's a shop and I can clear my junk out.  Great logic there pal.  Hook seeds worst seeds is canon.  As the Guy Who Likes After Years I have to say to this: lol no. Do you have party wide haste? Did you join Edge in clearing the entirety of the True Moon like I took the Elban Four once? I don't think so.   The Fairy Rod is the second best Rod in the game. Palom gets this. It's also the first upgrade I've found for him.  Dr. Luage has taken Rubacante's spot and is beating up AyOsUf.  We don't need two of them, not when we have Palom and Porom.  Porom spent hours waiting for a group that wanted to play with her WHT/NIN build and so she's going to have fun with it.   It's Mad Ogre 2: Now there's four of them. I can use the same strategy as the last time.  Except Yang's leveled up since then so he does a fair bit more damage.  Enough to oneshot them.  And just like last time it's only worth it for the EXP.  Right, here's the first boss and-  Oh no. Wyvern is one of the many optional bosses that can be fought in the Lunar Subterenne. It's like what would happen if Bahamut decided he didn't like you. It starts with firing off a Megaflare. Which you usually can't do anything about and thus for the vast majority of the boss fight slots you can find it in it just makes you screwed over.  Well, it would most of the time Wyvern is such an obscene roadblock it's accounted for in the Randomizer logic, with by default it not be allowed to block the path to the Underworld. This is an exception. If you put down the -whyburn flag it flat out disables the Wyvern's opening Megaflare. But I decided to select the -whichburn flag, which instead randomly swaps it with a different attack. Which usually isn't as bad. In this case it's not. Party wide gradual petrify is nothing major.  Of course, that still doesn't make Wyvern easy. Especially since it's tactic after the opening shot is to cast Reflect on itself and then reflect Flares at you.  Needless to say I wasn't fast enough to counter that, and had to reset to try the fight again.  This time, I'm a bit smarter about it, and turn Wyvern's tactic against it. Video Link   If you'll recall, this is where we got to meet Edge's Parents having been mutated into horrible monsters. So Wyvern is using their stats, which means a very low magic state. But Flare is still flare, and this is the higher end of the damage rolls.  At least you got a Bio off Palaom  FuSoYa's reflected Flares hit a lot harder, and it goes down.  With Wyvern down, we already knew that Dr. Luage would be taking Rubicante's spot. But like in the main gain Edge learns Flood and Blitz here and we get our HP and MP restored.  He is not as hard as Wyvern. The first phase gets two shot by two Flares from FuSoYa and a Quake from Palom   And then the second phase just takes a Flare and Bio.  And then we fall down to the Underworld.  Free Enterprise adds this little spot so if you decide you're not done with the Overworld yet you can jump back. But I'm done for now.  And here we see that Antlion has taken the place of where Dr. Luage would be, complete with Dr. Luage in a canon bending cameo.  Down to the next airship we go! This is the one with a drill on it.  Welcome to the Underworld! Now, before we move on there's a question I got to ask. We did find Edge, and Kain might be nearby. So I think the party is mostly set, except for that one slot. It's time for Goons to vote, because nothing encourages an LP more than voting! Do we keep Yang, or go for Edge, or Kain? This is the only interactivity this particular Seed will have! So choose wisely!
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I'd only go for Kain if you start pulling some good items for him.
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Yang for fists of justice and to tear apart elemental and other weaknesses.
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Keep Yang!
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Yang has been far too helpful to betray him like that. He stays.
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Keep Yang.
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Kain!
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Keep Yang. He was always my favourite and it made me sad that he got replaced. Sure, Edge has those all-hit elemental attacks, but why bother with those when you have actual black mages with actual useful spells? Ninjas are cool but monks have always been one of my favourite FF classes.
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Edge More spells more better
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kain gets Avenger access and is better because of that.
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Sitck with Yang!
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 Haste is actually nearly useless with the way the ATB works in Final Fantasy 4!This is really weird if you're coming to the game from, say, playing a lot of FF5, where Haste is the king of all status effects. But the ATB in 4 works very, very differently. Agility and agility manipulation is super complex (races and runners will talk a lot about 'anchoring' but that's not super relevant yet), but as far as haste goes, the gist is that, as it's implemented in 4: the primary concern is not how fast your turn comes up, but how quickly you can input commands. Because of the way it calculates turn order, haste can at most give you a 33% speed increase, relative to slow, which will go as high as a 50% reduction. In practice, you won't often see a hasted person get more turns very often at all. (Agility and the ATB in FF4 is interesting because we're literally still learning now how it works-- some of the latest discoveries are only a few months old.) Berserk, on the other hand-- bypassing the turn input will generally at least double your turn output, in addition to doubling your melee damage dealt. (haste and berserk can cause weird targetting issues when combined; there's no appreciable benefit to stacking them together). And because I love Kain let's hold out for him...
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So it looks like Yang won, and a good thing too. Because, uh Expect Monday to have the end of this seed?
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Good, Yang deserves to go to the moon at least once. Edge and Kain have their fun in vanilla. They ought to be satisfied. I'm impressed by all the little things the devs do to keep the player from falling into an unwinnable state. I imagine there's a lot of careful thinking, playtesting, and angry messages from players involved in the process. Definitely not the fun parts of making something like this. ArchWizard fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Jan 26, 2019 |
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...puff... Okay, I laughed at that. Such a silly little joke but it got to me for some reason.
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Jan 26, 2019 22:57
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Blaze Dragon posted:...puff... That's from the original US translation. They didn't add the puff. They retained the puff.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:That's from the original US translation. Huh. Well I only played the GBA one so I'm not surprised I missed that. I guess the credit goes to the original translators for that one then!
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Jan 26, 2019 23:21
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What kind of sick freak puts three mages in a party?
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Jan 26, 2019 23:27
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The canon endgame party has three mages in it if you count Cecil and Edge as half each. And before that you're lugging Fusoya's rear end around in place of Kain.
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Jan 27, 2019 00:14
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Rabbi Raccoon posted:What kind of sick freak puts three mages in a party? Wait for it... 5 Edwards.
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Jan 27, 2019 00:52
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Sketchie posted:Don't worry, in one of the seeds in the future Dr. Pepper would have to deal with... The most powerful seed, every character is an Edward.
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Dr Pepper posted:
Didn't expect a FFXI joke today. Maybe that means Palom is a WAR/WHT?
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zeroskippy posted:Didn't expect a FFXI joke today. Maybe that means Palom is a WAR/WHT? Palom does not concern himself with things like Subjobs
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