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Football Cards of a Failed League: Topps 2019 Alliance of American Football
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Apr 16, 2019 22:02
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Play posted:My shirt got here but its made for a dude with like 100 lbs on me. What's his name?
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Apr 16, 2019 22:04
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Colostomy Bag posted:lol, what size is it? Extra large. I'm 6'3" but I didn't realize it would be in fat person sizes General Dog posted:What's his name? Cletus, probably. Or whatever your name is
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Apr 16, 2019 23:32
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Play posted:Extra large. I'm 6'3" but I didn't realize it would be in fat person sizes This is america bro
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Apr 16, 2019 23:36
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sharknado slashfic posted:This is america bro I know. And Dick's Sporting Goods to boot. My girlfriend already made fun of me for being a dumbass though,, no need for more
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Apr 16, 2019 23:37
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Oh my god, YES. I will fill a binder with a complete set and will sell it 30 years from now to fund my retirement
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Apr 17, 2019 01:31
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https://twitter.com/frntofficesport/status/1118584049491152897
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Apr 17, 2019 19:57
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Apparently the AAF tried to merge with the XFL back in November, and only had enough money when they started for one week of play one week.
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Apr 17, 2019 23:22
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Low Desert Punk posted:Apparently the AAF tried to merge with the XFL back in November, and only had enough money when they started for one week of play lmao my god this whole thing was a catastrophe. here's an article that has some more info: https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2019/04/08/Leagues-and-Governing-Bodies/AAF.aspx quote:Before the AAF’s season began, Alex Fairly, a highly-sought-after insurance consultant in sports who declined to work with the league, said he “got an exact amount of capital that they had, and it was an outstandingly low number. It wasn’t five percent of what they needed, it wasn’t even close.” Fairly declined to cite the specific figure. quote:Asked why he declined to work with the AAF, Fairly said, “Number one, we did not think they had enough time to get ready. Vince announced in February 2018 he was going to play in 2020, and we had been involved in those conversations. … The AAF guys came in after that time, so less time than Vince, and they were kind of beating the XFL to the punch if you will.
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Apr 18, 2019 00:34
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Ebersol and Polian should go to jail, but at least they'll be in courthouses for the rest of their lives
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Apr 18, 2019 02:27
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What's crazy is the people in charge put no time into planning (and had no money to do it with) but the workers and techs in the trenches who helped put out the product, and the players themselves, actually added up to some pretty decent football If you can get all those entertaining weeks out of literally having no money or cohesive managerial direction, imagine what you could get with a spring league that had some forethought and investment
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Apr 18, 2019 05:41
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sweet thursday posted:What's crazy is the people in charge put no time into planning (and had no money to do it with) but the workers and techs in the trenches who helped put out the product, and the players themselves, actually added up to some pretty decent football The XFL was announced before the AAF and isn't starting play until later, so maybe? But then again, the main reason the nuXFL seems to exist is because Vince McMahon thinks there's a market for football where the players aren't allowed to kneel during the national anthem.
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Apr 18, 2019 08:12
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Pakled posted:But then again, the main reason the nuXFL seems to exist is because Vince McMahon thinks there's a market for football where the players aren't allowed to kneel during the national anthem. There is, it's called college football.
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Apr 18, 2019 16:02
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General Dog posted:There is, it's called college football. also the NFL
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Apr 18, 2019 16:59
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GD_American posted:Ebersol and Polian should go to jail, but at least they'll be in courthouses for the rest of their lives Seriously. Ebersol went on every sports show talking about how they had enough money for years. The desperation to lure more investors to their money pit using national tv, what a scumbag.
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Apr 18, 2019 18:41
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Apr 20, 2019 08:54
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Wait, didn't they have a few pre-season games too? Did no one get paid for those? Why did they even have a pre-season when they only had enough money for one week?
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Apr 21, 2019 18:01
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syzpid posted:Wait, didn't they have a few pre-season games too? Did no one get paid for those? Why did they even have a pre-season when they only had enough money for one week? I think there was just one week of closed-gate scrimmages
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Apr 21, 2019 18:47
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I don't know if the NFL needs as much a "minor league" as a competitor. (ala USFL, XFL) to move things forward and implement more changes that the game needs right now. Minor leagues have indeed been tried. The WLAF/NFL Europe had some moderate success but really struggled all things considered. I am intrigued about perhaps not "forcing" five star football players into universities and allowing them the option of perhaps going to some sort of "junior league" though. I find the process of recruiting in the year 2019 sickening. "signing day" is a loving joke. It feels like Joe Johnson from St. Xaviers Prep Academy in Texas would probably much prefer to get paid like his baseball, hockey (and formally basketball) counterparts than really gently caress around at the University of Georgia. I think it would also eliminate these dumb rear end booster scandals that are prevalent as well. Suddenly BIG CRAZY BILL'S car dealership cash isn't as sweet when you could go play for "Team Oklahoma" and get paid a decent wage before going to get drafted by the Dolphins. problem is it feels like a bit of a high wire act to pull off. But I really feel it's needed at this point. I say this by the way? As someone who loves College Athletics and enjoys attending games.
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Apr 22, 2019 01:34
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honestly we just need a proper league pyramid system with team promotion/relegation and enough levels to accommodate all skill levels and pay grades, so NFL-quality players can play against players of similar quality and get paid big bucks, and decent players can play against other decent players and get paid decent bucks, and at the lower levels you get leagues that are a part-time job paying part-time job money for people who are talented enough to play decent football but not talented enough to make a career out of it. and since that will literally never happen, why don't we just go completely ridiculous with it, we should integrate school sports programs into the pyramid. every high school football team that wins a state championship gets promoted up to the NAIA, the 50 worst NAIA teams become high school teams. every NCAA national champion gets promoted up to the NFL and the Browns get relegated to being that college's new football team. Mister Bates fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Apr 22, 2019 |
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Apr 22, 2019 05:31
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Relegation will never take hold at any level of any American sport. Not high school, not minor league, not major league. If it isn't baked into the sports ownership model from the creation of the sport, it's not going to work. I know the inherent Europhilia in every soccer nut makes them pine for it (or in the case of that annoying dipshit on Deadspin that hates the MLS, argue nothing works without it), and I understand. It's a cool model. It adds some real financial consequence to on-field success/failure, and it gets even more attractive to fans as you see franchises sit on profit sharing with low payrolls and act as free riders. But nobody, not the local asphalt magnate who ponied up 1.5 mil for a AA team, nor the Big 4 team owner with 9 figures invested, would dare risk their investment like that. It's too close to gambling. And you'd get some ridiculous demographic/team mismatches in short order (think Green Bay having an NFL team, only 100x worse). Can you picture AFC Mobile, a team with a record attendance of 851, somehow winning their way over several seasons into MLS broadcasts on ESPN? What about poo poo-sucking franchises like the Jets, falling to the level of hosting Fresno's football team in week 4 of the JMLAFL before taking a three game barnstorming swing through Montana, Nebraska and Utah? It's as achievable as getting money out of politics. It's just annoying when it comes up at this point, even as a gag recommendation.
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Apr 22, 2019 06:09
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i decided to become a fan of the first aaf team to lose in the first aaf playoffs. but it turned out that of all the football i enjoyed from countless exactly three different teams, the whole league was the cincinnati bengals all along. fare well again marvin.
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Apr 22, 2019 06:21
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GD_American posted:It's as achievable as getting money out of politics. It's just annoying when it comes up at this point, even as a gag recommendation. I think basketball is about the only sort of thing I could see this remotely being achieved. There's enough random arenas that you could do it with. (Tulsa, Kansas City, Seattle, Cincinnati, Vancouver, etc). But even then? The talent would feel somewhat watered down at that point. I think "Junior Leagues" for 16-21 years or so would be the better direction. Allowing them to get paid in the short term and remove that concern out of the equation. Perhaps the NCAA would "play nice" with eligibility concerns for those that don't look like they're close to making it to the pros, allow them immediate eligibility, etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHJZCZIJcC0 Because frankly? Why are we doing this sort of stuff? Is there anybody that benefits from this whole thing outside of universities being able to get donations, and ESPN shilling the hell out for this.
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Apr 22, 2019 07:14
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GD_American posted:What about poo poo-sucking franchises like the Jets, falling to the level of hosting Fresno's football team in week 4 of the JMLAFL before taking a three game barnstorming swing through Montana, Nebraska and Utah? of course it's a pipe dream but this makes me want it so bad
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Apr 22, 2019 09:01
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GD_American posted:rder (think Green Bay having an NFL team, only 100x worse). Can you picture AFC Mobile, a team with a record attendance of 851, somehow winning their way over several seasons into MLS broadcasts on ESPN? What about poo poo-sucking franchises like the Jets, falling to the level of hosting Fresno's football team in week 4 of the JMLAFL before taking a three game barnstorming swing through Montana, Nebraska and Utah? All of these scenarios own though? I don't even watch soccer and I know these scenarios own
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Apr 22, 2019 09:22
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Spaced God posted:All of these scenarios own though? I don't even watch soccer and I know these scenarios own it sounds great until jerry jones gets the rules changed to abolish the draft and have euro soccer rules but worse for player movement.
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Apr 23, 2019 00:42
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Legends hat and shirt arrived and boys they look good Jersey in the mail from china
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Apr 23, 2019 02:11
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GD_American posted:What about poo poo-sucking franchises like the Jets, falling to the level of hosting Fresno's football team in week 4 of the JMLAFL before taking a three game barnstorming swing through Montana, Nebraska and Utah? This sentence confuses me, because you make it sound like that wouldn't be hilarious and awesome.
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Apr 23, 2019 20:20
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It would be hilarious and awesome for everyone except the person who owns the Jets, which is the point I was making. That's the only person that matters.
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Apr 23, 2019 23:42
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https://twitter.com/KennethMFarrow/status/1120835730782195712
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Apr 24, 2019 03:43
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hahahahaha holy poo poo. Best 30 for 30 ever
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Apr 24, 2019 05:52
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Abolishing the draft would own though.
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Apr 28, 2019 13:27
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:Abolishing the draft would own though. Nah the draft is fun as hell. Plus it's how we keep Yankees-style dynasties from happening (or try to do so). It's definitely not fair to the player though. I've always found it extremely ironic that a priority undrafted free agent is actually in a much better situation than a guy drafted in the last round. They get to choose which team they want to sign with AND they negotiate payment which often exceeds that of the draft picks.
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Apr 30, 2019 20:26
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https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1123362304224051200
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May 1, 2019 00:34
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One weird trick Dave Ramsey doesn't want you to know
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May 1, 2019 15:15
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Long read from SI on AAF. https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/04/30/alliance-american-football-aaf-collapse-charlie-ebersol-tom-dundon The company was run like a Silicon Valley startup that had access to unlimited VC funds even though it very much did not and promised tech it couldn't deliver.
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May 1, 2019 18:55
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From that SI aritical, this is the first detailed explanation I've seen of what this magical app Dundon was apparently so excited about actually entailedquote:About that tech. Last July, half a year before a snap of football was played, a small number of early-hire employees hopped on a video conference call to preview an artist’s rendering of the technology their outfit hoped to develop. First they were shown a smartphone, which in this demo displayed a Steelers game shot from a low SkyCam angle, playing out on a large video tile in the center. Flanking that were four smaller tiles, each showing the same action, zoomed in on an individual player. Touching a player’s tile brought up a display at the bottom of the screen where you could view his energy bar, showing his level of fatigue, or engage in a variety of gambling-type activities. Probabilities for the upcoming play popped up, and the user could wager “points”—an effort, at least initially, to distance the project from actual gambling—on, say, whether the Steelers would run or pass, or in which direction. Edit: actually the article claims Dundon didn't seem that interested in it, in which case I guess he was actually dumber than we thought? General Dog fucked around with this message at 19:10 on May 1, 2019 |
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May 1, 2019 19:07
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quote:But withdrawals from Fowler’s various foreign and domestic banks were suddenly,and without a full explanation to the Alliance’s board, held up around Christmas. Reggie Fowler loving sucks lmao
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May 1, 2019 22:34
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Long read from SI on AAF. I love when some enigmatic jackass starts a new company with no vision, realistic concept or money, but lies his way to VC funding and then it's all the workers that get hosed at the end when the cash taps turn off
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May 1, 2019 23:27
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apparently the AAF was paying the networks to air the games, and it looked like none of the networks were planing to pay for the games, which is why Dundon shut it down. I sort of can't believe that? With as well as the AAF games were doing ratings wise, and how desperate networks seem to be for live sports, they weren't willing to pay anything for the AAF?
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May 2, 2019 04:43
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