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Kraftwerk posted:So instead of tilting at the windmills on Facebook- I thought I’d ask you guys to help me brainstorm some ideas on how we can build a homegrown progressive movement here in Canada. infernal machines posted:Teachers' Union Thug is one hell of a name. just another fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Apr 24, 2019 |
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I am extremely suspicious of any study that claims social promotion is a net good, or that streaming is a net bad, relative to the current system. I know too many students who have been made more at-risk by being forced into regular classrooms in the name of "inclusion", which is only ever a money saving philosophy when uttered by the Ministry or the school district.
just another fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Apr 24, 2019 |
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BC education chat: BC Goons, please read up on the travesty that is the prevalence based funding model that is being proposed by the Ministry of Education. A good overview is here: https://www.straight.com/news/1162331/patti-bacchus-bcs-education-funding-review-headed-trouble Under the current model, (some) spec. ed. students receive targeted funds based on their particular designation. This makes it real easy to have conversations like "Jimmy brings in $8000.00 to this school every year. Where is this money being spent to help Jimmy?" What the prevalence model proposes to do is give school districts a basket of funding based on the statistical likelihood of certain designations in the populace. The district can then spend that money at their discretion, with little to no accountability to individual students. There are many issues with this. In particular, it effectively defunds individual Spec. Ed. categories, which in turn creates a disincentive to formally assess students (testing remains expensive, but more testing will not result in more dollars). We already saw this happen in Ontario when it moved to a prevalence model, and here in BC when certain previously-funded categories were defunded (e.g. nobody is assessed for giftedness anymore and gifted programs are largely defunct). This is bad because it means a weaker case for things like EAs and specialist teachers, and particularly for low SES and at-risk youth, it means a greater likelihood of not receiving psychoeducational assessments and testing that will qualify them for things like community housing and disability pension. I can go into more detail if anyone cares, but the gist is that this model is going to harm a lot of students. Students with wealthy families or strong parent advocates will do fine, and some districts with amazing leadership will probably benefit. For the students I work with, it's going to be a disaster. edit: Also, collective bargaining between BCPSEA and the BCTF is underway. We're still in a media blackout and so I can't go into specifics, but gee golly gosh wouldn't you just know the NDP are Liberal Lite. gently caress this government. just another fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Apr 24, 2019 |
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Pixelante posted:In practice, it really doesn't work this way. Even if Jimmy's designation brings in funding, it's not tied to him--which schools are very quick to point out. Of course, they use the argument the reverse way too: your kid's designation doesn't bring funding, so of course you can't have an EA 1-on-1 despite problems. I cannot count how many times I've had either argument while supporting parents in IEP meetings. Are you in education, too? Other BC ed news: quote:Because of our strong economy, more families are choosing to make B.C. their home. Our public schools are growing, with more kids than ever entering our classrooms. We acted quickly to ensure school construction projects got underway, with more than $1 billion invested since September 2017. This historic funding will add thousands of new seats, so we can get kids out of portables in some of our fastest-growing communities. The $1 billion investment and 4,000 new hires is because the BC government lost a legal battle before the SCC and was forced to restore contract language that was stripped by the Liberals. They were obligated to hire those teachers by the restored collective agreement, not because they are a beneficent government.
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Pixelante posted:This year the big fight has been schools sending kids with disabilities home because the supports aren't in place for them. It violates the School Act, but it's happening in every single school district in BC. I'm guessing it's the former and the decision is primarily based on student and/or classroom safety, but I know how the Ministry and it's messengers are talking about it, and they're using it as a cudgel to attack the union.
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2019 19:31 |
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Not so keen to explicitly link a name to my 10 year old SA account because there's probably some cringey stuff in my post history, but I'll try to whip up a concise email for you. Or just share out to the thread if there's interest, but it's kinda inside baseball-y.
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2019 20:30 |
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Falstaff posted:I'd be interested if you're willing to share. Just starting my teaching career now (finished my final evaluation today, in fact), and this is a topic of great interest to me. So the recent Liberal era of BC education was not a happy one. In 2002, language governing class size and composition ratios was stripped from the collective agreement by fiat. Class size and composition language was meant to do two things: one, it helped restrain teacher workload issues by setting class size limits, as well as caps on the number of special need students per classroom; and two, it set a minimum floor for services to be provided by school districts to students with special needs. The result of stripping this language was that school districts were able to hire fewer teachers, create bigger classrooms, and provide fewer services to special needs students. As well, during this period, certain special education categories were defunded. If a student receives the appropriate testing and is deemed to fit the criteria for a funded category, then that student’s designation obligates the Ministry to provide additional funding to the student’s district. It isn’t perfect, and it creates its own perverse incentives, but it provides a direct link between a student’s identified needs and the school district’s funding. After certain categories were defunded, there was a significant drop in the number of students testing into them. There was simply no longer an incentive to test for certain Spec. Ed. diagnoses. You would think it doesn’t matter because needs are needs, but in a climate of scarcity, where testing slots are few and far between, you end up making a lot of “lesser of two evils” decisions. I suppose you could make the claim that the designations decreased because they were artificially inflated to begin with. Given that designations are affirmed on a preponderance of evidence, usually including a Psychoeducational Assessment delivered by an accredited educational psychologist, I’m not really persuaded by that idea. What it really comes down to is that, if you have a student you suspect of being Learning Disabled (unfunded), and another student you suspect of having a Mild Intellectual disability (funded), and you’ve only got one slot with the educational psychologist in this round of testing, then you probably go with the student whose diagnosis is more likely to result in additional EA support or specialist teachers. Finally, during the Liberal years, the system saw massive reductions in funding as a percentage of GDP. Consequently, BC teachers are among the lowest paid in the country, and BC students receive fewer dollars in funding. The BCTF took the BC Government to court and eventually won back their class size & composition language. This necessitated a massive and ongoing teacher hiring spree. However, the government has not yet increased funding by any notable amount above what was required by BCTF’s court win. Whenever Horgan or Rob Fleming crow about how much more the NDP are spending on education these days, it’s kind of like an white collar criminal crowing about how much they volunteer after being court ordered to do community service. The Prevalence Model I’m just going to copy and paste parts of a BCTF articles on it: quote:[Prevalence funding is] funding allocated via predictive, statistical modelling based on population-wide prevalence rates instead. Such a model already exists in some provinces. For example, in Ontario, a large part of special education funding is distributed according to a “black box” statistical model that takes older provincial prevalence rates and tries to guess how many children in a given district will have special needs, based on chosen demographic information such as family income.” Can it work? Sure. I think some districts will do quite well. Districts with great leadership will probably benefit from the flexibility it affords. But I work in a district with lots of poverty and generational trauma, and with students whose parents are (by and large) ineffective advocates (and I say that without any judgment). We already fight tooth and nail for the supports we do have, and in my district at least, thinks still haven't actually improved in terms of class size & composition since the SCC win. We continue to lose EAs. There is no way we do better under prevalence than we do now. And, they haven't given any indication that funding will increase, or that the statistical models will take into account regional variations or needs (e.g. how much harder it is to get an autism diagnosis when you live in Prince George versus Richmond). From the Funding Model Report to Collective Bargaining So this funding model report comes out and it recommends moving to a prevalence model. In the report, the collective bargaining rights and the integrity of the BCTF is attacked. The report claims that a prevalence model is more equitable and inclusive, and it criticizes class size & composition language as exclusionary and harmful. The class size and composition ratios are repeatedly described as "restrictive" and as a source of frustration. It has lines like "students in some school districts have access to greater supports than their counterparts in other school districts", but these are meant to shame districts with superior provisions. It's implied that students are better off in districts with weaker composition language. All of this is asserted without evidence and none of it matches the experience on the ground. Now, from a narrow point of view, the Ministry is correct. The ratios do occasionally result in exclusions, and Inclusion consultants like Shelly Moore carry water for the Ministry on this point. But what I want to reiterate is that the ratios set a baseline for student services. Districts are always free to lobby the Ministry for more money, or to simply hire more EAs or specialist teachers by prioritizing such things in their annual budgets. Absent composition language, special needs students have a weaker claim to supports, classes suffer from being too large or having ability gaps too unmanageable, and any subsequent dysfunction is treated as the failure on the part of the teacher. It is my firm belief that any act of exclusion - of a Spec. Ed. student being sent home or told not to come to school - represents a failure by the district to comply with their own (mutually agreed-to) collective agreement language, and not a moral failure of the BCTF for fighting for such ratios in the first place. This funding model review began under the Liberals but was published under the NDP, and so the anti-union rhetoric was an extra hard slap in the face. The reaction was strong enough that its implementation was delayed by at least a year. However, implementation working groups are ongoing. At the recent BCTF annual general meeting, we debated pretty extensively whether or not we want to remain at the table for these working groups, given that their goal is implementation and not a new funding model review or proposal. My faction said no, walk away, let's not be complicit in this, there's other ways to pressure the Ministry; the other faction said there was greater value in staying at the table and trying to mitigate the damage. The other faction won, and so the BCTF remains at the table. says its used against us when the prevalence model goes ahead, but whatever. 2019 also saw the start of this round of contract negotiations between the BCTF and the Ministry. We're still not allowed to talk about what's been tabled, but I will say that it looks more and more like the NDP have let the Liberals' bureaucrats continue with business as usual, because between the funding model report and what's happening at the bargaining table, the Libs may as well still be in power. just another fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Apr 25, 2019 |
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Pixelante posted:Thank you. This must have taken you some time to assemble. I'm still interested in connecting if you ever feel comfortable emailing me--we might be able to help each other out. I'm also in the E/N Discord pretty often. Not sure how reputable People's Voice is but they just put out a good write-up of the situation today. Some key points I missed: quote:“... From the outset, unfortunately, the [funding model] review process [that recommended prevalence] has appeared to have serious flaws. For starters, Fleming appointed a review panel of senior bureaucrats to conduct a funding-formula review but didn’t include any representation from the BCTF, the B.C. School Trustees Association, or parent groups on the panel. Although senior bureaucrats have vast knowledge and experience, they tend to get to where they are by not rocking any boats or telling those in power things they don’t want to hear…
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2019 18:24 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:As long as our governments focus solely on surviving the four year election cycle the only thing we can expect I'd short term promises while kicking the ever growing ball of climate and economic problems down the road for the next government to ignore in favour of shirt term promises. Bring back divine rule imo
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2019 15:54 |
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Leofish posted:Holy poo poo they are so dumb
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2019 21:48 |
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THC posted:the BC NDP cabinet is good though "better than the liberals" ≠ "good" edit: They're trying to enact the Liberals' education policies under cover of bread & circus press releases about infrastructure spending and legally mandated teacher hiring, so I would say they are in fact not good, but bad. just another fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Apr 30, 2019 |
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drat, Helsing. You've gotten surly.
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# ¿ May 3, 2019 01:55 |
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BC Ed. Chat: From Facebook -- could be fake news but it's in line with what we've seen so far: quote:UPDATE: Here's some more insider info from the Ministry of Educ as was talking with someone working in there and a heads up. Basically, their intention is to drag out the bargaining process as long as possible into the following next year expecting the teachers to eventually strike instead of trying to settle right away by end of June. Thus seen from the late bargaining start and stalling tactics. From the BCTF: quote:The BCTF Bargaining Team needs your help My money is on a strike. just another fucked around with this message at 16:28 on May 8, 2019 |
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infernal machines posted:Oh, word. Yeah, I'm all for Orange Crush 2019. I've seen him speak in person and that won't help. He should just go full hog on aloofness and hope people are intrigued.
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# ¿ May 8, 2019 20:37 |
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BC Ed Chat:quote:Now, former Vancouver School Board chair and public education advocate Patti Bacchus says she’s hearing from multiple sources close to the bargaining that the [class size and composition] issue is once again front and centre. Carole James is baldly lying and her Liberal newspeak doesn't exonerate her. They are straightforwardly asking for concessions on language that the BCTF only just won back after a 14 year court battle. just another fucked around with this message at 21:25 on May 15, 2019 |
# ¿ May 15, 2019 21:22 |
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What was life like in Missouri (besides "lol the south" or whatever)?
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# ¿ May 17, 2019 02:41 |
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BC Ed Chat: Met with my local MLA to discuss the issues at the bargaining table. They were (or pretended to be, if I'm being cynical) largely oblivious to what's been going on and were slightly indignant at the idea that Horgan was misrepresenting what the NDP has done for education. Recap: Almost all new funding that is being touted by the NDP is a consequence of the SCC win, or funding obligations that are beyond NDP control. Capital investment (i.e. seismic upgrades, new playgrounds, etc) are very welcome, but the NDP have provided very little additional funding to operations (teacher salary, specialist teacher ratios, per-pupil funding etc.) The current employer (i.e. BCPSEA) proposals indicate a commitment to undoing the SCC win by...
BC students are already among the worst funded in the country, and BC teachers are the second-lowest paid. My district alone would be receiving an additional $4 - 6 million/year right now if funding as a percentage of the provincial budget remained unchanged after Liberals took power in 2001. There have been huge cuts. Yet, if the employer/NDP get their way, there will be job losses throughout the province, and services will be cut for the majority of students. There isn't a single employer proposal on the table that articulates any desire for the education system except for it to cost less. There is no vision, no initiative. Ontario's education woes are getting all the press because Ford is a bombastic jackass, but what the NDP & BCPSEA have tabled in BC is equally ruinous. Importantly, BCPSEA's hands are tied. Unless their funding envelope is increased, or their mandate is radically redefined/reinterpreted, then we are at an impasse. But that is up to the NDP, and the NDP is still behaving like they're the Liberals circa 2014. just another fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Jun 6, 2019 |
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ARACHTION posted:Thanks for that post, for what it’s worth, I emailed my mla after reading your post. Really looks like we’re going to have to strike in Sept? Even if we move in to job action, it'll start small before ramping up. Work-to-rule and rotating strikes. What stood out to me when I met my MLA was how oblivious they were to the BCTFs concerns, despite all the noise we've been making online. To their credit, once our message started getting through, they kept us behind to ask more in-depth questions and have an informal discussion. I didn't get the impression that we were merely being humored. This was a very good reminder that Twitter isn't real life, and that conflating social media signal boosting with "real" political action is distorting if not self-defeating. Retweets and likes are no substitute for meeting and conversing in the flesh.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2019 22:01 |
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THC posted:K-12 is conspicuously absent as one of the predefined options on the BC NDP's annual survey asking supporters what we want the government to prioritize. I used the "other" and comment boxes to say they should implement teachers' recommendations on class size and composition. I have also contacted my MLA for whatever good that does. Thank you for reminding me. BC Goons, please complete this: https://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/5053...WwNZEB9A4ujjvnk Feel free to write in education as a concern.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2019 22:36 |
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Does anyone have suggestions for books or essays that are pro-pipeline/pro-resource extraction/pro-free market capitalism despite climate change? I don't mean dumb /r/ancap type stuff. I mean what the Conservative & neoliberal policymakers and bureaucrats are reading to inform/legitimize their politics. Context: Just got a grant for a regional conference and its kernel is the intersections of anti-poverty, Reconciliation, and environmental justice in the North. The BCTF has an inclination towards bumper sticker activism but I don't want to tilt at windmills -- the topic is too important.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2019 20:54 |
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Defenistrator posted:It's got the wvurst name but the bvest food The food is very good and a bygone friend designed the interior. This post hereby satisfies my monthly non-BC Ed Chat posting quota thank you.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2019 23:14 |
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So serious question: which parts of Canada will be least affected, or may see things improve, during climate change? I'm assuming the southern prairies in particular are going to look more and more like deserts, but what about places like the Peace River region in the north? edit - a shameful typo just another fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Jun 19, 2019 |
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I don't know... all the indicators point to where I live becoming substantially more livable for humans over the next 100 years. It's just a shame that the things that will make the north coast nicer will also obliterate the local ecosystem and probably make wildfires a local hazard.
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2019 19:48 |
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flakeloaf posted:Say hi to the tens of millions of humans who go there to escape unlivable conditions where their homes used to be.
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2019 20:20 |
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Poor phrasing. I meant the brochure's going to get a lot better as the Terms of Service get a lot worse. Rime posted:Whoa, this is awesome. This has all the data I've been trying to find on statscan for weeks, in one convenient place! Considerable thanks, this is really fantastic. Woah you're in Hazelton?
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2019 23:03 |
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I might need to pick your brain sometime. I'm early days planning a regional teachers conference themed around the intersections of economic justice, climate justice, and Reconciliation in Northern BC, and you seem to be the CanPol Cassandra for climate change.
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2019 23:09 |
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Postess with the Mostest posted:She warned us yesterday
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2019 16:22 |
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infernal machines posted:Not to go all here, but do you think y'all could stop calling for the death of public figures before Lowtax gets a visit from the RCMP?
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2019 16:34 |
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Pleads posted:That's not it, juggalos are good now. whoop whoop
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2019 03:51 |
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infernal machines posted:You're surprised the ONDP can't capitalize on the simplest, most obvious ways of connecting with people and getting their brand out there? They keep hitting me up for money in BC despite my continuing to tell them to go gently caress themselves until they change BCPSEA's mandate.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2019 19:40 |
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Normy posted:This is the most progressive platform the NDP has put out in recent memory. Insofar as they can't imagine a politics more radical than a kindler, gentler capitalism -- yay.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2019 03:25 |
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Helsing posted:2) You're overestimating the freedom of maneuvre for rank and file MPs. In our current parliamentary system the leader is all that matters. MPs are creatures of the leader, typically with less authority than the party leaders staffers. Furthermore, MPs have fought so hard to get where they are that they became naturally conservative. They think that after everything they struggled to get where they are it must have all been in service of something, so they make compromises. They stay quiet. They get comfortable. They become used to towing the party line. They start to really think that whatever compromises they made to preserve their career were actually necessary for the sake of the movement.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2019 16:07 |
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That article is skimpy on details. Is there a better source for info on Hamilton's fascism problem, or is a molehill being signal boosted into a mountain? I'm surprised I don't see more stories about anti-FN racism given its proximity to Six Nations.
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2019 04:36 |
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BC Ed update: We're in mediation now. It won't go anywhere because the employer's hands are still tied by an inadequate funding envelope from the NDP. We've made almost zero progress since bargaining began and the NDP are still asking us to voluntarily give up what we got back through the SCC court win. It's increasingly looking like cowardice at the BCTF executive table. We keep being asked to 'put the pressure on' MLAs etc. but it's feeling more and more like they're keeping is distracted from the fact that they haven't done very much to turn up the heat themselves. I'm going to start poking around to see if there are enough malcontents out there to start agitating to topple the government (politically, RCMP).
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2019 18:42 |
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Jan posted:Guillotines are a political instrument! There's no better alternative, at least for the BCTF. But it's also not clear to me that there's a worse alternative for the BCTF at the moment. We may as well be bargaining with the Liberals. I don't want to be insensitive to the other ways the NDP had been good for the province, but I'm also not busting my rear end as a union activist so that I can ultimately strike a Confucian pose about our position in the province.
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2019 19:30 |
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Weird BIAS posted:Also my mom is seriously considering the possibility of striking for the first time in her 30 odd year career as a teacher because of how scared she is of the UCP, and my stepdad is suggesting they do it with the nurses union.
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