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it's supposed to be fast, but it seems like a lovely gimmick right now? seriously there seem to be 5g nr (NEW RADIO) sub 6 GHz - terrible enough that they have to add the word 'NEW' to their name because otherwise it's pretty much the same as 4g or just a tiny bit faster if using similar downlink/uplink channel bandwidth it's also similar to 4g due to using similar frequencies below 6ghz ok you can bond a bunch of channels or do more carrier aggregation with it but why would you want to go with a less widely supported standard while consuming similar amount of channels and bandwidth for slightly higher speed? also lol if device makers will spend the big bucks to add a shitload of antenna on their phones when they can't be bothered to ensure existing 4g phones can do every single lte bands and of course the ultra high bandwidth 5g mmWAVE (millimeter WAVE) - the supposedly 'true' 5g that using 6GHz and beyond, sure you can finally stream your 8K porn on the go but just make sure there's line of sight, not even glass, between your dong and the microcell to avoid frame drops it also counts on the carriers spending all their money to deploy a microcell on every light pole while they can't dont even want to deploy fiber and lol @ the PR and marketing that keep on harping "you can now do REMOTE SURGERY ON THE GO" *still has 100ms ping* *ambulance goes over a bump and the robot arm guts the patient* lasty att is already making this into a clusterfuck by - renaming their existing 4g network with extra channels to 5g e (for evolution) while - still having a 5g nr network and 5g mmwave, the 5g nr will just be called 5g while 5g mmwave will be 5g+ apparently - releasing a $70/15GB/month dataplan for their 5g mmwave service that can be burnt through in about 2 minutes at full speed at the current rate of capitalism 4g seems like the tech we will be stuck with for the next decade or two, or am i missing something? coke fucked around with this message at 10:19 on Feb 13, 2019 |
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great news, i'll be at mwc in a week or so and i can do a special report on 5g and the foldfones supporting it just for this thread. i'm sure it will be more interesting than the op
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capitalism, op
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5g is mind control scary radios that will cook your brain and also give you alzheimers and kills the bees
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infernal machines posted:5g is mind control scary radios that will cook your brain and also give you alzheimers and kills the bees ddees dot com
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there's some nutjobs that endlessly retweet illuminati one world government 5g mind control bullshit using a local municipal politics hashtag. you'd be amazed what this new wireless "standard" will do!
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voted gently caress you since no checkbox poll
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it's marketing (lies), op
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DDees nutz
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hell yeah
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you see the normal 4g waves magically get more dangerous but a lot faster when they go 5g
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what's "funny" to me is you know a shitload of dumbasses think we gotta go big on 5G because it's the future and we have to get away from all this crufty old landline infrastructure, when in fact it sounds like it's going to be reliant on building out a shitload more ground infrastructure wow that's pretty artful for ol' dees there still got a soft spot for that one where the bandit is stealing sacks full of ron paul votes and the voting machines have HACKED ALERT MEDIA on them
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the main issue with 5g is that 4g is so freaking good, very hard to see the use. i use 4g for my home internet these days, solid 40 mbps, ~10ms latency, all rock-solid. the handful of meters of wifi at times involved is more trouble than the 4g.
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Hed posted:DDees nutz
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5G is GGGGG 5E:5F,5B!!!!!
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the fifth gee
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:the main issue with 5g is that 4g is so freaking good, very hard to see the use. i use 4g for my home internet these days, solid 40 mbps, ~10ms latency, all rock-solid. the handful of meters of wifi at times involved is more trouble than the 4g. my limited understanding is that 5g only has speed benefits when heavily using mimo on mm frequencies and that for the most part the 4g network could never be replaced by 5g. the kind of infrastructure density required for 5g means that it could only ever be deployed in cities where 4g has problems with cells being full so while 4g is definitely good enough for now 5g will alleviate the biggest problem with it which is full spectrum in dense areas i also have my doubts about the actual in building performance of carriers in the 24-40ghz range but given the range is only on the order of a city block for a given transceiver the sheer numbers of them is supposed to make that a nonissue either way lte isnt going anywhere
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how can we implement this faster?
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This Is What Boomers Actually Believe
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it's one more than 4g, op
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imagine 5 gs on the edge of the network
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lol before i even read the thread, i saw the title and planned to reply "it's a gimmick" yes, right now i believe it's a gimmick for sales. the tech it's still not there. we're still very much in the LTE (long-term evolution). companies in fear of having the meaning of LTE hinder their sales, attempted to redefine it as "users of the LTE network should see data speeds that are up to 10 times faster than the current 3G network" everything about this owns.
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As what appears usual for tech things, 5G is a gigantic bag of things that can be ridden like a marketing horse. AT&T already atop with "5G E" being regular LTE but they added more bandwidth to their network. So many news articles and "professors" are masturbating crazy about new speeds, which almost no one cares about. The new speeds are for metropolitan residents only, so those dialup modem rural lurkers are still no better. For many LTE is already faster than their WiFi and as long as YouTube and Netflix play with no pauses no one will notice, especially as like the slows times I see when reading Google News or whatever are basically due to regular DoS on new links and whatever agency being unable to scale up their servers. Hopefully it will lead to cheaper US data plans, but the high prices there are not really due to technology. The one big gain I see is that the radio can now go beyond single duplex, thus in metropolitan areas you can actually get service when full bars are showing, instead of being dead in NYC which was common for a long time before they installed new towers anyway. The chipset side is rather interesting, you have a monopoly from Qualcomm apparently on the latest and greatest, and 3-4 year development gap (according to some news articles) with Intel, Samsung, and allegedly Huawei following. Huawei have absolutely zero products but have gone for the sensible just modify LTE chipset approach in order to support the typical China landscape, but the others targeting millimeter wave, because it is so amazeballs, but leads to physically larger devices, which clearly is going to be an issue. * Everything quoted is "according to some news articles", idk.
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infernal machines posted:5g is mind control scary radios that will cook your brain and also give you alzheimers and kills the bees yeah but, as covered by the op, it only kills the bees if there’s direct line of sight
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Anne Frank Funk posted:great news, i'll be at mwc in a week or so and i can do a special report on 5g and the foldfones supporting it just for this thread. i'm sure it will be more interesting than the op yesssss, tia
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MrMoo posted:The one big gain I see is that the radio can now go beyond single duplex, thus in metropolitan areas you can actually get service when full bars are showing, instead of being dead in NYC which was common for a long time before they installed new towers anyway. and yeah looks like the chipset side is still a shitshow with some manufacturer claiming they are way ahead with no products while others are saying they are trying to push everything towards SDR, which is quote:In a pure software-defined radio (SDR) system, the entire radio function runs on a general-propose processor (GPP) and only requires analog-to-digital and digital-to-analog conversions, power amplifiers, and antennas, whereas in typical cases, the system is based upon a programmable dedicated hardware (e.g. ASIC, ASIP, or DSP) and associated control software. Thus, the flexibility offered by a pure SDR improves service life-cycle and cross-platform portability at the cost of lower power and computational efficiency (i.e. ASIC: 1x, DSP: 10x, GPP: 100x).
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5g's gonna suck for freedom because cops are also going to 5g, so any situation where there's a protest or demonstration or *gasp* leftists congregating, they're going to shut down cell phone access for normies for 'public safety priority service' and now you know why i own ham radios and am teaching people about them
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man that image makes me wnat to get in the 5g z0ne
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Jonny 290 posted:5g's gonna suck for freedom because cops are also going to 5g, so any situation where there's a protest or demonstration or *gasp* leftists congregating, they're going to shut down cell phone access for normies for 'public safety priority service' lol are cops smart enough to have radios that hop different frequencies or could someone with a little know-how effectively jam most cop radios (yes i know jamming is extremely illegal, ty in advance to the pedant squad for pointing this out)
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:what's "funny" to me is you know a shitload of dumbasses think we gotta go big on 5G because it's the future and we have to get away from all this crufty old landline infrastructure, when in fact it sounds like it's going to be reliant on building out a shitload more ground infrastructure lol here we go 
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:lol are cops smart enough to have radios that hop different frequencies or could someone with a little know-how effectively jam most cop radios current state? there's an 800mhz-2ghz frequency generator on my local craigslist for 80 bucks, and with a $50 ebay amplifier i could disable all cop radios in a ~1/4 mile radius with the flip of a switch. It's absolutely doable. 5g works at higher freqs, would require some pricier gear, still eminently possible.
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5g is a reasonable post-tax biweekly paycheck.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:the main issue with 5g is that 4g is so freaking good, very hard to see the use. i use 4g for my home internet these days, solid 40 mbps, ~10ms latency, all rock-solid. the handful of meters of wifi at times involved is more trouble than the 4g. like 3G before it, 4G is terribly now that all the proles are on it when the real 5G is working they should charge an extra $20/mo to use it so it stays fast for us rule 36'ers
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Fiedler posted:5g is a reasonable post-tax biweekly paycheck. lol
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