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Feb 12, 2005

Don't worry, I'll give you a sign. The sign will be that life is awesome

Farm Frenzy posted:

ppl make fun of gen xers for not impacting the world but weve spent the last 20 years being forced to endlessly relive their childhoods

I feel like you're sort of right but it's not really our gen x childhoods you're being forced to relive. Yes there are a few 80's nostalgia pieces around but I think in reality American culture is stuck somewhere between the late 90's and 2001 and it hasn't really moved a whole lot since then. And because it's America it just gets more refined and more intense. I think 9/11 stunted everything and we are never going to be able to move past it as a society.

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Local Weather
Feb 12, 2005

Don't worry, I'll give you a sign. The sign will be that life is awesome

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

The end of the Cold War dropped American culture into a weird kind of stasis because capitalism is evil and will kill the world, but Americans can’t imagine an alternative to it.

I agree. In the mind of everyone in America 45 and older there is simply no alternative to capitalism and in fact the more extreme the capitalism the better. It's weird to think that the Cold War may have actually been a moderating force in American society.


SickZip posted:

im extremely skeptical of claims that 9/11 actually changed the trajectory of America as opposed to 9/11 itself being just another symptom of the same underlying process that hollowed out American culture.

Of course it's impossible to say what the present day would be like without the 9/11 event but it seems like that really broke a lot of people's brains and really instilled a deep fear into the American psyche unlike anything else ever had.

Local Weather
Feb 12, 2005

Don't worry, I'll give you a sign. The sign will be that life is awesome

Carl Von Awesomwitz posted:

Hogan's Heroes is actually real good:

1. Transnational allied team of imprisoned heroes including a POC and a Frenchman.
2. White Russians depicted as sensual trash.
3. Lots of jokes about burning down german cities via firebombing.
4. Col. Klink is the perfect image people should have of Prussian officers.
5. Actually a ripoff of a Billy Wilder movie, and a pretty good one too.
6. British officers are shown to be morons.
7. Useful tips for our prison comrades.
8. Hogan in real life was a sex pervert, that isn't good, but funny.
9. Klink lives in fear of soviet justice.
10. Lovable Sgt. Schultz was a social democrat and toy factory owner before the nazis. Both social democrats and anti-social democrats will find that depiction to be accurate. The episode where he becomes commandant is a chilling tale of how power corrupts.
11. Erudite fan theories about Col. Klink being a secret allied master spy to keep fans mentally acute for struggle sessions.
12. Eleven episodes about stopping V-2 rockets entertains and educates. Hogan did more to stop the blitz than the whole eighth air force.
13. The inaccurate depiction of a show as a "laugh riot in a concentration camp" has faded from public memory as everyone completely forgets that the show existed.
14. Hogan shown to be a caring and skilled lover towards Klink's secretaries, while Klink is depicted as a typical incel not wanting to date on his level.
15. Literally better than the second season of Man in the High Castle (loving nazi time tunnel that's dumb gently caress you amazon)
16. All the Nazis were played by Jews, proving that people in the 1960s "got" identity politics.
17. They made a holocaust porno on the same set lmbo.

Thanks for this thoughtful breakdown of a weird show. Don’t forget Bob Crane (Hogan) was murdered and even though there was an arrest and trial like 15 years later the suspect was acquitted so his murder remains unsolved.

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