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twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
This is like the weightlifting thread but for your brain

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twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

crazy cloud posted:

david spade ]: i liked this hot take better the last time i heard it , when it was called pearl jamthe first noble truth

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
My own personal bullshit:

I'm mostly fine, but constantly stressed by work and financial issues, deadlines, money troubles.

A series of failed relationships and health problems made me pretty depressed a few years back. I tried therapy, which didn't really accomplish much. However, there is one lesson I did take away, which was advice that was given to me by a therapist: to prioritize creative endeavors more. It took me some time to adjust my life to it, but I now make sure to find time to make artwork or music, or elaborate cooking, or whatever I feel like doing that week.

I can not overstate how positive an impact this has had on my life. It has helped me express and understand myself, it has made me feel like I'm making good use of my life and accomplishing things. And it also helps me to clear out stress and emotions and the various cobwebs that accumulate in my brain. I have always been on the creative side, as are many of you, but before I didn't try as actively to facilitate and cultivate my own creativity, and at some point I started to view it as a necessity. In creating, I also build up myself, by figuring out who I am.

Overall it has given me some breathing room and energy and motivation, and that has helped me climb out of the depression I was in, and that in turn allowed me to focus on my physical health, which has improved significantly. I still have a ways to go before I become the ideal person I want to be, but I'm heading in that direction again and I hope all of you are too. And if you're not, I hope that we can help you do that, or point you in the direction of someone else who can. Hang in there, C-SPAM.

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Venom Snake posted:

iv struggled with thoughts about self harm for years but with no motivation to act on it due to be terrified of the consequences. like it's hard to express whats its like to get thoughts of "What would happen if I just threw myself off this high balcony" and then being scared of those very thoughts. I wouldn't describe my self as suicidal, or even self harming (like as before I haven't acted on it). unfortunately posting online anonymously is the only way i can talk about it because if i tried getting help it would p much destroy my life.

That is more common than you might think:

https://allthatsinteresting.com/call-of-the-void

If you can't get help elsewhere, it's better to post online than not at all, I guess. Why do you think trying to get help would destroy your life?

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

net work error posted:

How do you find a therapist that's a Marxist

New thread title

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
There are some online services now like talkspace and 7cups that try to provide online therapy. Some of them (at least talkspace) claim to have professional therapists and counselors working for them, and things like 7 cups are anonymous. I have never used them and cannot endorse them, but that springs to kind when thinking of how to get counseling on the DL.

Does anyone know more about these?

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
What are the chances that not getting help will interfere with your progress and delay you even further?

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N4jf6rtyuw

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
It's up to the therapist to determine their schedules and how often they see patients and whether they should be seen at all. To be altruistic is saintly but your needs are just as valid as everyone else's

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Zyla posted:

losing my poo poo and flipping out

Why

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
Good job, Salvor

And good luck!

:hf:

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
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twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
Reminder that you can be depressed and not realize it, because you don't necessarily feel sad when you are depressed, but you might

- have little energy
- little interest in things you previously liked
- little desire for social interaction
- changes in appetite either way
- general bleh

Depression can refer to emotional depression, but deep-seated depression affects your metabolism and other aspects of your psyche. At some point on the spiral into depression you may stop feeling sad, because your brain isn't even producing enough dopamine to feel a strong sense of sadness anymore.

If you feel this applies to you, please talk to someone about it

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

oystertoadfish posted:

healthy well adjusted brain: Mormonism

:thunk:

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

mekyabetsu posted:

Life is really kicking my rear end around lately. I often get these bouts of extreme physical weakness which I found out a few years ago are caused by iron-deficiency anemia. They inserted cameras into every part of me, because the usual cause for this condition is untreated blood loss. They couldn’t find anything, so they just sent me home with iron and vitamin C pills and told me to come back and get tested again in a few months.

It comes and goes, but when it’s particularly bad like it has been these past few weeks, just getting out of bed to take a shower can be so exhausting that I nearly pass out. I had to shovel my sidewalk this morning, and it took me about 5 trips to clear my little 50 foot section of sidewalk because I had to keep going back inside to lie down. Whenever I’m not working, I’m sleeping because I sleep 12+ hours a day now. The depression isn’t helping either.

As an American, I consider myself incredibly lucky to have a job that offers somewhat decent health insurance (after I meet my $3,500 deductible lol). Every single day, I get so much anxiety thinking about how hosed I’ll be if I lose my job, or my insurance company decides that I’m costing them too much money to cover. Then I get infuriated when I think about all the people who are glad that I’m in this position because it forces me to make money for my company’s owners. Sometimes it all gets to be too much, and I drink a lot or score some benzos just so I can forget about everything for a few hours. Fortunately, I’ve been doing that a lot less than I used to, but there are still days when it’s all just too much.

Sometimes I wonder how many people get married to people they don’t really love just because they’re terrified of getting sick and dying alone. I used to tell myself I would never do that, but now I’m not so sure. Going through serious medical poo poo without a single family member or friend to sit there with you is loving scary.

Also, I really, really want to get a kitty again so I’ll have some companionship in my dumb, lonely house, but I don’t know if I’ll be able to take good enough care of one. :(

I just needed to type for awhile. Glad the thread is stickied now. I hope everyone is managing as best they can.

A friend of mine when I was younger had anemia and it sucked, she looked like a vampire sometimes, and had these Victorian style fainting spells.

Have you tried getting more iron in your diet? It is of course worrying that you have the symptoms of someone who is losing blood, but perhaps it's actually an issue with absorption? In any case having a more iron rich diet might help alleviate some of the symptoms while they figure out what is happening?

There are various ways to add iron to your diet, and even just cooking more in a cast iron skillet is said to help.

In any case, it sounds very draining, good luck OP

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
An old injury flared up, immobizing me all week. I had been doing well, feeling good and pain-free for about six months, and now it's back to to being real bad all of a sudden. I had to cancel both weekday work plans and weekend social plans. Felt a jolt of pain today and dropped my phone, shattering the screen. Falling behind on work, and also feeling generally miserable and hopeless about the future. Very drained, low energy, demotivated and self-pitying at the moment.

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Aesop Poprock posted:

I just found out my first boyfriend got stabbed to death yesterday and I'm feeling all sorts of weird about it. A little panicky and fuzzy headed. I haven't really kept up with him since I was like 19 but I definitely wasn't expecting to scroll through google news and see him murdered. I somehow missed a bunch of snapchat messages from people telling me about it yesterday too so it was a little overwhelming opening them up and now trying to talk to everyone else who was a part or periphery to our friend group at the time

That sounds like it will take some time to fully process, and it is good to talk to people about your feelings

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
Pain sucks

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
Any side effects?

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Jollity Farm posted:

I have also been struck by how familiar the description of Avoidant Personality Disorder seemed when I first read about it. I have mentioned it to a doctor, but they said that there's nowhere in Devon that specialises in personality disorders (in case you were wondering where we are with the NHS and mental health - someone I know has said her daughter had to go to London for treatment, though I think that was a different condition, but I didn't want to be nosy). Though some people think AvPD and severe social anxiety are the same thing, and I have been diagnosed with the latter by Proper Doctors (also "some autistic traits" and "mild schizoid traits" according to one doctor several years ago) so I may or may not be one of those self-diagnosed weirdos people make fun of, depending on who you ask. Even the DWP doesn't think I'm fit for work, though, so there's clearly something there that other people can see.

Not to downplay your condition, whatever it may be, but are you familiar with psychology student syndrome? When I took a class in psychology I recognized almost every diagnosis as being applicable to me. That’s because they all exist on a spectrum and we are all somewhere along each spectrum. I think of myself as kind of aspy and schizoid as well, but psychologists don’t agree with me. We are all goons and thus certified as weirdos no matter what, but it’s importamt to talk to experts about this sort of stuff. They are experts for a reason and they have a much broader range of comparison than you do when looking at yourself. Worst case scenario of discussing thiswith am expert is what? That you are everything you already suspect? That you’re wrong and actually not psychologically damaged as you thought?

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
Took a week off from obsessively reading C-Spam and I feel better. Going to try to keep up the focusing on other things.

I read a study last fall about the amount of vitamin D we need to consume. It affected me a lot. To summarize, it concludes that there was a great miscalculation in the amount of vitamin D most people need to consume. The study calculated that we should actually be getting about 12x more than what was previously reccomended, and that some people need even more.

This really stood out to me, because I crave foods rich in vitamin D such as fish and mushrooms and dairy all the time. I long suspected I had a vitamin D deficiency. Particularly because I live in a very dark and cloudy country and a lot of my friends have been diagnosed with either vitamin deficiencies or Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) and I shared a lot of their symptoms.

In order to process the vitamin D you consume, your body needs to be exposed to the sunlight, and that just doesn't happen here as much as other places. It's always cloudy and dark especially in winter, and it makes a lot of people really depressed until spring. Lack of vitamin D is linked to SAD.

Anyway, when I read this study it resonated with a longstanding suspicion I had, and motivated me to buy vitamin D supplements, and I have been taking them all winter. I have to say that this was one of the happiest winters I had in a few years. I was still stressed out and and it wasn't exactly happy-go-lucky, but the deep brooding misery that I have felt in previous winters was noticeably absent. And now that the days are getting longer and I'm getting more sun I am noticing that it improves my mood a lot. If things keep going this way, I should be downright happy by summer!

That study seems to suggest that massive segments of the population have chronic vitamin D deficiency, which can lead to fatigue, joint and back pain, depression, and a bunch of other stuff which I suffered from myself, but now experience much less. I now suspect that the problem wasn't so much the lack of sunshine, but the lack of vitamin D in my body.

Maybe I just placeboed myself and the study is wrong but I'm gonna keep it up anyway. Eat fish, drink milk, and be merry!

Edit: I realize that human neurochemistry is very complicated, as is depression, and I'm not saying that eating vitamin D pills will cure your depression. Just that I have been doing it and it seems to help, but this is purely anecdotal and it could be a bunch of other things and idk what I’m talking about but it seems to help me in my particular circumstances :shrug:

twoday has issued a correction as of 04:26 on Apr 1, 2019

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
*cashes endorsement check from Big D*

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Consummate Professional posted:

he told me to diet/exercise/therapy/spiritual poo poo for two weeks then talk about meds.

Did you try this stuff? It can help a lot

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Consummate Professional posted:

today is day 0, I'm doing this in good faith. I'm not opposed to it

First of all, it’s great to hear that you are talking to people, to fellow goons, to a therapist, and a GP. These are good steps, and it sounds like you are on a path towards improving your life, and that’s always good to hear about.

Second, I am not qualified in any way to advise you about what to do, and those people are. However, I will just share my thoughts about what you said, just as a fellow goon and human being. Do with this information what you will:

The human psyche is complex. Our lives are complex tapestries of thoughts, actions, habits, and choices. What we eat affects our quality of life, as does our physical condition, and how we manage our thoughts and feelings. These little things, these little choices and moments are the bricks with which we build up the structure that is our life.

When we are in pain, we may want a painkiller that will relieve us of that pain, which is nice, but doesn’t address the underlying problem. If you have a broken limb, you can pop a pill and not feel the pain, but you are still going to need a cast and some time before you heal and feel normal again. And with psychic/mental/emotional ailments we can have the same temptation. “I feel bad, I want to take a pill that takes away my depression and anxiety.” Sure, sounds great, and there is nothing wrong with wanting to try that, or trying it. But the thing that you must realize is that while depression and anxiety are conditions in their own right, they are also often symptomatic of deeper underlying structural issues in your life that lead you towards choices and situations that make you feel depressed and anxious. For some people medication works like a cast, and allows healing, but for others it works like a painkiller, and relieves discomfort without actually helping the underlying problems.

There is a difference between feeling bad and wanting that bad feeling to end, and having a goal that yo7 are striving towards. You can say, “this sucks, I want my life to be something else” without specifying what, or you can say “this sucks, I want my life to be x, y, and z.” If you’re not striving towards specific goals, you are just aimlessly wandering and hoping to bump into a better life. It’s important to set specific goals.

A small exercise in imagination that I do from time to time:

Imagine yourself a year from today, living a better life than you live now. Imagine yourself healthy and happy. Imagine the best you that you can be in a year. Try to picture what that looks like. Where are you living? What do you look like? What sort of things do you eat? What is your job like? Your relationship? How many friends do you have and how often do you see them? How do you spend your time? What sort of hobbies do you have?

When I do this exercise, which I try to do every year or so, I imagine myself eating awesome food that I made, being in better physical shape, I’m expressing myself creatively, I’m going out to museums. I like museums.

I do that exercise and then I have this specific list of things I need to do to achieve the life I want. I need to cook, I need to exercise, I need to make artwork, I need to go to museums. If I want to live that life that I imagine, these are all very specific actions I need to incorporate into my life. For me, it’s been difficult and it has taken many years to retrain myself, but now when I feel bad, when I feel lonely or disappointed with my life, I try to distract myself, stop myself from entering self-destructive thought spirals, from beating myself up. I try to push myself into the kitchen and make myself cook, or push myself to go out to visit a museum, or those other things. That was hard to learn. Cooking was the easiest, I guess, because I always need to eat. So, I’ve come to the conclusion that exercise and good diet and meditation and creative expression are the building blocks of a happy life for myself. You have to figure out what activities will be the building blocks of your improved life, and figuring out concrete actions you can take to incorporate those things into your life.

If you want your life to change, these are issues that you are going to have to work through sooner or later, whether you are on medication or not. Maybe you are the sort of person who reacts well to medication, and it will help you to make these changes in your life. That’s for you and your therapist to find out. But you can’t be dismissive and say, “I’m gonna skip the diet and exercise part, and skip ahead towards taking the pills that help me improve my life.” Even if you take the pills, and you gain some strength to start improving your life, you will see that you probably need to improve your diet and exercise more to make the structural changes you need to live a better life. But it won’t do you any harm to start seriously thinking about those things already.

I’m not saying that you were being dismissive, or that you are skipping over anything, or doing anything bad by desiring medication. It’s fine. I’m just trying to put medication in context, I guess. A lot of people are disappointed by it in the long run.

twoday has issued a correction as of 03:28 on Apr 2, 2019

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
poo poo, that was way longer than I intended.

Meditation owns and I will rant about that in depth on a separate occasion, but in short I recommend that if your doctor is saying to try spiritual poo poo, try breathing exercises or mindfulness mediation. Buddhists and yoga folk do that stuff a lot, which makes it seem spiritual. Even if you don’t have a spiritual bone in your body, it is very effective because it’s just a way to manipulate your oxygen levels, heart rate, and other physiological processes that in turn help shape your mental state. Sitting and breathing and trying to clear your mind of all thoughts reduces your stress levels and isn’t necessarily spiritual. It’s an exercise, like pushups for your midbrain, and like all exercises, with enough repetition will make you stronger. But it makes your mind stronger. Anyway, if you’re looking for some spiritual exercises to do, look up mindfulness meditation or zen breathing exercises on YouTube and try some out.

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
I guess my goal in life is pretty much just to be more like this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMYVof9sTGk

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Ugato posted:

We’re all different; you have to find what applies to you and what works for you.

:hmmyes:

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
I dreamt I was happy and then woke up and realized I wasnt

lol gently caress

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
I found out I can get compensation if I do therapy for PTSD, and I'm quite tempted to do so

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May 4, 2005



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You can PM me too dolphin, I'm here to chat

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