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Aliens is a good movie, but I don’t like all of the director’s cut changes. The early scenes on LV426 are decent scenes (I really enjoy the bit with the hassled colony bureaucrats bantering) but they gently caress up the pacing and blow the reveal too early. The sentry gun scene rules though.
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Hey feelix, what are the good 80s action movies
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Mar 3, 2019 02:28
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Alien is better than Aliens, but no way is Mad Max better than Road Warrior
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Mar 3, 2019 02:37
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Also the joke they make about her thinking they meant illegal aliens was real. She auditioned for the movie thinking it was about illegal aliens. Lmfao what? What was the tip off
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Julius CSAR posted:Oh and speaking of Near Dark, the movie got a new DVD(blu-ray?) release around the time "Twilight" was popular and the re-did the marketing something fierce... Lmbo
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Incidentally, Alien 3 is also structured like this. A mysterious woman shows up at a remote outpost and suddenly people start dying. She claims she didn’t do it but nobody trusts her until it’s too late. The idea is obviously that your read will be different if you somehow haven’t heard of Alien 1 or 2. But I guess they realized everyone had heard of them already, cause it blows this right open by showing the dog get facehugged at the start. There’s not any actual tension as to whether Ripley is on the level.
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3 is an okay sequel to Alien, but a terrible sequel to Aliens Alien 4 has a great cast that it wastes on dreck. Like, how do you get Ron Perlman, Michael Wincott and Brad Dourif in the same movie and still have it suck rear end. skasion fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Mar 4, 2019 |
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etalian posted:Wrong director perhaps? Jeunet is a great director. Delicatessen, City of Lost Children, Amelie are all awesome movies. You could argue that it’s a bit of a mismatch but like with Fincher on Alien 3, I think that the movie would be terrible without him in charge. Also he wanted to give the newborn horrifying inflamed hermaphroditic genitals, which sounds like a great idea by me (studio shot this down, alas). Unfortunately it’s kind of terrible even with him in charge. Whedon’s script is more at fault for me. It’s too Whedony. Some premises lend themselves naturally to twee meta comedy, Alien isn’t one. Alien and even more so Aliens are funny movies, but in a much less artificial way.
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Mar 4, 2019 14:21
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The scenes added in the extended version are all good, it’s their effect on the pacing and structure of the movie that is bad
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Mar 4, 2019 17:46
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That scene is hilarious
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Mar 4, 2019 18:27
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Other way. The ox is in the assembly cut, it’s the dog in the original.
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Surely there’s gotta be an Alien vs Thing comic somewhere right
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Mar 6, 2019 20:37
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Robokomodo posted:Alien 3 is good. skasion posted:3 is an okay sequel to Alien, but a terrible sequel to Aliens
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Robokomodo posted:But why? The basic appeal of Aliens is that it’s a movie about Ripley, an average working stiff who nobody really respects, getting sneered at by bad rear end marines two hours before they all get wrecked, and then she suits up and kicks every alien’s rear end. She wins the respect of Manly Man Hicks, spits in the eye of evil megacorporation, and protects a surrogate daughter like she never could protect her own. It’s a story of an underdog getting empowered and kicking her enemies to the curb, and that’s the key to why people like the movie. Alien 3 decides it doesn’t want to do that. Killing off Hicks and Newt is just a symptom of how it basically resets her from having morphed into a kickass action hero, to being an average working stiff like in the first movie/start of the second again. It’s a story about a woman deciding her life is basically irrevocably hosed, evil is inside her, and she must destroy herself. It’s not an indefensible choice and like I’ve said, I think Alien 3 is an ok movie despite having serious problems, but it’s not satisfying as a follow-up to Aliens. A Wizard of Goatse posted:There's a hundred early-90s direct-to-video space monster knockoffs that never got the name but manage to be better Alien movies. Exaggeration. Forbidden World and maybe Galaxy of Terror are the only two I can think of that are even close.
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Hardware rocks but it’s surely Terminator-based, not Alien. Does Lifeforce count? I like that one.
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Beet Wagon posted:So, I actually own a copy of the "Colonial Marines Technical Manual" that was mentioned earlier in the thread, and the future is way dumber than you could possibly imagine lol (I am impressed someone took a moment to think about "Oh gently caress how do they fire it laying down?" for the book though). lmao
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:the only thing about aliens that didn't make sense is that there were like, what, 20 marines on the ship, and no crew? they aren't even sending a full platoon on the massive, ultra-expensive spaceship? It's a bug hunt. It makes sense that there's no significant military force sent to LV426 imo. The goal of the shady company is to scope out the alien situation and bring back an impregnated guy or two for study. This will be easier if there are fewer people involved. They aren't interested in letting on that anything has gone wrong with the colony by sending a large force, let alone actually destroying all the aliens.
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:was that their goal though? at that point they didn't know what the aliens were as ripley's original ship was destroyed and her descriptions of the alien wern't that useful (at least in the context of what's presented in the film). it was only when paul reiser had a chance to investigate the med lab he realized the potential for the aliens as a weapon and came up with a plan to smuggle some samples back in ripley and newt. Weyland-Yutani has known about the alien since Alien, remember? They didn't have to know anything much about the alien in that movie to tell the robot "whoa nelly, bring that sucker back pronto, feed the crew to it if you have to nbd". Burke's specific plan to get aliens into Newt and Ripley and freeze them without anyone else knowing about it was an opportunistic on-the-fly thing, but I don't believe at all that it's Burke's own initiative to bring aliens back in the first place. He's an ambitious young middle-manager type, not the guy who makes the big decisions. The ship's crew in Alien are kinda superfluous to the actual ship's ability to travel seemingly. They can decide where to go, but they're also totally willing to just conk out and let the ship run itself. I think that's a kind of unusual and memorable touch (for famous sci-fi stories in film anyway -- contrast Star Trek, Star Wars, Forbidden Planet where flying a spaceship requires constant human input) and I can see why they brought it back in Aliens. Pennywise the Frown posted:That's a good point. They probably purposefully sent in a small team just so that no one would get back alive or at least fewer people to talk about it. Burk had his orders from the company to bring that thing back, if it existed, and Ripley called him out saying that he could just sabotage a few hypersleep chambers and boom, he's the WT hero. Something I don't think I've ever seen discussed about the hearing scene is that Ripley knows the company is responsible for getting the Nostromo crew killed, but doesn't actually know if the people at her hearing might have been the very people that signed off on her death. Part of the reason why her character is so hopeless and desperate after being grounded is because the company has shown her they basically have complete control of her life and can easily prevent the truth from ever coming out by just keeping her in her lovely space apartment working lovely space warehouses. The company definitely deliberately let the colonists get slaughtered. It's possible that was the whole point of the colony to begin with. skasion fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Mar 7, 2019 |
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SilvergunSuperman posted:But seriously is there a worse name than Spunkmeyer? Wierzbowski? WIERZBOWSKI!!!!!
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Weaver's interpretation of that last line is so good. The flight recorder had to have been doctored by the company. I don't think Ash would have erased stuff about the alien, the whole job he was tasked with was to observe, report and bring back the creature.
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RossMan4Life posted:That loving ruled. I forgot enough from my last viewing to have gotten the best take on Bishop and pretty much forgot all about Paul Reiser being in it past the beginning. Alien is all a really tall dude in a suit as far as I know. I’m pretty sure there is no full-body animatronic. There was an animatronic head slathered in KY Jelly (this is true) for close ups.
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The alien doesn’t need to be explained, its origins should be unknowable, and Aliens pushes the explanation about as far as it can go (there’s a big one that shits out the little ones) without making it silly as gently caress like Promo/Covenant or AVP. Though personally I think the lifecycle depicted in Alien is much more elegant and creepy: one facehugger makes one alien larva, which grows up and cocoons an animal before impregnating it with another embryonic facehugger as it melts into a protective eggcase. No big obvious weak point to shoot full of grenades, if a single alien has enough fauna to rape it can breed a thousand more.
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SilvergunSuperman posted:Here's a dumb opinion, I like the first AvP way more than requiem. This isn’t a dumb opinion at all. AVP is clumsy in execution (PG13 Alien movie? PG13 Predator movie? Lmao) on top of the whole idea being dumb, but it’s a fun dumb. It’s essentially one big crackpot pastiche of “At the Mountains of Madness” and it’s hard to go all the way wrong with that premise. Requiem is a terrible movie with no redeeming qualities whatsoever, there’s really nothing worse to say about it than that it looks like complete poo poo despite being conceived and directed by two special effects guys.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:lmao holy poo poo did they really go for a "the androids are all programmed for magazine murder" thing, and not like maybe Ash is just a loving weirdo who doesn't really know how to kill someone and is trying to improvise with the first thing that comes to hand Ash isn’t just being weird, he’s trying to emulate the facehugger, which defeats its enemies by forcing a sex organ down its throat, by choking Ripley with a rolled up porn mag. quote:Ridley talked to Ian Holm about his character "How do you feel about sexual drive?". He said "Great".
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The best thing about McTiernan is after how making some of the best action movies of all time, he blew up his career and went to jail for trying to wiretap one of the producers of his terrible Rollerball remake
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Wizchine posted:I'm also fond of the performance of the late Richard Jordan who portrayed National Security Adviser Jeffrey Pelt ("Andrei... you've lost another submarine?") He's probably most recognized as Logan's friend-turned-enemy Francis in Logan's Run. Sadly, he died only three years after the Hunt for Red October was made. Also Duncan Idaho in Lynch’s Dune, for a hot minute before he gets killed off.
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Splicer posted:It's also somehow more racist The movie feels like it was directed by Shane Black’s character in Predator Wait I am thinking of The Predator. Which is also poo poo garbage skasion fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Mar 14, 2019 |
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Splicer posted:It's not my fetish. "Hot female IDF member" became a standard film and tv trope recently and I want to know who decided to make that a thing. Gal Gadot literally was the hot female IDF member before she got into Hollywood. She was in some women in uniform type Maxim photo shoot in the mid 2000s that got to be big news somehow, way before she was A-list. Maybe that’s where they were coming from. Splicer posted:And now I know that Shane Black directed The Predator. Which I am going to watch soon. Because of masochism. You will see, it is way more accurate about The Predator. Predators is dull and ugly but The Predator is one of the most incoherent big budget movies I’ve ever seen.
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Predator 2’s only real problem is that it has to follow up Predator 1 without Arnold. But it adapts to that brilliantly and apart from that burden of expectation it’s a great movie. I think it’s aged really well as the threequel and fourquel are so spectacularly inept and show how much worse it could have been. Quite apart from anything else, the social commentary aspect is awesome, Verhoeven level.
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The predator in Predator 2 is indeed a moron. I like to think of him as the equivalent of fat middle-American dentists who go on safari and get eaten by lions; in that case, the actions of his fellow predators at the end of that movie are tantamount to your hunting buddies thinking so little of you they give the lion a medal.
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Human Alien in 4 is almost a crazy enough design to work despite itself. Not quite though. Having now seen the original design with its inflamed engorged dickgina that the studio wouldn't allow in the movie, I think that's really the missing element.
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Randarkman posted:Why is it a human alien again in Resurrection? Specifically why is it different from all the ones we've seen before who really have all been "human aliens" (except the one in Alien 3). I think there was a reason for it in the movie, I just don't remember much about the movie because it was kind of a piece of crap, though I actually kind of enjoyed it for what it was. It’s because it was born from the alien queen that they removed from Ripley before they started making Ripley clones, but there was genetic cross-contamination (and this is set up with Ripley clone having alien superpowers) and the queen has a human uterus, so gives birth to the human alien. It doesn’t really make much sense to me since the other (normal looking) aliens in the movie must have also been derived from the same DNA, but that’s the reasoning given. There are definitely some enjoyable bits in Resurrection. It’s a piece of poo poo overall and the more so because of the series it’s in, but some definite talent went into it.
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She says “in the pipe” because the target selector thing (reticule? crosshair? Idk what you’d call it) is on target, Spunkmeyer just confirmed their trajectory and now they’re headed on the right path. I don’t think that it is actual jargon unlike “five by five”.
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Hell Stink posted:Just came by to say I never made it past the 8th area in Isolation...too scary. I hid in a locker and turned the game off. Please don't think less of me. 
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Antal’s first movie was good. Control. It’s like a black comedy about a nutcase ticket inspector. I have no idea why anyone would think he could make a Predator movie though.
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No way in hell is Predators better than 2.
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new Blade Runner would be a good movie if it weren’t so literal minded a sequel. Harrison Ford’s old, visibly disgruntled rear end showing up adds nothing to the film and tanks the pacing so he can have a fist fight. It’s a loving lame addition to a character who already had a great sendoff in his own movie. It should have spent more time on its own characters, especially Luv who is wildly underused and the robomessiah who is barely a character at all.
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Annihilation is good but it’s much more like STALKER the game or even Roadside Picnic the book than it is like Tarkovsky’s Stalker. Let alone 80s monster pics like Alien or Predator or whatever, which it’s absolutely nothing like.
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Iron Crowned posted:The next Alien should be a romcom Al bursts onto the plane as it is about to take off, desperate to tell Ellen that he really loves her deep down. There are no survivors.
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