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Condiv posted:https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1157485163347140609?s=20 I mentioned this when it came up in the primary thread, but while this points to "bot-like activity", it doesn't actually say anything about who was running the bots. All it does is list which tweets got boosted - and every single one of them took off after being tweeted or retweeted by a black pro-Trump conservative celebrity figure who had close ties to the GOP. Russians aren't the only ones who know how to use bots to pump up tweets.
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Ogmius815 posted:Was Epstein murdered by Hillary Clinton? I'm already seeing Twitter hot takes unironically saying Russia did it.
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Owling Howl posted:Man accostumed to billionaire lifestyle imprisoned on charges of pedophilia, rape and sex trafficking reported to be in good spirits. It's not like it was his first time going to jail for trafficking underage girls. And prison wasn't exactly hell for him the last time around, with the authorities bending over backward to give him every kind of special treatment they could think of.
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Moving this out from the primary thread...MinisterSinister posted:I think that stems from the supposed connections to Trump's campaign that the Russians had (therefore being associated with Russia is shorthand for being associated with Trump), but it's also because those other influencers you listed have goals in mind that don't involve, y'know, the collapse of the American world order and the suffering of our nation. Israel wants US approval and support so it can keep doing... what it's doing in Palestine, and Saudi Arabia wants US support so that Iran doesn't escalate things with them further. Both nations have self-preservation as their main goal in their political involvement in the US, and that is debatably not as bad as what Russia wants. The collapse of the so-called "American world order" will not cause significant suffering to the American people. It might cause significant suffering to American-owned international business interests which have depended on American imperialism to turn other countries into profit centers for US billionaires for more than a century, sure. But the only ill effect that the average American is likely to see from that is whatever trouble is caused as a result of the billionaire interests aggressively lobbying the government to make up for their losses by either utterly destroying the world or utterly destroying American labor law as we know it. Putin doesn't need the US to fall apart, he just needs the US to stop trying to extend its sphere of influence right up to Russia's borders and beyond. Russia has little interest in utterly destroying the US, it just wants the US to be too tied up in domestic matters or isolationism to bother with political meddling in places that are far closer to Russian borders than to American borders. Harming the American empire is not the same as harming Americans. And frankly, if the American Empire literally collapses simply because Russia bought five or six digits worth of Facebook ads and leaked some emails, then we were clearly on the brink of destroying ourselves regardless of that tiny Russian contribution.
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Helsing posted:You're imagining that George "heck'uva job Brownie" Walker Bush would have responded to this crisis? For now I won't even bother arguing with you on that highly dubious assumption. Let us just consider some of the things Bush actually did. Even a conservative estimate of Bush's Iraq war adventure would be that hundreds of thousands of people died as a direct result of his decision to go to war. We can add to that the many millions of additional deaths from the political, social and economic dislocation and additional conflicts the invasion spawned. The entire region is still suffering from Bush's 2003 decision, and that is only one of Bush's foreign policy adventures. Don't forget Hurricane Katrina, the previous poster child for bungled federal disaster response, run by a FEMA which had been stacked by incompetent political cronies and micromanaged by Dick Cheney.
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