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Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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Every time I start thinking about the implications of climate change I have to stop because as much as I think that we all sort of deserve to die the actual-factual breakdown and dissolution of human society will entail a ton of pain and horror. And y'know, the idea of that just sits at the back of my head buzzing around like flies on poo poo almost every day.

When I was a kid driving outside of the city during the summertime meant that your car got plastered with insects. Now no matter where I drive, whether around my hometown or across the Canadian prairie, my car comes out clean on the other side. And I look at it and realize that we're going to die.

Anyway, trumo. What a guy!

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Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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J. P. Beagley posted:

I've considered therapy but I'm also worried about dumping all of the existential horror I experience on another person, even a trained professional. I'm sure they've "heard it all before" but I'd rather not chance pulling someone into hell w/ me. Irrational?

Therapy helps. And there are therapists who specialize in existential dilemmas.

Get therapy.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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Former DILF posted:

I also take insane umbrage at the smallest perceived slight and let it fester until I can figure out some really nasty and underhanded way to get back at them

but in my defense, when I was 7 years old I was an excellent reader so my dad made me read The Prince by Machiavelli and I internalized a lot of its teachings, especially all the stuff about deception and vengeance

Time to find a therapist.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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SunAndSpring posted:

It feels cool having a degree and being on a job search for five months that has brought no fruit because none of the rare good-paying jobs that utilize that degree have ever bothered to interview me because they want more qualifications, and all the other jobs that at least will pay for rent and food will occasionally interview me and then decide I'm too qualified to be working there and then not give me the job. It rules, I love having to rely on a GoFundMe to pay the rent for the next few months, I love that I feel completely hopeless as to getting a job within that short time period, I love that when I complained about this a while back in another thread on here all the alleged socialists completely ignored me save for like one guy who tried to help but was in the wrong area to do so, god I just love everything.

My girlfriend is going through the same thing. She finished her PhD in March of last year and the only job she can get pays her a pittance to do something that she's great at. She's already talking about going back to get a JD so she can apply her PhD to something that will let her live above the poverty line.

I don't even know what to tell you other than that it sucks poo poo and that my girlfriend and I are already talking about moving so that she can find something better. The capitalist world is a hellworld and I hope you find a place in it that doesn't hurt.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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Former DILF posted:

yeah probably but i live in america, nobody will look at me twice for being a scheming raptore

I live in the US and although I have my problems I'm not living in a constant state of overactivity and drunkenness to cover up my crushing depression anymore.

Therapy helps. Please think about it.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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Former DILF posted:

helps whom? is misery to cease when I am sated? will the world turn less cruelly when I want for little and settle for less still?

Can't answer for you. Everyone's outcome is different. But it's pretty obvious that you're in some pain and are tryin to reach out in this thread.

I can point it out and tell you to go get yourself some help. But only you can take the next step.

Open a new tab and just type in "therapists in [your area code]" and then maybe give one of them who looks good a call tomorrow?

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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oystertoadfish posted:

i had a therapist tell me to read that PUA book and told me to hang out with a PUA guy

and the PUA guy was... her son

honestly trolling/unwell dude you won't even know how to properly dislike therapy until you get some horror stories under your belt

This is a good time to mention that you should fire the gently caress out of your therapist when they pull poo poo like this.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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My first guy told me that my rage issues could be cleared up by joining an MMA gym and punching people.

Seeing as one of my problems was, "I can't stand the violence that I've done" that might have been an early sign that our therapeutic relationship wasn't going to fly.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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Salvor_Hardin posted:

I finally sacked up and looked up therapists in my area. Pretty much the moment I started reading the bios and therapy strategies I had an insane upwelling of nonspecific emotion and started crying so I think this is definitely a good thing.

I sent an email requesting an appointment so here goes.

Good job. I can't say that it always works out, but starting therapy really helped make life a lot more bearable for me.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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GF didn't feel like having sex after brunch this afternoon and that's how things started to go downhill with my ex-fiancee so after I dropped her off I went home and had a goddamn meltdown.

I called her after I calmed down and we talked a little bit about it and she reassured me but it's scary how an old trauma can cause me to go from "happy afternoon" to "self-hating disaster" inside of an hour.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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My girlfriend dumped me and I responded by dumping out all my booze and making an appointment to see a therapist and talk to a doctor about longer-term treatment for depression that I've been patching over with alcohol and sex for years now.

This is an almost alarmingly not-terrible response and I credit my friends with frog marching me into it.

Get help goons.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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Dumb Lowtax posted:

The condition of being "caught up with the forums" should be in the DSM-V

I would be dumbly proud if my posting was diagnosed as an actual disease.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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Turtlicious posted:

I posted cringey poo poo in the child abuse thread because I didn't realize what thread i was posting in lol.

e: which is why i would be a great mod.

I'm trying to conceive of a thread that's even more hosed than the cspam mental health thread and :smith:

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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I've been sober for about a month an a half. No cravings to speak of and I'm going to therapy but the depression is still slapping me around pretty good.

Recently I signed a purchase agreement for a new place and it's nice and it's where I want to live, but I'm kind of wondering why I bothered to do it at all. Moving into a new place and buying stuff to put there and spending money on it all just seems sort of like decorating a tomb for myself. It's not like I have anyone to share it with, so here I am working crazy hours to fill up a house full of poo poo that just makes me feel isolated.

The ennui of middle-aged, middle-managment assholes is as petty as it is real.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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Today I started on antidepressants.

It only took a full-court press from my friends, family, and both my psychiatrist and psychologist.

No, you're dumb and stubborn!

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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shove me like you do posted:

Woo so never had anxiety quite as bad as I'm having right now. My stepmon has called me like twice in the past hour because my dad went out to the farm and him and one of the tractors are missing, so her the neighbors and the sheriff are all out looking for him and I'm just sitting here staring at my phone waiting for a call.

Best of luck, goon. :smith:

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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shove me like you do posted:

So my dad is out of surgery, they had to remove some damaged brain matter from behind his right occipital lobe, and put a prosthetic piece in the occipital lobe. They cut him open from ear to ear over the top of his head and put some sort of spinal fluid drain in his head. He's gonna be sedated overnight and in the icu for atleast a week.

Edit: also holy poo poo the main lobby at this hospital has a TV on playing ads for medical devices. Just the sheer disconnect between helping people and profiting on suffering just left me gawking in the lobby for a minute

Best of luck. The fact that he's made it this far is a good sign, and I hope for his speedy recovery and rehabilitation.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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BENGHAZI 2 posted:

In the month I was probated I landed a job as an assistant manager at a gas station

The pay is better. More hours, more dollars per. I can take a position with overtime if I want when I finish training, which I'll probably do about a month ahead of schedule.

I hate it. I need to get out of retail. I have a civil service exam in November and I can't wait

I also came out, again, in that month so now I'm waiting to talk to my therapist in a couple weeks about me having a case of the trans and calling planned Parenthood to talk to them about informed consent stuff

If you have a clean driving record, a high school diploma, and no physical complaints to speak of it's pretty easy to get in at the Post Office. Union job that starts at $17+ an hour. Just hope you like OT because we're going into the holiday season and it's loving wild.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Yeah there's an opening for a city carrier assistant up now, one of their one year temp to maybe (probably) hire type positions. I was thinking of applying for that in case the civil service thing doesn't work out

Which, it should, it's entry level office assistant and the tests are piss easy and if I don't score so highly I get the first interview I should commit seppuku

Being a CCA is essentially contract-to-hire. I've only fired one CCA and that was because the guy just could not manage to learn the job, but we really, really hate to fire them because it costs $4000 to on-board every single one of them.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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Addamere posted:

so uh

I had managed being alcohol-free for a bit over a year til I went to a concern last month, whereupon I had 2 drinks in the attached bar while waiting for the venue to open because I'm a loser who shows up before doors open.

And since then I've had no cravings for alcohol, nor drank any.

Thinking of going to a goonmeet which in my city of course means going to some insufferable hipster microbrew artisinal tap room thing. The point is, booze.

idk why I'm even making this post

probably just nurse one cider while chatting with people

feels weird to have this fear of i guess "relapse"? when i never had any issue quitting or staying quit for as long as i wanted

i guess im just worried about making it habitual again?

for reference, i used to go through a handle of rum in a week when i was super deep into my depression and self-medicating and that was not a good time for me and it nearly destroyed my entire life so im spooked about it

idk someone gimme some perspective here am i overworrying about nothing or should i just be a square who orders soda

No. I get you. I was dry for six months and then I had one when Prince died and fell off of the wagon for a good four years. I've been dry since mid-July, and even though I'm not what I would consider an alcoholic I steer clear because I'm sick of hangovers and i want the new meds to work so I stop feeling sad.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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Jollity Farm posted:

Went and saw the man from the Work and Health programme, and answered a bunch of questions about myself, including about my mental health issues. The idea is that I get help from them to maybe try to find work within my capabilities, although I will have to wait to hear back from them before I know what else I'm going to get. Anyway, after that I was phoned by my housing association and arranged a meeting with them to discuss how things are going (next Tuesday). Then the electric company phoned up, but I don't know what they wanted, because I said I was too anxious to talk, and put the phone down. I don't know how the DWP think I'm going to handle a job, I'm so frazzled after today that I might need to go back to bed soon. I just needed to say that.

(you will say "get therapy" but I can't even think about talking to another stranger right now)

You did a good job talking to all of those people. Baby steps.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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Found out that the side-effect of missing my med for a day and a half is a whanging headache.

Good to know.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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i say swears online posted:

probably a good place to ask: what's the best gig economy app? i'd prefer delivery to ride-sharing since i'm too depressed to keep my car clean

I've had friends who worked for Bitesquad and didn't seem to hate it. Never tried myself though.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Speaking of therapy

To elaborate slightly she was horrified that I've never had my hearing looked into or my teeth taken care of

So if anyone has suggestions

I'm not the best at this. I never take notes and my method for keeping track of my medical appointments is to take my new appointment cards and set them on top of my fridge. But you can set the calendar on a smartphone to give you pretty much any reminders that you'd like.

And do get to an ear nose and throat person. No doctor is going to be willing to start you on any new medication if you have a raging infection in your head.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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Consummate Professional posted:

is it ok to not desire things like getting married or having kids? my little brother got engaged today and I feel sort of broken for being so averse to that.

I'm 40 and have just had a series of long relationships where I've never felt the need after the first engagement fell apart. Your dating life is extremely short and you should enjoy yourself as long as everyone involved knows the score.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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BENGHAZI 2 posted:

I'm trying to work up the nerve to wear my new hoodie and jacket to therapy this week

DO IT!

You didn't buy new things to hang them in a closet and never wear them.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Update I wore my jacket

Ar one point my therapist was asking me about like, what have I done/tried in this process so far, like have I tried switching up my wardrobe and what kind of clothes I wear? And im like my buttons are on the left, And then had to explain to her what that meant

She's trying really hard, she's genuinely ignorant of a lot of this stuff but not in a hateful way and she does want to help. It's kind of sweet how hard she's trying.

Proud of you for wearing your new threads out. I know it's tough for you to show that side of yourself and it's good that you're taking steps.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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In other news I've had two days off in a row (normally I work six days a week) and my friends have been either busy or out of town and being alone has reminded me of just how sick I still am. Give me a couple days off to rest and releive work stress and my anxiety and depression spike right back up.

It's a good reminder that my problems are long-term and that I should be careful about trying to overachieve and be "best patient".

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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Older bro is going to burn through all of the money unless he gets a handle on things. I would start there.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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Honest Thief posted:

he's finally trying to, but now he's afraid to trigger his brother into doing something drastic, since the money is on their mother's retirement account and she's got dementia, it's a legal mess to try and prevent him from just crashing and everyone else around him

He had better hire a lawyer and an accountant to figure the mess out.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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PsychedelicWarlord posted:

It has been five months today since my fiance dumped me out of the blue. I wish I knew I would feel totally okay again. It's definitely gotten better but lately I've been hit with horrible depressive moods. I am grateful that I am able to sleep again, with the help of a THC tincture that combats my restless leg syndrome. But often waking up and knowing a whole day is ahead of me, alone, is dread-inducing. :(

I've been there with the engagement break-up. Best thing that I can tell you to do is to keep occupied and exercise if you can. It's difficult but you will get through it.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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Doctor explained that being on meds means that I have to give up my favorite drugs.

I can stop taking ecstasy if it means that intrusive thoughts about suicide also stop, but gently caress me if it doesn't bite harder than knocking off booze.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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Frog Act posted:

I really want a day off, but if I take a day of PTO my parents will give me the stink eye and gently caress with me all day, despite having a real person job that gives me benefits so i can use them. it's kinda frustrating, i did literally thirty minutes worth of work yesterday because there's gently caress all happening here until the next deadline, so i'm just sitting alone in a fluorescent office wishing i was at home. i have 92.5 hours of PTO left so if I take Friday and account for the time I'm forced to take off for Christmas (three days) that still leaves me with a week for emergencies, but my parents have drilled it so deeply into my head that there's never a good reason to take off work besides physical illness or a major preplanned vacation that i get anxious thinking about actually doing it, but i also get anxious when i think about an uninterrupted march to the grave doing this for the rest of my life. maybe if i get an oil change or something that will make them feel like it's a "productive" enough use of my PTO to not bitch at me. i sure wish i got paid enough to just move out right away, but unfortunately i've traded what feels like 80% of my life for such a poo poo wage i can barely save anything.

on top of that my girlfriend has been dealing with some depression and anxiety and ive been trying really hard to make her feel better, but it hasn't always been enough and it's been kinda difficult. i had been excited for weeks to go see The Thing playing at a local theater, we had the plans all set, but she realized she had forgotten something for work and had a panic attack and we missed it because we had to go drive out to a store outside the city to get materials. i was mostly happy because taking care of it was able to allay her anxiety, and she's awesome and always recognizes when i go out of my way for her, but last night she was feeling insecure because i've been too nice and accommodating and it's a little :psyduck:. there have been a couple more things like that recently and i haven't complained because i know how hard it is to be depressed, especially without insurance or medication, but it can be a bit of a bummer when i'm already dealing with my own problems with my suboxone taper and depressing job. i've never been this happy with anyone even when she's having a bad day, but i just don't have any friends to talk to about this stuff so i wanted to vent for a second.

I manage people for a living and you are badly burned out and need some time off.

Take a long weekend and hang out with your girlfriend.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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SpiderHyphenMan posted:

why the gently caress do i post here.
should i just stop?

In the far future of the 21st Century there is only posting.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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I've been disappointed by people so it's pretty hard for me to reach out to them. Add to that the fact that I work about 60 hours a week and I'm usually too tired for anything outside of a cursory sandwich and fries in the evening sort of hangout.

I'm a bit lonely, but I don't see things changing anytime soon. At least I don't have a lot of the material troubles that other people suffer from and I can still spoil my idiot cat to make myself feel a little better about things.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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Government Handjob posted:

Honestly I should have done this a long time ago and I'm extremely sad I had to go through a breakup with a girl I'm wild about to get around to it.
But she's got her own poo poo to sort out and she's already thought it over long enough that there's no changing her mind without me feeling I'm forcing her into something she doesn't want to do - which is the last thing I want.

I'm horribly broken right now but I guess that will pass in the next weeks or months. Hopefully somewhere down the road I'm gonna get over my anxiety and fear of rejection enough that I'll be the one to start a romance.

I went through it in July. Starting therapy, getting on meds, and actually admitting to myself and to others that I have mental health problems and that I needed help was a good step forward. I'm still early in the process but things are already a bit better.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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BENGHAZI 2 posted:

I went to play magic. Social interaction with people who aren't my partner or my best friend is hard to judge but I think o had a good time. I'm going back next week for sure to trade some stuff

Also I wore my old boymode jacket because I'm not out to all of those people, who Ive known for years, and I hated it so much. I hated how it felt I hated how it looked, everything about it, everything it represented

Which sucked but it's just another reminder that I'm not just hallucinating this whole Doing A Gender thing and that I should stop fighting it

Your average FLGS is heavy with utilikilts so no one there is in a position to criticize your choice of jacket.

And it's good that you got out. Meeting new people can be good for you.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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BrokenGameboy posted:

But why have principles of there is no way to act upon them?

There is a way to act like a decent human being who believes in equity, community, and doing right by others. Our culture brainwashes you into feeling powerless unless you can personally act upon and change things, but it's many small things working in concert that actually make things better.

Start small. Maybe just get a grabber and a bag and pick up trash in your neighborhood, and if you can handle more maybe see if there are groups in your area doing things that you think are worthwhile.

Don't let the fuckers paralyze you and make you feel helpless.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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SunAndSpring posted:

I mean, god, I can't trust people anymore because I can't interact with them right. I mean, take for example this: I had what I assumed was a pleasant interaction with someone, had a chat and everything before getting them their stuff and on their way, and I thought nothing of it. Turns out, by not "acknowledging" them as soon as they walked in (since I was busy with something else), I had ruined their whole day, and every other little mistake made made them angry to the point of them going online to leave a poor review and calling customer support to get a full refund on everything. This results in me getting written up and just flat out threatened by the manager with getting my shifts reduced if I didn't shape up. How do I trust strangers after that, if they're willing to get me fired and ruin my life if I make them slightly uncomfortable? My life is just terrifying because of this, I don't know if someone is going to be mad or not because I barely understand them at all and I don't know what makes anyone tick. I mean, Jesus, even chatting with people online scares me because I don't loving know any of these unspoken rules and so I always wander into some scenario where I make myself look awful because I say something that makes someone mad that I had no idea would make them mad and then they start getting irritated with me and I escalate things because I start to get angry back since to me it doesn't seem justified, and then everything goes to poo poo. I don't know how to make this stop, I wish I didn't have this lovely burden of having to fix myself.

This was an example of a person who was working the system to get something for nothing. Their reaction had very little to do with you.

The way to handle it is to reduce the entire interaction that you have with customers to a series of checkboxes which cover everything that management expects you to do and to cover your rear end. You don't have to be, like, literally robotic, but it helps to think of them less as people and more as a box that needs to be stamped in a particular way.

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Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

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GWBBQ posted:

Is ... is this ... the specter haunting Europe?



Side note: is it normal to dissociate while doing astronomy and come to a few hours later, a mile away?

The spectrum of "normal" starts to stretch when you're high as a kite.

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