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Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer
Tankies agreeing with the Senate Majority Leader to own the (neo)libs:
https://twitter.com/politico/status/1156036724734095367

Wonder why he would've said such a thing?

Oh


VitalSigns posted:

Actually no we can't question the intelligence services during this perilous time for our country, how dare you sir, turning over all your electronic correspondence to our loyal spies is a great act of patriotism, oh and also we have to invade Iraq now bc it would be v rude to imply the CIA is incompetent or mendacious when they assure us Saddam is 5 minutes away from building nukular weapons.

Oops looks like we killed more Americans than 9/11 and a half million Iraqis and wrecked an entire region only to find out the CIA was wrong, hmm ah but nevertheless

Most of the evidence for the Russia stuff came from the Dutch, would you like to try again?

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Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

V. Illych L. posted:

literally yes, this would've been a complete shitshow no matter who was president just due to the way the american state is structured

To pretend like "this would've happened regardless" is to be incredibly reductive at best and naive at worst.

SlothfulCobra posted:


People don't talk about enough though how Trump has been proactive about this though. How he actively placed the government in a worse position to deal with the crisis by firing the pandemic response team, defunding the CDC, and generally making the government weaker and less capable. To say nothing of how the current state of politics galvanized his party around denying healthcare under any circumstances and core republicans being even more detached in a fantasy land than ever before.


You'd be hard pressed to think of anybody who ran for president in 2016 or 2020 in either party who could've done as bad or worse at handling this outbreak than Trump. Only ones I could think that comes close is Rand Paul or Ted Cruz because they're both huge idiots that even their own party doesn't like anymore, and Bill DeBlasio because he's also a moron.

Donald J. Trump purposefully made the US less prepared for this outbreak because he dismantled a ton of things simply because Obama had created or expanded them (cutting 80% of funding to the CDCs Global Pandemic Response team, dismantling the "Predict" program to proactively find the next big outbreak amongst animal-borne pathogens, etc.). He put Mike "I had an HIV Outbreak in Indiana" Pence in charge of managing the response. Through John Bolton he fired the National Security Council's global pandemic director and dismantled the entire team. He sabotaged attempts to get cornoavirus tests because he wanted to get them from a company that Jared Kushner was on the board of. The list goes on. And on. And on.

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