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get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

i've had fleeting moments of thinking that the end of the world would come from a nuclear standoff between India and Pakistan but i've never gone whole hog on thinking that would happen. welp

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Feb 10, 2007

Grapplejack posted:

I said it in the main D&D thread but Pakistan has a first strike policy and India does not, so that limits what India would be willing to do
i trust not-fascist, not-islamophobic, definitely-not-hindu nationalist Modi to do the right thing here

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Feb 10, 2007

i can't wait to die

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Feb 10, 2007

Mantis42 posted:

Remember that episode of the Simpsons that predicted a Trump presidency? Remember this joke?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQKPSMIVHbQ
is that from the same episode? jfc

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Feb 10, 2007

you just know that at some point, an avalanche of lies and bullshit on twitter is going to start a war, kind of like a more technologically advanced version of the run-up to the Spanish-American War. it may not be now but there's close to a 100% chance that it will happen in the future

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Feb 10, 2007

FoolyCharged posted:

In their defense, "Remember the Maine! To hell with Spain!" is super catchy.
also in their defense, to hell with Spain

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Feb 10, 2007

is this person full of herself? i'm inclined to believe "yes"
https://twitter.com/CChristineFair/status/1100918712952070144

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Feb 10, 2007

Troy Queef posted:

she still uses triple parentheses in "solidarity" four years after that was a thing, therefore she's a loving rube
no jew is named christine so i'm immediately suspicious of her using the echo

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Feb 10, 2007

cargo cult posted:

that there were fundraisers doesn't mean a majority voted for him or love him lol. asians much like every minority bloc vote solidly democratic
indian-americans are the most solidly blue asian group in the country. something like 75% of them are registered democrats. granted, that probably has to do with where they live- many of them live in NYC or NJ. vietnamese-americans are more split in terms of party loyalty, and a lot of them live in Oklahoma, which is deep red

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Feb 10, 2007

why is there an Indian air force rank with the same name as a defunct video game series

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Feb 10, 2007

is imran khan any good? former athletes-turned-politicians tend to have pretty bad politics. see: George Weah, former AC Milan star and current president of Liberia who cozies up to the christian right

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Feb 10, 2007

https://twitter.com/bigdildo/status/2386102987

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Feb 10, 2007

is india more hosed than brazil? at least some people are starting to sour on Bolso
this child will absolutely be spared from roving gangs of saffron-robed goons in 10 years

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Feb 10, 2007

sorry for the double post but this needs its own post:

what the gently caress, Indian-Americans? well over 90% of them support BJP's re-election

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Feb 10, 2007

no ethical consumption etc.

Xelkelvos posted:

Most of the people who have the money or skills to emigrate to wealthier nations and start a business are the same sorts of people who believe in pulling oneself up by one's own bootstraps and that sort of Conservative stuff.

It's the same with Filipinos in the US and Duterte.
i know that expats and immigrants have a major disconnect between the politics of their old country and their new one, but it's still stark with indian-americans because they're the most dem-friendly Asian electorate. although considering how many of them trend in white collar professions i shouldn't be

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Feb 10, 2007

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Tulsi Gabbard likes Modi and she's literally a Democrat.
what i'm getting at is that many indian-americans would never vote for an american version of Modi but they love the one in the old country

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Feb 10, 2007

i say swears online posted:

Being mildly religious as well as a SBO or tech worker will do an ideological number on any demographic
hey that's not fair. a lot of indian-americans are also doctors, who definitely don't tend to be politically shortsighted

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Feb 10, 2007

CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:

Many _______-Americans are from the comprador/landlord class in the old country. America's immigration/asylum policy post-1965 creates a never ending stream of native informants who then turn around and justify US foreign policy and intervention overseas.
lol post-1965, try after the mid-1920s

one good example of that immigration policy in the mid-60s: the American government actively clamored for Jamaican nurses after their independence. high skilled or get out, baby

get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 18:56 on May 30, 2019

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Feb 10, 2007

The Dipshit posted:

Please tell me you aren't serious.
i'm not, i'm being extremely sarcastic. doctors are just as haughty as small business owners and engineers

get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 19:47 on May 30, 2019

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Feb 10, 2007

India could have used their economic potential to be an economic superpower. why are they so content to be the crown jewel of neoliberal globalization instead?

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Feb 10, 2007

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

technically the caste system is illegal, so everybody just pretends it doesn't exist
they do a poor job of pretending

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Feb 10, 2007

Typo posted:

maybe it's because bourgois parliaments make it impossible to implement market socialism like a certain country next door?

:thunk:
one thread for your stupid gimmick is enough

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Feb 10, 2007

of all the moronic metaphors Friedman has come up with over the years, this is still one of his dumbest

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Feb 10, 2007

CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:

nah, America is trying to align with India in a effort to build a bulwark around China, which is why the western media has been respectful of the Indian government rampaging through Kashmir, shutting down telecommunications, and arresting local political leaders.
your PRC bootlicking shtick won't work here either, begone bitch

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Feb 10, 2007

Modi's cult of personality is odd to me. so many other right-wing heads of government have a brash, loud, bombastic personality (Trump, Bolso, Salvini, BoJo, Duterte), and then you have grandfatherly, relatively quiet Modi. obviously he's racist and has that in common with everyone i mentioned, but it's weird that he attracts so many people to him by acting the opposite

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Feb 10, 2007

Feranon posted:

wonder why they decided to just fuckin go for it now of all times. because the election is over i guess?
that's a pretty safe assumption. not only was the predicted decline of BJP completely wrong, they gained more seats, and with that comes louder shouts from hindu nationalists

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Feb 10, 2007

Jose posted:

The economy is in the shitter
hmmm whose fault might that be, i wonder

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Feb 10, 2007

OhFunny posted:

#Article370revoked was near the top of the trending charts on Twitter for me this morning. Hindu nationalists are ecstatic.
if far-right governments across the world were as good at manipulating Twitter as the BJP is, we'd be even more hosed than we already are

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Feb 10, 2007

has there been any response from the pakistani government over this? i'd like to hear some before we start worshiping death

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Feb 10, 2007

Over Easy posted:

Global warming being cancelled out by nuclear winter was a joke on futurama and now it is real.
i thought they canceled it out because robots farted the earth's orbit a small distance away from the sun

i say swears online posted:

india is threatening to invade pakistani kashmir now

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ow/70556584.cms
haha gently caress me, this is going to get real lovely

cargo cult posted:

there will definitely be a huge wave of terrorism within india not limited to J&K
in the short term, definitely. in the long term, who the gently caress knows. so much of the post-WW2 consensus has fallen to the wayside in the past few years, i can easily imagine "don't kill people with nuclear weapons" would too if given half a chance

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Feb 10, 2007

i say swears online posted:

it's amazing how successful this overnight deployment and occupation was

https://twitter.com/asadowaisi/status/1158792780950335488/photo/1
if poo poo rolls downhill, then this is an avalanche of it

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Feb 10, 2007

it's impressive how quickly India moved to strip away J&K's special status, turn it into a military state, quasi-annex it, and mobilized Bollywood to get war fever all in a matter of days. horrifying, but impressive

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Feb 10, 2007

AFancyQuestionMark posted:

I am not trying to be smug or whatever, its just that seeing people respond to a fascist clamp down in a persecuted region of another country primarily with essentially "wait, this one could potentially affect me!" feels kinda lovely imo
that's a hell of an interpretation

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Feb 10, 2007

probably, yeah

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Feb 10, 2007

all jokes and cynicism aside, india went from zero to settler colonialism astonishingly and frighteningly fast

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Feb 10, 2007

outside of Kashmir, i read an article about how the Indian government is prepared to do a citizenship review of everyone in a state bordering with Bangladesh, i want to say it's in Assam. there's a bill in parliament that was stalled last year that would provide immunity to this census to Hindus, Christians, Buddhists, Jainists, and other religions. notably absent from that bill: Muslims. they may plan to revisit that bill very soon

other things in that article that stood out: Indian citizens are allowed to question the citizenships of others, so if this passes, expect a whole lot of ratting out. also, the government is building massive detention centers that will hold thousands of people in Assam. these centers can also be called something else

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Feb 10, 2007

cargo cult posted:

assam i think is majority christian. maybe theres an influx of migrants from majority muslim bangladesh there
yeah, the article went over the fears there of illegal bangladeshi migrants coming in across the border, and that's why it's presumably the testing ground for doing this elsewhere
cool, i'm depressed now

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Feb 10, 2007

Fuzzy McDoom posted:

Assam is about 60% Hindu 30% Muslim. Some of the small neighboring states like Mizoram and Meghalaya actually do have Christian majorities, but these are tiny and generally sparsely populated states that also barely have any Muslims in them. No doubt Assam is the target because its Muslim minority is probably larger than the total population of all the other NE states put together. Also, much like Kashmir there is potential for fuckery on the NE frontier since most of those states (I think all of them except Assam?) have internal migration and development restrictions designed to stop the native populations from being easily out-populated by migrants from the major Indian states or -gasp- Bangladesh. Politicians in the region talk poo poo about illegal immigrants every so often and have historically ICE-raided limited numbers of Bangladeshis with great fanfare, especially around election times.
i read a few articles about the not-at-all ominous-sounding National Register of Citizens. the cut-off date for people who aren't considered illegal immigrants in Assam is March 24, 1971, the day before India went to war with Pakistan over Bangladesh. the burden of proof is on the individual to show that they're citizens, not the government, and given that many people in the state are illiterate and/or have a hard time going to the tribunal building that they have to go to (typically many kilometers away from remote villages), there's plenty of room to get screwed. Hindus have fewer hurdles to overcome than Muslims. recently, a family cut off a marriage because either the bride or groom, forgot which one, was not on the recent register of citizens

it's all terrible and the BJP government wants to expand it to areas with a high rate of "infiltration"

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Feb 10, 2007

India is getting help from Russia to build hypersonic missiles, while Pakistan is considering doing the same with China's help. nice knowing you, everybody

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Feb 10, 2007

indian hoteps are on another level

quote:

The most widely discussed talk at the Indian Science Congress, a government-funded annual jamboree held in Jalandhar in January, wasn't about space exploration or information technology, areas in which India has made rapid progress. Instead, the talk celebrated a story in the Hindu epic Mahabharata about a woman who gave birth to 100 children, citing it as evidence that India's ancient Hindu civilization had developed advanced reproductive technologies. Just as surprising as the claim was the distinguished pedigree of the scientist who made it: chemist G. Nageshwar Rao, vice-chancellor of Andhra University in Visakhapatnam. "Stem cell research was done in this country thousands of years ago," Rao said.

His talk was widely met with ridicule. But Rao is hardly the only Indian scientist to make such claims. In recent years, "experts" have said ancient Indians had spacecraft, the internet, and nuclear weapons—long before Western science came on the scene.

Such claims and other forms of pseudoscience rooted in Hindu nationalism have been on the rise since Prime Minister Narendra Modi came to power in 2014. They're not just an embarrassment, some researchers say, but a threat to science and education that stifles critical thinking and could hamper India's development. "Modi has initiated what may be called ‘Project Assault on Scientific Rationality,’" says Gauhar Raza, former chief scientist at the Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR) here, a conglomerate of almost 40 national labs. "A religio-mythical culture is being propagated in the country's scientific institutions aggressively."

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