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Anne Frank Funk posted:5g, here i come! do you go to mwca per chance? i'll probably go again this year anyways i think the actual big thing for "5g" is that connections should be much more reliable. the changes on the network side with femto cells everywhere and massive mimo will make it harder to overload networks. on the handset side carrier aggregation should make current bandwidth more reliable and allow better connections when in motion (hence the "5g ambulances" and "5g autonomous cars" things despite cars and ambulances being able to send telemetry since the 90s). the funny thing is that this is all still LTE, hence AT&T's marketing for their EPC/5GC setup hobbesmaster fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Mar 3, 2019 |
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echinopsis posted:so not fundamentally different to lte, but we’ve improved things, and need a marketing term it turns out "long term evolution" was an accurate name! 5g-nr is the new bands stuff. theres also going to be unlicensed band stuff under the 5g umbrella (nr-u): https://www.qualcomm.com/news/onq/2018/12/13/3gpp-commits-5g-nr-unlicensed-spectrum-its-next-release
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# ¿ Mar 3, 2019 07:29 |
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PleasureKevin posted:Canada now says they can legally extradite the Huawei exec for breaking a US law while not even in the US. they have US entities and assets which makes Huawei subject to US law
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2019 19:29 |
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coke posted:current 5g status, no one loving knows 5g makes it easier to fire up your own private networks using unlicensed or leased licensed spectrum so it can kinda be a thing also yes you can just go out and buy some spectrum: https://selectspectrum.com/AvailableSpectrum.html
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2019 17:14 |
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an rtl-sdr is like if thats all you want and you have a laptop wait those go to 8ghz, huh thats nifty i guess? hobbesmaster fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Mar 5, 2019 |
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coke posted:who knew higher frequency band is garbage for coverage the trick 3gpp is pulling is that lte is a subset of 5G so you can call a 5G network back end that provides lte service 5g. i presume this is how AT&T is technically getting around calling LTE service 5G E.
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2019 00:39 |
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President Beep posted:I’m looking for an experience beyond studio quality. is 5g right for me? *taps sign* edit: huh the rare edit is not quote. thanks awful app hobbesmaster fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Apr 18, 2019 |
# ¿ Apr 16, 2019 00:44 |
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2x2 mimo means 4 antennas, sorry if you expected small phones
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2019 00:11 |
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MrMoo posted:Needs the commercial smarts of not making it reusable though, need to rake in money for each and every drop. it probably wears out after a couple of drops. just have to say that you "recommend replacement" after each drop
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2019 17:21 |
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:no idea why anyone would move on from such an awesome tech as 4g which works without antennas. the point here is that’s you have to use their 5g-nr antennas, not whatever you wanted to lay out
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2019 23:46 |
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~Coxy posted:isn't mmWave going to be much more susceptible to antennagate style issues? thats why massive mimo is always said in the same breath along with the mmWave stuff still, seems like it'll help mainly with vehicles and fixed broadband and the like the company i work for does industrial mainly so 5g-nr is basically "uh no that won't work for basically any of our customers". catm/nb is really good in those kinds of environments (2g or better sensitivity) and should see a mass roll out along with 5g hobbesmaster fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Apr 21, 2019 |
# ¿ Apr 21, 2019 18:00 |
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if mmWave is good for anything it'll be fixed wireless finally giving cable companies some competition
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2019 23:22 |
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Shaggar posted:its not gonna go thru walls so that's probably an issue. mmWave user equipment goes on the outside of buildings like a satellite dish. then unlicensed spectrum can be used inside the premises
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2019 23:53 |
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Gnossiennes posted:but wow itll be great for all the data mining and tiny sensors with a million relays in dense areas so that little ads on store shelves can be marketed directly to you and your emotional state while you're trying to buy some fuckin bread that stuff all uses 900 for unlicensed or 850/700 or whatever the gently caress those bands are for licensed
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2019 05:04 |
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I’m sure it’ll be fine, the carriers will be putting up microcells everywhere https://www.lightreading.com/mobile/5g/5g-and-millimeter-wave-band-challenges/a/d-id/735852 quote:Received power in dBm = Tx power + Tx antenna gain + Rx antenna gain – path loss – rain fade (est. 2dB/200m) - shadowing loss (20 to 30dB)– foliage loss (10 to 50dB) – atmosphere absorption – terrain /humility -– Fresnel blockage – system margin 10dB loss per kilometer. it’s fine! microcells will be as ubiquitous as power transformers!
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2019 05:21 |
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pointsofdata posted:99% of the time my 4g speeds seem to be limited by lovely coverage/software, I don't see how 5g is going to improve on this. *analyst points at street light*: microcell you: carriers won't actually do that, you can't just point at everything and claim it'll be a microcell *analyst points at seagull*: microcell
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2019 16:26 |
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as backhaul for all the femtocells in every street lamp or whatever is being promised today or as a home internet service. yes rain fade is a problem but if femtocells are everywhere it won’t be!!!!!
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2019 14:26 |
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some towers already use fixed wireless for backhaul, its not like the carriers can't calculate rain fade for point to point installations like that consumer equipment on the other hand...
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2019 01:38 |
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Perplx posted:I wonder how many 5g networks will be "Carrier-grade NAT" ipv4 only every pdp context on consumer networks in the US I’ve seen is ipv4v6 and are mostly using the ipv6 address already IOT networks and business networks with VPNs and such still seem to be ipv4 a lot of the time though
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# ¿ May 1, 2019 15:00 |
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how about we just all agree on not using the huawei baseband because they're garbage compared to qualcomm i can't really comment on the nationality thing though because i tell people to buy italian cellular radios as part of my job.
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# ¿ May 2, 2019 03:20 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 04:34 |
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here try this meme
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# ¿ May 2, 2019 03:29 |