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For years, I've been posting about Mueller literally being accused by other FBI agents of killing any investigation into the 9/11 hijackers ties to the Saudi government and had it ignored or called a conspiracy theory. Cannot wait to finally hear about it from news media talking heads who suddenly think its relevant for some reason.
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Jyppe posted:lol dude, they were already asking about it: I'm referring to a completely different occurence. Here's the best summary: https://harpers.org/archive/2017/10/crime-and-punishment-4/2/ quote:San Diego looms large in the recorded history of 9/11, though not because it was the focal point of the plot. While preparing for the operation, the future hijackers had been dispersed around the country, in such places as New Jersey and Florida. The reason we know so much about the West Coast activities of the hijackers is largely because of Michael Jacobson, a burly former FBI lawyer and counterterrorism analyst who worked as an investigator for the Joint Inquiry. Reviewing files at FBI headquarters, he came across a stray reference to a bureau informant in San Diego who had known one of the hijackers. Intrigued, he decided to follow up in the San Diego field office. Bob Graham, the former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, told me recently that Robert Mueller, then the FBI director (and now the special counsel investigating connections between Russia and the Trump campaign) made “the strongest objections” to Jacobson and his colleagues visiting San Diego. SickZip fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Mar 26, 2019 |
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Mar 26, 2019 19:26
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:drat I was trying to remember which of those were the one I was thinking of and the answer was neither - Michael Hastings, now there's a good conspiracy. A journalist working to expose instances of surveillance by intelligence agencies, expresses that he knows the FBI is investigating him, is "onto a big story" and needs to go "off the radar", and also expresses that he thinks his car has been tampered with. He immediately dies in a single-vehicle crash the next day in which his car was flooring it and on fire. The FBI denies investigating him, misses FOIA deadlines when questioned about it, eventually revealing they had lied and had opened an unusual investigation because of his journalism. There's a fuckin' conspiracy. You left out the part where members of SOCOM had threatened his life and he told people he had something big on John Brennan, who was head of the CIA at the time, right before his accident
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Mar 26, 2019 19:37
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Luckyellow posted:My conspiracy theory is that every single think tank has somebody reading D&D and C-spam and pick the best lines/ideas and push it while putting their spin on it. The other way around. There were posters being paid to push products here over a decade ago. You're nuts if you think some of the leading posters arent social media experts working for pay
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Mar 26, 2019 20:31
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RaySmuckles posted:ok, thanks for the responses. sorry if i came in really hot. i'm gonna let this go for now just to not think about it all day and let the thread continue on cuz i do love me some conspiracy theories. You're missing the best part of this conspiracy. quote:On September 10, 2001 Rumsfeld called a dramatic press conference at the Pentagon to make a startling announcement. Referring to the huge military budget that was his official responsibility, he said, “According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions.” This shocking news that an amount more than five times as large as the Pentagon’s FY 2001 budget of an estimated $313 billion was lost or even just “untrackable” was—at least for one 24-hour news cycle—a big national story, as was Secretary Rumsfeld’s comment that America’s adversary was not China or Russia, but rather was “closer to home: It’s the Pentagon bureaucracy.” Equally stunning was Rumsfeld’s warning that the tracking down of those missing transactions “could be…a matter of life and death.”
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Mar 29, 2019 00:15
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http://web.archive.org/web/20070222070344/http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/12-01/12-20-01/a02wn018.htmquote:One Army office in the Pentagon lost 34 of its 65 employees in the attack. Most of those killed in the office, called Resource Services Washington, were civilian accountants, bookkeepers and budget analysts. They were at their desks when American Airlines Flight 77 struck.
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Mar 29, 2019 00:20
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Mnoba posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=W5hExv_vcGM LBJ had the CIA insert moles in the Goldwater campaign, conduct illegal wiretaps, bug his offices and plane, and use their Mockingbird network to become ghostwriters on new stories about him. This is all established historical fact. Its only fitting that the Goldwater reboot got the same treatment. Its cool that some stuff thats obviously true will forever be called a conspiracy no matter that the level of verification it gets. I call this the USS Liberty Effect
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Mar 29, 2019 13:54
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Reminder that the Washington Post called Israel deliberately attacking the USS Liberty a conspiracy theory back in December while you can read the transcripts of the Israeli pilots chatter straight from their national archives andquote:Israeli pilot to IDF war room: This is an American ship. Do you still want us to attack?
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Mar 29, 2019 14:02
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All the talk of Iran-Contra and I've never seen anyone post about the revelation that George HW Bush was the leaker who revealed it to the world. That was a twist that even conspiracy theorists wouldn't have believed. The reveal that one of the biggest and most illegal conspiracies of modern political history was revealed because it was stepping on the toes of an even deeper and more illegal conspiracy is one for the ages
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Mar 29, 2019 16:54
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RaySmuckles posted:please, go on https://www.lrb.co.uk/v41/n02/seymour-m-hersh/the-vice-presidents-men The tldr is that Bush thought Reagan and his pick to lead the CIA were clowns so he setup a completely illegal intelligence operation that conducted operations in foreign countries with no authorization from the president or Congress. The Iran Contra stuff started stepping on their toes so Bush leaked the info with the idea that the head of the CIA takes the fall and Reagan's clumsy cowboy operation ends. Except their fall guy gets brain cancer and becomes too dead to fill the role and everything spirals out of their control and becomes a major scandal when it was meant to be an embarrassment SickZip fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Mar 30, 2019 |
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Mar 30, 2019 02:57
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Sodomy Hussein posted:It's way simpler than what's being suggested re:Putin anyway. Fox News is coming out against it, so that's end of story for Venezuela intervention. Does he have any isolationist cabinet members left? I'm pretty sure they've all been forced to resign and he's left with representatives of the standard Republican foreign policy. So the consequent incoherence is heavily resulting from the dissonance between a executive with isolationists tendencies but lacking firm ideas being surrounded by hawks with very firm ideas. Since this is the conspiracy thread, I'll say that the fall of the isolationist wing of the cabinet almost certainly wasn't coincidence.
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May 9, 2019 18:42
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Panzeh posted:I'm pretty sure Trump has no meaningful isolationist tendency and it's mostly election messaging for him. Nah, there's a lot you can say is mostly election messaging from him but his disinclination toward standard american foreign policy and levels of interventionism has been pretty obvious and turned up in his comments well before he was running. There's no firm principals or moral stances about it, he just seems temperamentally disinclined toward it due to not seeing the kind of easy profit he understands in most of it. SickZip fucked around with this message at 17:42 on May 10, 2019 |
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May 10, 2019 17:34
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:when the big wet boy says the things i like to hear, it is because he really believes them https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/ilanbenmeir/that-time-trump-spent-nearly-100000-on-an-ad-criticizing-us From 1987 quote:"For decades, Japan and other nations have been taking advantage of the United States," the letter declares. "The saga continues unabated as we defend the Persian Gulf, an area of only marginal significance to the United States for its oil supplies, but one upon which Japan and others are almost totally dependent." His views of US foreign policy are incredibly consistent
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May 10, 2019 19:14
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VitalSigns posted:Right that's why he's trying to start a war with Iran, his incredibly consistent belief that the Persian Gulf is only of marginal significance to the United States I understand the temptation to think your opponents/enemies are some weird irrational conflux of all that is bad and evil but its loving up your ability to understand events and people. The themes and ideas of his foreign policy then is the same as it was on the campaign is the same as it is now whenever he's off the leash. The difference is circumstance. He might be naturally disinterested in the existing international order and the military actions used to enforce it but even Trump's stated reason for his opposition to involvement in the region was that it wasn't profitable not that it wasn't moral. No one can accuse Iran's enemies of being unwilling to pay. And for him personally, hostility toward Iran is one of most valuable thing he can offer to his backers and to elements of the Republican party and Washington that he has to keep at least neutral to survive. SickZip fucked around with this message at 20:14 on May 10, 2019 |
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