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byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

Dumb Lowtax posted:

John Oliver has an imperfect record but he is putting left wing ideas on the air on new unheard of topics every week moreso than any other TV personality.

And keep in mind that he's beholden to a big company and doesn't have total freedom over his show, yet still brings as many important but unknown left wing causes to light

He's putting many of YOUR causes on the air when no one else is

If this is how you all bitch and moan any time one of our useful allies happens to become popular and successful, holding them to a standard of perfection and visible poverty or else they get the leftist circular firing squad, then I can kind of kind of understand why we are lacking for real leaders and public figures

Maybe don't do that

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Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Oliver is to the left of a lot of centrist libs probably due to where he came from but he's still a lib and still advocates from a point of "the system needs to be fixed not replaced" and he's very much in that nyc succdem bubble along with sam bee and all those other variety pundits out there

Inept
Jul 8, 2003

some of the episodes are ok but lol if you think he's ever going to advocate for changing the system in any meaningful way. he works for at&t now

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

Samantha bee also had one of the most painfully unfunny promos ever made a few years back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etf-gIh1qC4

I was in a crowded movie theater waiting for Star Wars: The Force Awakens to start and it was just dead silence followed by some people asking confused "was that supposed to be funny", I legit felt embarrassed for the people that worked on it lmao

Bear Retrieval Unit
Nov 5, 2009

Mudslide Experiment
I go to fear/sanity rallies
And i put down the old d.n.c.
I love Jordan and Sam B and Trevor
I hope every ex-daily show becomes a star
But don't talk about bernie sanders
That's going a little bit too far
So love me, love me, love me, I'm John Oliver

The people of the ol' green party
Should all hang their heads in shame
I can't understand how their minds work
What's the matter don't they watch SNL?
But if you ask me to vote third party
I hope the cops take down your name
So love me, love me, love me, I'm John Oliver

I vote for the democtratic party
They want wall st. to be strong
I go to all the Hamilton showings
He sure gets me singing those songs
I'll waste all the money you ask for
As long as it's just for a joke
So love me, love me, love me, John Oliver

Once i was young and impulsive
Heard every conceivable pun
Even showed some socialist leanings
Talked about eating the rich
But I've grown famous and wealthy
And that's why I'm just talking poo poo
So love me, love me, love me, I'm John Oliver

Hustlin Floh
Jul 20, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Are there any American pundits who have shows in the UK about how dumb their politics are? I have a business idea...

An insane mind
Aug 11, 2018

I like LWT OP, I've just not been watching anything this week because I'm trying to stay away from the news a bit. He could be more left, but then he'd have to go off syndication or stop being produced by big studios and I don't know if I'd be able to give that up for cash to use on my investigative dives either :shrug:.

Still think he's good though so I guess that makes me terrible.

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



John Oliver has never once even approached any indictment of the American system, capitalism, or the liberal discourse and is therefore a technician-reformer collaborator at best. Everything about his show perpetuates the notion that merely pointing out problems is sufficient to resolve them because idiot liberals believe the system is capable of eradicating its own core characteristics when they become excessively problematic for domestic populations. It never actually makes any assertions, it just informs a worthless centrist sense of smugness that comes from having all of the available information and choosing not to act on it in a meaningful way

Frog Act has issued a correction as of 20:53 on Mar 18, 2019

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


bird with big dick posted:

John Oliver doesn’t spend his hour screaming Full Communism Now at the camera so therefore he is bad let me post a few Breitbart links discussing further reasons why he is bad.

this but unironically

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
just lol if you’re not screaming full communism now

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

basic hitler posted:

i liked lwt at the start, because they focused on international stories, their thing about tobacco sales in developing countries was crazy neat, nobody else in that pundit/variety circle did stuff like that

post-escalator lwt has been nothing but that really weird/sad liberal thing where they're all desperately laughing through their own psychosis and like everything from jokes to content is centered around being therapeutic for everyone traumatized by Orange Man Being President so obviously its liberalishness is on display and it turns out john oliver is a succ moron but hey

i still liked their international segments a whole lot, covering stories that are just like totally ignored by our domestic media

but being interesting and funny is a pre-donnie luxury i guess
my feelings exactly. i stopped watching mid-2015 and it only went downhill from there

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop

Frog Act posted:

John Oliver has never once even approached any indictment of the American system, capitalism, or the liberal discourse and is therefore a technician-reformer collaborator at best. Everything about his show perpetuates the notion that merely pointing out problems is sufficient to resolve them because idiot liberals believe the system is capable of eradicating its own core characteristics when they become excessively problematic for domestic populations. It never actually makes any assertions, it just informs a worthless centrist sense of smugness that comes from having all of the available information and choosing not to act on it in a meaningful way

yeah :smith:

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

op hand in your plaster town cop badge and gun

IDONTPOST
Apr 18, 2018




this thread is super depressing but funny

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

Prav posted:

this guy seems to be a liberal, op

and so does john oliver

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

bird with big dick posted:

John Oliver doesn’t spend his hour screaming Full Communism Now at the camera so therefore he is bad let me post a few Breitbart links discussing further reasons why he is bad.
i would be able to overlook J/O's lack of good politics if he were funny, but on LWT he isn't, so

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

get that OUT of my face posted:

i would be able to overlook J/O's lack of good politics if he were funny, but on LWT he isn't, so

what, you don't like comparisons to animals?

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

crossposting

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
John Oliver's reputation as a bog standard ineffectual #Resistance late night comedy-news guy is exaggerated but ultimately his fault for doing the DRUMPF thing

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

half the people I’ve seen complain about the drumpf thing didn’t even see the bit or understand the contest but regardless it was over two years ago so maybe get over it.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

bird with big dick posted:

half the people I’ve seen complain about the drumpf thing didn’t even see the bit or understand the contest but regardless it was over two years ago so maybe get over it.

I did watch it and it was so, so bad



And it's basically a symbol now so getting over it doesn't work

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

the context is his family changed their surname at ellis island, it's not funny considering all last names are made up bullshit and going from drumpf to trump was p savvy move

did you know david bowie was actually born david jones? owned!!!

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Percelus posted:

the context is his family changed their surname at ellis island, it's not funny considering all last names are made up bullshit and going from drumpf to trump was p savvy move

did you know david bowie was actually born david jones? owned!!!

I'm making myself lol thinking of Oliver doing the exact same routine with the same delivery but he's talking about Jon Stewart

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
Although he did it in the first place partly as a response to Trump dogwhistling about Jon Stewart so I guess that wouldn't make sense

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006

Good soup! posted:

Samantha bee also had one of the most painfully unfunny promos ever made a few years back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etf-gIh1qC4

I was in a crowded movie theater waiting for Star Wars: The Force Awakens to start and it was just dead silence followed by some people asking confused "was that supposed to be funny", I legit felt embarrassed for the people that worked on it lmao

this is a hell of a metaphor for something

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

bird with big dick posted:

half the people I’ve seen complain about the drumpf thing didn’t even see the bit or understand the contest but regardless it was over two years ago so maybe get over it.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991


lmao

quote:

In 2014, John Oliver emerged as one of the few comedians who maintained his edge while influencing, or at least distracting, real-world policymaking.

His net neutrality episode, in particular, revealed that even in today’s satire glut, a comedian can inspire an audience to take civic action. Net neutrality, which the FCC is on the verge of retiring in favor of a dual-tier model that reserves speedier net access for those who can pay for the privilege, is not a new issue. And unfortunately, it’s a boring, complicated subject—Kryptonite to the usual comedy delivery systems.

But in June, Oliver devoted thirteen solid minutes of his show—about half of it—to net neutrality, advancing a hilariously compelling argument in its favor and turning his jokes into a cogent explanation of what is at stake. Before he could ridicule the FCC’s policy, he had to unpack its missteps in detail.

Informing the audience, skewering illogic, and building it all into a truly devastating finale the way Oliver did: that’s more than just throwaway jokes on Twitter. After the initial HBO broadcast of the segment, it went on to net 7.7 million views on YouTube.

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
Love too skewer illogic.

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
The Monica Lewenski interview and the rest of yesterday's segment on internet dogpiling is up. It's good, watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq7Eh6JTKIg

I hope it inspires more people to reach out to individuals they see getting hounded their whole lives by the disproportionate response of internet anger campaigns.

If it causes just one person to send a message of support whenever they see it happen then the episode was worth it.

What other TV segments have you seen recently that don't just create a narrative, but are designed to have some sort of clearly visible, positive external effect?

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Dumb Lowtax posted:

The Monica Lewenski interview and the rest of yesterday's segment on internet dogpiling is up. It's good, watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq7Eh6JTKIg

I hope it inspires more people to reach out to individuals they see getting hounded their whole lives by the disproportionate response of internet anger campaigns.

If it causes just one person to send a message of support whenever they see it happen then the episode was worth it.

What other TV segments have you seen recently that don't just create a narrative, but are designed to have some sort of clearly visible, positive external effect?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWO7atzL8i4

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
On one hand, dog pilling bad

on the other hand, dog pilling drumpf

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

jon oliver sucks rear end

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

i'm going to assume jon oliver has still not done any episode on single payer healthcare or nationalized health services because it involves a solution instead of just identifying a problem in some kind of weird liberal suffer porn

Tiberius Christ
Mar 4, 2009

#DRUMPF

e: just watched the public shaming video Monica Lewinsky is in it and is hilarious

Tiberius Christ has issued a correction as of 12:59 on Mar 19, 2019

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Dumb Lowtax posted:

The Monica Lewenski interview and the rest of yesterday's segment on internet dogpiling is up. It's good, watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq7Eh6JTKIg

I hope it inspires more people to reach out to individuals they see getting hounded their whole lives by the disproportionate response of internet anger campaigns.

If it causes just one person to send a message of support whenever they see it happen then the episode was worth it.

What other TV segments have you seen recently that don't just create a narrative, but are designed to have some sort of clearly visible, positive external effect?

That's a really good segment

Blast of Confetti
Apr 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Frog Act posted:

John Oliver has never once even approached any indictment of the American system, capitalism, or the liberal discourse and is therefore a technician-reformer collaborator at best. Everything about his show perpetuates the notion that merely pointing out problems is sufficient to resolve them because idiot liberals believe the system is capable of eradicating its own core characteristics when they become excessively problematic for domestic populations. It never actually makes any assertions, it just informs a worthless centrist sense of smugness that comes from having all of the available information and choosing not to act on it in a meaningful way

but he sets up websoites where you can sign a petition!!!!

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

liberals am i right folks?

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croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 94 days!

AnimeIsTrash posted:

liberals am i right folks?

i think they're alright. the "lesser evil", i'd say

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