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R. Guyovich: Dec 25, 1991

Raskolnikov38 posted:

guyovich please merge this and the qanon thread

this is the all-purpose conspiracy thread, which now includes speculation on the #Russiagate investigation. qanon is kind of its own thing still, but might get folded into this thread at some point. have at it.

mods reserve the right to punish people here capriciously, solely to fuel forum-wide conspiracy theories. remember, admins can edit posts with no trace. maybe i will edit all your posts to make you look like a raving lunatic. the sky is the limit.

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# ? Mar 25, 2019 13:43

Helsing: Aug 23, 2003; DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU JOE BIDEN

This post is probably pointless because it doesn't seem like any of the Russia-gate enthusiasts are ready to reconsider anything but I can't resist doing a rehash of how ludicrous it was to have the liberal media and so many posters on this forum lining up behind men like James Clapper or Robert Mueller or acting like a bunch of statements from the intelligence "community" were actually reliable.

These guys were some of the same people - literally the same people - who sold the war in Iraq and who oversaw the dismantling of civil liberties following 9/11.

In the media it was reported that the entire intelligence community had worked together to produce the ICA Report "Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections". Later the New York Times was forced to retract that claim and acknowledge that actually the entire analysis had only come from about a dozen agents (all anonymous) who were working within only three agencies (FBI, NSA, CIA) and who were "hand picked" by one James Clapper. The entire basis of the "Russia hacked the election" narrative was a report that was put together by a handful of men chosen by one guy. I think anyone who has a basic familiarity with large bureacracies should be able to appreciate that when a senior manager "hand picks" a team to write a report that senior manager often has a pretty good idea of what the report will say just based on who he is choosing to write it.

Especially cause Mr. James Clapper has a bit of history when it comes to stuff like this. He was in charge of the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency during the build up to the Iraq war, making him responsible for analyzing satellite imagery of Iraq during the build up to the invasion there. He was rewarded for his hard work in 2007 when Bush II made him Undersecretary of Defense (Obama, seeing the wisdom of having such an august civil servant on call kept him in this job after the election). In 2010 this Republican veteran of the Bush administration was wisely made Director of National Intelligence by the post partisan President Obama. In this capacity he continued to serve the Republic without fear or favour. In the incident that Edward Snowden would later identify as the moment that pushed him into leaking, Clapper courageously perjured himself before Congress in 2013 by denying the existence of the NSA's mass surveillance program. He later confessed that he had spoken "erroneously" but he not only wasn't prosecuted, he also kept his job.

Perhaps because his 50 years of experience in the intelligence world gave him the following amazing tradecraft insights, such as Russians being genetically inclined toward duplicitous behavior:

quote:

FMR. DIR. JAMES CLAPPER: Well, yes they would have and just to reinforce John Brennan�s, former director of central intelligence agency, his comments before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and I have to say that, without specific...specifically affirming or confirming these conversations, since, even though they�re in the public realm, they�re still classified, just from a theoretical standpoint, I will tell you that my dashboard warning light was clearly on and I think that was the case with all of us in the intelligence community, very concerned about the nature of these approaches to the Russians. If you put that in context with everything else we knew the Russians were doing to interfere with the election. And just the historical practices of the Russians, who typically, almost genetically driven to co-opt, penetrate, gain favor, whatever, which is a typical Russian technique. So we were concerned.

Wow, I'm really surprised that a life long national security ghoul with a history of outright perjuring himself before Congress and a theory of Russia that says that lying is in their DNA could have raised false expectations about this probe.

And just while we're on the topic let's do a quick rehash of who Comey and Mueller were:

quote:

No, Robert Mueller And James Comey Aren�t Heroes

The former FBI directors have acceded to numerous wrongful abuses of power in the post-9/11 era.
06/06/2017 09:10 am ET Updated Jun 09, 2017

Commentators display amnesia when they describe former FBI Directors Robert Mueller and James Comey as stellar and credible law enforcement figures. Perhaps if they included J. Edgar Hoover, such fulsome praise could be put into proper perspective. Although these Hoover successors, now occupying center stage in the investigation of President Trump, have been hailed for their impeccable character by much of official Washington, the truth is, as top law enforcement officials of the Bush administration (Mueller as FBI Director and James Comey as Deputy Attorney General), both presided over post-9/11 cover-ups and secret abuses of the Constitution, enabled Bush-Cheney fabrications to launch wrongful wars, and exhibited plain vanilla incompetence.

TIME Magazine would probably have not called my own disclosures a �bombshell memo� to the Joint Intelligence Committee Inquiry in May 2002 if it had not been for Mueller�s having so misled everyone after 9/11. Although he bore no personal responsibility for intelligence failures before the attack, since he only became FBI Director a week before, Mueller denied or downplayed the significance of warnings that had poured in yet were all ignored or mishandled during the spring and summer of 2001. Bush administration officials had circled the wagons and refused to publicly own up to what the 9/11 Commission eventually concluded, �that the system had been blinking red.� Failures to read, share or act upon important intelligence, which a FBI agent witness termed �criminal negligence� in later trial testimony, were therefore not fixed in a timely manner. (Actually some failures were never fixed.) Worse, Bush and Cheney used that post-9/11 period of obfuscation to �roll out� their misbegotten �war on terror,� which only served to exponentially increase worldwide terrorism.

I wanted to believe Director Mueller when he expressed some regret in our personal meeting the night before we both testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee. He told me he was seeking improvements and that I should not hesitate to contact him if I ever witnessed a situation as that behind the FBI�s pre-9/11 failures. A few months later, when it appeared he was acceding to Bush-Cheney�s ginning up intelligence to launch the unjustified, counterproductive and illegal war on Iraq, I took Mueller up on his offer, emailing him my concerns in late February 2003. Mueller knew, for instance, that Cheney�s claims connecting 9/11 to Iraq were bogus yet he remained quiet. He also never responded to my email.

In the aftermath of the attacks, Mueller directed the �post-9/11 round-up� of around 1,000 immigrants who mostly happened to be in the wrong place (NYC area) at the wrong time, as FBI Headquarters encouraged more and more detentions for what seemed to be essentially PR purposes. Field offices were required to report daily the number of detentions in order to supply grist for FBI press releases about FBI �progress� in fighting terrorism. Consequently, some of the detainees were brutalized and jailed for up to a year despite the fact that none turned out to be terrorists.

Long before he became FBI Director, serious questions existed about Mueller�s role as Acting U.S. Attorney in Boston in effectively enabling decades of corruption and covering up of the FBI�s illicit deals with mobster Whitey Bulger and other �top echelon� informants who committed numerous murders and crimes. When the truth was finally uncovered through intrepid investigative reporting and persistent, honest judges, U.S. taxpayers footed a $100 million court award to the four men framed for murders committed by (the FBI operated) Bulger gang.

Current media applause omits the fact that former FBI Director Mueller was the top official in charge of the Anthrax terror fiasco investigation into the 2001 murders, which targeted an innocent man (Steven Hatfill) whose lawsuit eventually forced the FBI to pay $5 million in compensation. Mueller�s FBI was also severely criticized by Department of Justice Inspector Generals finding the FBI overstepped the law improperly serving hundreds of thousands of �national security letters� to obtain private (and irrelevant) metadata on citizens, and for infiltrating nonviolent anti-war groups under the guise of investigating �terrorism.�

For his part, Deputy Attorney General James Comey, too, went along with Bush and Cheney after 9/11 and signed off on a number of highly illegal programs including warrantless surveillance of Americans and torture of captives. Comey also defended the Bush administration�s three year-long detention of an American citizen without charges or right to counsel.

Up to the March 2004 night in Attorney General John Ashcroft�s hospital room, both Comey and Mueller were complicit with implementing a form of martial law, perpetrated via secret Office of Legal Counsel memos mainly written by John Yoo and predicated upon Yoo�s singular theories of absolute �imperial� or �war presidency� powers, and requiring Ashcroft every 90 days to renew certification of a �state of emergency.� What�s not well understood is that Comey and Mueller�s joint intervention to stop Bush�s men from forcing the sick AG to sign that night was a short-lived moment. A few days later, they all simply went back to the drawing board to draft new legal loopholes to continue the same (unconstitutional) surveillance of Americans. The mythology of this episode, repeated endlessly throughout the press, is that Comey and Mueller did something significant and lasting in that hospital room. They didn�t. Only the legal rationale for their unconstitutional actions was tweaked.

Mueller was even OK with the CIA conducting torture programs after his own agents warned against participation. Agents were simply instructed not to document such torture, and any �war crimes files� were made to disappear. Not only did �collect it all� surveillance and torture programs continue, but Mueller�s (and then Comey�s) FBI later worked to prosecute NSA and CIA whistleblowers who revealed these illegalities.

Neither Comey nor Mueller�who are reported to be �joined at the hip��deserve their current lionization among politicians and mainstream media. Instead of Jimmy Stewart-like �G-men� with reputations for principled integrity, the two close confidants and collaborators merely proved themselves, along with former CIA Director George �Slam Dunk� Tenet, reliably politicized sycophants, enmeshing themselves in a series of wrongful abuses of power along with official incompetence.

It seems clear that based on his history and close �partnership� with Comey, �one of the closest working relationships the top ranks of the Justice Department have ever seen,� Mueller was chosen as Special Counsel not because he has integrity but because he will do what the powerful want him to do. He didn�t speak the truth about a war he knew to be unjustified. He didn�t speak out against torture. He didn�t speak out against unconstitutional surveillance. And he didn�t tell the truth about 9/11. He is just their man.

Coleen Rowley, a retired FBI special agent and division legal counsel whose May 2002 memo to then-FBI Director Robert Mueller exposed some of the FBI�s pre-9/11 failures, was named one of TIME magazine�s �Persons of the Year� in 2002. Her 2003 letter to Robert Mueller in opposition to launching the Iraq War is archived in full text on the NYT and her 2013 op-ed entitled �Questions for the FBI Nominee� was published on the day of James Comey�s confirmation hearing. This piece will also be cross-posted on Consortiumnews.com.

# ? Mar 25, 2019 14:37

Helsing: Aug 23, 2003; DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU JOE BIDEN

What's that I hear you saying? Does this mean the whole thing was pointless? Of course not. It was extremely useful if you happened to be a Democrat who desperately needed to change the conversation for two years and distract your own followers from questions like "how the gently caress did we just lose that election?"

But like, I'm sure the Democrats deciding to worship at the altar of the national security state had no implications for the party, right?

Politico posted:

Democrats are looking to turn the Donald Trump resistance movement into an army of candidates to try to take back the House in 2018.

Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee leaders have already met with 255 potential candidates across 64 districts, convinced that the shifting political environment has opened new opportunities that they�ll chase in next year�s midterms.

A rough profile of their ideal candidate has started to emerge: veterans, preferably with small business experience too. They�d like as many of them to be women or people who�ve never run for office before � and having young children helps.

With the 2018 Senate map tilted heavily in Republicans� favor, House races may prove the first real test for how much 2016 was a realignment election, and how much Democrats are able to turn the energy in the streets against President Donald Trump into actually winning races.

quote:

The special election for the seat formerly held by Tom Price, who now serves as Health and Human Services secretary, is proving a test case of this approach: The DCCC has been holding focus groups of people who went with Mitt Romney in 2012 and Hillary Clinton in 2016, who look to them like potentially trending blue voters.

In addition to the veteran-specific recruiting and ongoing outreach to women, they�re leaning heavily on their new five regional recruitment vice chair system to provide more personal attention to both prospective candidates and donors.

�The road to 218 is going to take us in many places that conventional wisdom would suggest that we shouldn�t look � and the road to 218 is going to take us to the South,� said Rep. Don McEachin (D-Va.), a freshman responsible for recruiting in the south who�s talking to potential candidates in North Carolina, Georgia and Florida, as well as further reach territory like South Carolina, Mississippi and Alabama.

Oh nevermind. I can see that after some deep reflection about where it went wrong the Democrats have come up with a bold new strategy of running ex-military small business owners and basing their message on appealing to Republican swing voters.

Don't worry though I'm sure that is just a pragmatic decision they made based on what they earnestly believe will protect the most people from Trump. It definitely definitely definitely wasn't motivated by the fact the top donors and consultants at the DNC are terrified at the prospect that a grassroots insurgency in their own party might gently caress up the grift they've been perfecting for the last 40 years. No way would they be leaning on fear about Russia to try and mute any criticisms of themselves or to redirect anger away from their own failures. What an absurd notion. It's a good thing that the various versions of the Russia-gate thread spent so much energy driving away anyone who speculated about that.

# ? Mar 25, 2019 14:49

redneck nazgul: Apr 25, 2013

mueller let trump off the hook because he agreed to play nice with the military industrial complex by saber rattling in central america

# ? Mar 25, 2019 15:10

RasperFat: Jul 11, 2006; Uncertainty is inherently unsustainable. Eventually, everything either is or isn't.

While a lot of the media hype has been bullshit, it seems fairly obvious that Trump has been neck deep in illicit business with Russians for a while.

The fatal flaw is that it�s boring money laundering white collar crimes. Russian oligarchs have used Trump to launder money and maybe some other illegal property investments etc. Trump being a Manchurian Candidate is almost certainly tinfoil hat nonsense.

But the problem is Putin has leverage over the oligarchs, and they have illegal deals with Trump, so that opens the door for all sorts of conspiracies to flourish because there has been confirmed financial trails connecting them. It also might legitimately allow Putin to pressure Trump into kowtowing to Russian demands that affect finances. And Trump�s shady avoidance of enforcing/enacting sanctions is another giant red flag, and also provides more fuel to conspiracy theories.

We should never have actually trusted Mueller to do anything about this, given his history of covering up crimes for Republican presidents during his tenure at the FBI. Especially because it�s incredibly likely that enough other Republican politicians, even though it�s probably a tiny minority, also have financial connections to the same criminals Trump does. And to be be honest probably a couple Democrats would be caught up in a sweep of illegal international financial dealings as well.

Actually enforcing laws and doing a real investigation here would likely have just been a strong blow to faith in the government and democracy, which is an outcome nobody in power in government wants.

Without getting too :tinfoil:

, it sees insane that any actual investigation into Russian interference and influence in the 2016 election didn�t include a thorough combing of Trump�s real estate empire and international bank connections. The only plausible explanation other than incompetency or partisan hackery is that this route would damage too many powerful people so it was ignored to avoid a shitstorm.

We will probably not find out enough about this entire farcical debacle for another decade or two. It�s just more chaos to add to the insanity that has been the last two year of the Trump presidency. It�s just another frustrating and confusing aspect to having corrupt fascist idiots in our government.

# ? Mar 26, 2019 11:02

SickZip: Jul 29, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

For years, I've been posting about Mueller literally being accused by other FBI agents of killing any investigation into the 9/11 hijackers ties to the Saudi government and had it ignored or called a conspiracy theory. Cannot wait to finally hear about it from news media talking heads who suddenly think its relevant for some reason.

# ? Mar 26, 2019 14:29

Jyppe: Jun 13, 2007; For the Fireman!

SickZip posted:

For years, I've been posting about Mueller literally being accused by other FBI agents of killing any investigation into the 9/11 hijackers ties to the Saudi government and had it ignored or called a conspiracy theory. Cannot wait to finally hear about it from news media talking heads who suddenly think its relevant for some reason.

lol dude, they were already asking about it:
https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20180910/anderson-did-mueller-mislead-public-about-911

This is about the Florida Bulldog article with the "unnamed FBI source", right?

The original bulldog article claimed that there were phone records between the parties, but the FOI request itself disputes that (at the bottom): http://www.floridabulldog.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/FBI-RECORD-RELEASE.pdf

Seems like the only link was that one of the "family members" was a student of the same flight school as some of the attackers. (I don't think it says if they were there at the same time)

if you have better sources, please post them.

# ? Mar 26, 2019 18:26

Jeffrey of YOSPOS: Dec 22, 2005; GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

Hillary Clinton rapes children in a pizza restaurant. She's already got one confirmed kill on an SA forums mod so I'm risking my life to say it, but the world needs to know.

FAQ:
I'm a kid, what can I do to protect myself?
Don't get pizza with Hillary Clinton.

# ? Mar 26, 2019 18:41

Typo: Aug 19, 2009; Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

justice for vince foster

# ? Mar 26, 2019 18:48

Typo: Aug 19, 2009; Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

I mean seth rich sorry i got my clinton bodybags mixed up

# ? Mar 26, 2019 18:51

Jeffrey of YOSPOS: Dec 22, 2005; GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

drat I was trying to remember which of those were the one I was thinking of and the answer was neither - Michael Hastings, now there's a good conspiracy. A journalist working to expose instances of surveillance by intelligence agencies, expresses that he knows the FBI is investigating him, is "onto a big story" and needs to go "off the radar", and also expresses that he thinks his car has been tampered with. He immediately dies in a single-vehicle crash the next day in which his car was flooring it and on fire. The FBI denies investigating him, misses FOIA deadlines when questioned about it, eventually revealing they had lied and had opened an unusual investigation because of his journalism. There's a fuckin' conspiracy.

Justice for Michael Hastings.

# ? Mar 26, 2019 19:10

SickZip: Jul 29, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

Jyppe posted:

lol dude, they were already asking about it:
https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20180910/anderson-did-mueller-mislead-public-about-911

This is about the Florida Bulldog article with the "unnamed FBI source", right?

The original bulldog article claimed that there were phone records between the parties, but the FOI request itself disputes that (at the bottom): http://www.floridabulldog.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/FBI-RECORD-RELEASE.pdf

Seems like the only link was that one of the "family members" was a student of the same flight school as some of the attackers. (I don't think it says if they were there at the same time)

if you have better sources, please post them.

I'm referring to a completely different occurence. Here's the best summary:
https://harpers.org/archive/2017/10/crime-and-punishment-4/2/

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San Diego looms large in the recorded history of 9/11, though not because it was the focal point of the plot. While preparing for the operation, the future hijackers had been dispersed around the country, in such places as New Jersey and Florida. The reason we know so much about the West Coast activities of the hijackers is largely because of Michael Jacobson, a burly former FBI lawyer and counterterrorism analyst who worked as an investigator for the Joint Inquiry. Reviewing files at FBI headquarters, he came across a stray reference to a bureau informant in San Diego who had known one of the hijackers. Intrigued, he decided to follow up in the San Diego field office. Bob Graham, the former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, told me recently that Robert Mueller, then the FBI director (and now the special counsel investigating connections between Russia and the Trump campaign) made �the strongest objections� to Jacobson and his colleagues visiting San Diego.

Graham and his team defied Mueller�s efforts, and Jacobson flew west. There he discovered that his hunch was correct. The FBI files in California were replete with extraordinary and damning details, notably the hijackers� close relationship with Omar al-Bayoumi, a Saudi living in San Diego with a no-show job at a local company with connections to the Saudi Ministry of Defense and Aviation. The FBI had investigated his possible connections to Saudi intelligence. A couple of weeks after the two hijackers flew into Los Angeles from Malaysia, in February 2000, he had driven up to the city and met with Fahad al-Thumairy, a cleric employed by his country�s Ministry of Islamic Affairs who worked out of the Saudi Consulate. Thumairy, reported to be an adherent of extreme Wahhabi ideology � he was later denied a U.S. visa on grounds of jihadi connections � was also an imam of the King Fahad mosque in Los Angeles County, which the hijackers had visited soon after their arrival.

After meeting with Thumairy, Bayoumi had driven across town to a Middle Eastern restaurant where he �accidentally� encountered and introduced himself to Hazmi and Mihdhar. He invited them to move to San Diego, found them an apartment, paid their first month�s rent, helped them open a bank account, and introduced them to members of the local Saudi community, including his close friend Osama Bassnan.

During the time Bayoumi was catering to the hijackers� needs, his salary as a ghost employee of the aviation company got a 700 percent boost; it was cut when they left town. That was not his only source of extra funds: After Hazmi and Mihdhar arrived in San Diego, Bassnan�s wife began signing over to Bayoumi�s wife the checks she received from the wife of the Saudi ambassador in Washington. The total value reportedly came to nearly $150,000.

Jacobson also found evidence, noted but seemingly ignored by the bureau, that Hazmi had worked for a San Diego businessman who had himself been the subject of an FBI counterterrorism investigation. Even more amazingly, the two hijackers had been close with an FBI informant, Abdussattar Shaikh. Hazmi had actually lived in his house after Mihdhar left town. Shaikh failed to mention his young Saudi friends� last names in regular reports to his FBI case officer, or that they were taking flying lessons. Understandably, the investigators had a lot of questions for this man. Nevertheless, Mueller adamantly refused their demands to interview him, even when backed by a congressional subpoena, and removed Shaikh to an undisclosed location �for his own safety.� Today, Graham believes that Mueller was acting under orders from the White House.

Another intriguing document unearthed by the investigators in San Diego was a memo from July 2, 2002, discussing alleged financial connections between the September 11 hijackers, Saudi government officials, and members of the Saudi royal family. It stated that there was �incontrovertible evidence that there is support for these terrorists within the Saudi Government.�

SickZip fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Mar 26, 2019

# ? Mar 26, 2019 19:26

SickZip: Jul 29, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

drat I was trying to remember which of those were the one I was thinking of and the answer was neither - Michael Hastings, now there's a good conspiracy. A journalist working to expose instances of surveillance by intelligence agencies, expresses that he knows the FBI is investigating him, is "onto a big story" and needs to go "off the radar", and also expresses that he thinks his car has been tampered with. He immediately dies in a single-vehicle crash the next day in which his car was flooring it and on fire. The FBI denies investigating him, misses FOIA deadlines when questioned about it, eventually revealing they had lied and had opened an unusual investigation because of his journalism. There's a fuckin' conspiracy.

Justice for Michael Hastings.

You left out the part where members of SOCOM had threatened his life and he told people he had something big on John Brennan, who was head of the CIA at the time, right before his accident

# ? Mar 26, 2019 19:37

Luckyellow: Sep 25, 2007; Pillbug

My conspiracy theory is that every single think tank has somebody reading D&D and C-spam and pick the best lines/ideas and push it while putting their spin on it.

# ? Mar 26, 2019 19:51

SickZip: Jul 29, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

Luckyellow posted:

My conspiracy theory is that every single think tank has somebody reading D&D and C-spam and pick the best lines/ideas and push it while putting their spin on it.

The other way around. There were posters being paid to push products here over a decade ago. You're nuts if you think some of the leading posters arent social media experts working for pay

# ? Mar 26, 2019 20:31

Willie Tomg: Feb 2, 2006

SickZip posted:

The other way around. There were posters being paid to push products here over a decade ago. You're nuts if you think some of the leading posters arent social media experts working for pay

GWS owns for this because posters will be like "what's a good blender for making smoothies or whatever?" and Certain Individuals drop a referral link to a commercial vitamix and rack up that store credit.

# ? Mar 26, 2019 20:58

Jeffrey of YOSPOS: Dec 22, 2005; GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

Willie Tomg posted:

GWS owns for this because posters will be like "what's a good blender for making smoothies or whatever?" and Certain Individuals drop a referral link to a commercial vitamix and rack up that store credit.

It's a shame the forums don't rewrite all referral links into ones that make money for the forums. I would totally do that for amazon if I were lowtax.

# ? Mar 26, 2019 21:01

mobby_6kl: Aug 9, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

SickZip posted:

The other way around. There were posters being paid to push products here over a decade ago. You're nuts if you think some of the leading posters arent social media experts working for pay

drat, that finally explains SuperMechaGodzilla.

# ? Mar 26, 2019 21:04

Typo: Aug 19, 2009; Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Luckyellow posted:

My conspiracy theory is that every single think tank has somebody reading D&D and C-spam and pick the best lines/ideas and push it while putting their spin on it.

that would explain their lovely quality LOL

# ? Mar 26, 2019 21:07

Uglycat: Dec 4, 2000; MORE INDISPUTABLE PROOF I AM BAD AT POSTING
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"Innocence of the Muslims" was an FSB joint prove me wrong

# ? Mar 26, 2019 22:17

Name Change: Oct 9, 2005

R. Guyovich posted:

this is the all-purpose conspiracy thread, which now includes speculation on the #Russiagate investigation. qanon is kind of its own thing still, but might get folded into this thread at some point. have at it.

mods reserve the right to punish people here capriciously, solely to fuel forum-wide conspiracy theories. remember, admins can edit posts with no trace. maybe i will edit all your posts to make you look like a raving lunatic. the sky is the limit.

A conspiracy of people charged and convicted of conspiracy, :hmmyes:

# ? Mar 26, 2019 23:56

Typo: Aug 19, 2009; Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

who killed JFK?

# ? Mar 26, 2019 23:59

Typo: Aug 19, 2009; Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Also who killed Seth Rich?

# ? Mar 26, 2019 23:59

Uglycat: Dec 4, 2000; MORE INDISPUTABLE PROOF I AM BAD AT POSTING
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Typo posted:

Also who killed Seth Rich?

I still think it was Putin's doin'

# ? Mar 27, 2019 00:51

Elector_Nerdlingen: Sep 27, 2004

Typo posted:

who killed JFK?

Time travelling Courtney Love.

# ? Mar 27, 2019 06:12

Goatse James Bond: Mar 28, 2010; If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

this isn't the first time Herr Guyovich has attempted to stuff discussion of Trump - Russia relations into a containment thread, but it is the most convenient excuse

# ? Mar 27, 2019 06:27

Goatse James Bond: Mar 28, 2010; If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Typo posted:

who killed JFK?

Rafael Cruz sr

# ? Mar 27, 2019 06:32

Dreylad: Jun 19, 2001

Not sure if it was posted but Taibbi posted a chapter from his upcoming book about the situation here

# ? Mar 27, 2019 07:20

Sheng-Ji Yang: Mar 5, 2014

GreyjoyBastard posted:

this isn't the first time Herr Guyovich has attempted to stuff discussion of Trump - Russia relations into a containment thread, but it is the most convenient excuse

As a believer in a conspiracy theory, I think it is unfair my conspiracy theory is lumped in with other dumb conspiracy theories because mine is real

# ? Mar 27, 2019 19:58

Bicyclops: Aug 27, 2004

Elliott Smith was murdered by the Recording Industry Association of America and also, possibly, Courtney Love.

# ? Mar 27, 2019 21:30

Rodatose: Jul 8, 2008; corn, corn, corn

vilerat and brown moses were undercover agents

# ? Mar 27, 2019 22:11

Jeffrey of YOSPOS: Dec 22, 2005; GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

Rodatose posted:

vilerat and brown moses were undercover agents

Benghazi was vilerat's pink slip - I guess he outlived his usefulness.

# ? Mar 27, 2019 22:15

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Rodatose posted:

vilerat and brown moses were undercover agents

brown moses is CIA

# ? Mar 27, 2019 22:17

Typo: Aug 19, 2009; Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

DnD is like 1970s US communist party: more CIA than actual leftists LOL

# ? Mar 27, 2019 22:31

Typo: Aug 19, 2009; Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

at least half the people posting itt are prob CIA agents

# ? Mar 27, 2019 22:32

AGGGGH BEES: Apr 28, 2018; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

In radicalising Marx you've only created a navel-gazing paralysis: constantly analysing, but afraid to take action. Sure, the investigations thread is gassed now, but you've created a power vacuum--no image to become, just a new hegemony to atomise.

# ? Mar 27, 2019 23:29

mila kunis: Jun 10, 2011

Someone post the best of Louise Mensch. Remember when she was the hero of Russiagaters here lol

# ? Mar 27, 2019 23:53

420 Gank Mid: Dec 26, 2008; WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

AGGGGH BEES posted:

In radicalising Marx you've only created a navel-gazing paralysis: constantly analysing, but afraid to take action. Sure, the investigations thread is gassed now, but you've created a power vacuum--no image to become, just a new hegemony to atomise.

Is this like Avshalom-posting but for Mueller instead of Israel?

# ? Mar 28, 2019 00:18

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There's a long-form Mueller report and all the most damning evidence of Russia collusion is in there

# ? Mar 28, 2019 04:39

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