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prequels are inherently risky because it's an act of profound artistic second-guessing. you already started your story at what you thought was the most interesting point and relegated the rest to sketched-out backstory, probably correctly. namaste
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Damo posted:this really says it all I am less mad at this star war than many but yeah the casino planet was plot death
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May 30, 2019 03:36
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Just on the face of it just completely deflates the tension of the already shaky chase plot if they can randomly send off a secret Away Mission from their flotilla.
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May 30, 2019 04:54
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Blurry Gray Thing posted:Why would she be imagining the double-sword? When Luke faced his dark side, it didn't come at him while juggling three lightsabers and two bowling pins. Rey is a staff fighter so if she's having a vision maybe she imagines an "ideal" weapon for her fighting style rather than the heirloom she's stuck with? 
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Sep 11, 2019 04:26
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Honestly it all reads to me liket a bunch of plot points with heel turns and face turns and "you thought I was defeated" and superweapons that are just pretty normal space wizard movie trappings that will be fine or bad depending on how they are shot but "Once Kylo arrives, our gang of heroes decide to sneak aboard and attempt to recover the Falcon prior to leaving. The rescue plan goes awry and the whole group gets captured by the First Order." is incredibly dumb unless the leaker missed some kind of plot point that makes it a tactical/existential necessity. "Okay the galaxy is at stake with a super-fleet and the evil emperor is back, but we gotta make sure we get this half century old Chrystler Lebaron back from one of the baddies, for nostalgia reasons"
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Sep 11, 2019 21:52
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lofi posted:Tbh, the more it sucks the more enjoyment I get from it long-term, so I'm golden. I'm not going to front like I won't watch the film itself but I think I'm sincerely more excited for the Auralnauts to do their sequel trilogy.
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Sep 11, 2019 22:14
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I knew what this was before I clicked it but still clicked it becaust it was the most delightful scene of the film and I hadn't seen it in a while.
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Big Beef City posted:Hey I just want to toss this out there again. I can't tell if you're melting down for real or ironically or whatever but whenever I see his handle and avatar I just think of an Ape in a Brooks Brothers suit doing litigation and have a sensible chuckle.
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Sep 13, 2019 01:41
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I thought Solo was a little lifeless and it seemed like the shooting script was just hitting facts from a wookieepedia article. "Okay we have to show how he met chewie, how he got his name, how he got his ship..." The high point was Childish Landino and his robosexual life partner. Particularly groanworthy was his face turn loving up where we meet him characterwise in ANH, a bored imperial recruiter giving him a name, and shoehorning in Darth Maul, forcing me to think about the logistics of the Sith Colostomy Bag he would have to wear.
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Sep 13, 2019 18:19
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Power_of_the_glory posted:Shouldn’t it be the case that the fatter you are the more powerful your force potential? i mean there's plenty of fanon that vader lost a lot of force potential with all his limbs and stuff so yeah the reverse would hold true
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Sep 14, 2019 18:17
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:You don't gain more cells by being fat but you gain more volume for the midichlorians to swim around in
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Sep 14, 2019 18:58
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The degree to which Williams' score elevates a Star War is difficult to overstate. Think about the ambient minimalist synth that was the default sound track to a 70's sci-fi movie and how chintzy plastic armored laser men fighting each other would be with that kind of score. I think you 100% don't have Star Wars, the phenomenon blockbuster without it, even with everything else identical.
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Oct 23, 2019 23:57
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skasion posted:They allude to their past adventures a lot which is something all the SW movies do to evoke a grand scale. Anakin and Obi-wan always banter about rescuing one another from nests of gundarks or how many times they’ve saved each other’s lives, or else Obi-wan scolds Anakin about how he keeps losing his sword. It’s the same as Vader in the original movie shouting about how there’ll be no one to stop us this time. Part of the structural problem with prequels trying to fill out stuff like "the kessel run" or "the clone wars" is that they are great, evocative cast off lines that make it seem like a big teeming universe full of stuff, but they lose something being pinned down like a butterfly to a board and labelled by taking whatever cool image was in your head and diminishing it by saying "no it was this specific thing, actually."
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Oct 24, 2019 22:51
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Randarkman posted:I know that's not what it ended up being, but I always thought the best interpretation of Han's Kessel Run and parsecs line is just that he's a con-man who won a lovely ship and is trying to scam some country bumpkin. Obi-Wan sees through this and decides to essentially go for it, because Han is desperate and will accept payment with money Luke and Obi-wan don't have. That's literally how it appears in the screenplay. One of the few explicit stage directions in that exchange in the script is right after the Kessel line: "Ben reacts to Solo's stupid attempt to impress them with obvious misinformation." Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Oct 24, 2019 |
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Oct 24, 2019 23:02
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the parks and rec filibuster is turning real and i hate it
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Oct 25, 2019 15:46
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Barudak posted:Disney steadfastly refuses to work with McDonalds because a) mcdonalds is unhealthy and that drags doen disneys image and b) the decision was made at a time when the head of Disney's US marketing hated the head of McDonalds US person due to a rumor she had had apparently hosed the Disney marketing heads husband They got back together last year when McDonald's made happy meals nominally healthier by no longer advertising cheeseburgers or chocolate milk as menu options with them. Live action Mulan Szechuan Sauce is a possibility now.
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Oct 25, 2019 16:09
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Chomp8645 posted:Has anyone said that Disney is the evil empire yet??? lmao it's like poety, it rhymes!!! 
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Oct 25, 2019 18:04
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Tom Gorman posted:i don't give The Star Wars credit often but Han immediately trying to merc Vader like 0.5 seconds after the doors open in cloud city is the smartest thing I've ever seen anyone do in a fantasy/adventure movie Yeah the dude is the President of Space who is also the Boogieman and a powerful wizard, and Han just draws down and mag dumps him. You gotta appreciate the reflexes and the moxie.
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Oct 25, 2019 20:18
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Rogue one has an amazing third act, but if you only do the last third of your homework and leave the rest blank you're still topping out at 33% if you do it perfectly.
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The other place you gotta give it up for Rogue One is the production design doing a bang up job of fitting the aesthetic of the '77 orig perfectly. In particular whoever was given the task "whip up a McQuarrie-esque Blackhawk style transport gunship that could have plausibly been just offscreen in Rebel hangars in the OT" knocked it out of the PARK with the U-Wing.
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RotJ is fine but you can't think about it too much of it falls apart, because in the previous two installments the heroes are brought together by circumstances. The pilot desperate enough to take the mission, the princess they rescued, then the same group thrown together in a hasty evacuation; it works. Then in RotJ they are going on an offensive mission at a time and place of their choosing, picking an away mission team, and it just happens to be the same Princess, smuggler turned general, Jedi/pilot, and most incredibly astromech and protocol droids. R2 I kind of get, he's a general utility droid, but 3P0? "Okay for this dangerous clandestine mission, I got my squad of commandos, my Jedi bro, my girlfriend, and for some reason a mincing, gilded decorum robot." Motherfucker you're not at least going to hit him with a couple rattlecans of OD green before taking him on a commando mission in the forest? poo poo you could have sold another action figure that way. Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Oct 28, 2019 |
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:There wasn't an immediate backlash to Return of the Jedi. In fact, it had a prerty gangbusters reception and the fact it managed to outgross Empire which already had a remarkable hold for a sequel (generally sequels were expected to do about half the business of their predecessors at the time) was pretty jaw-dropping. Throughout the 80s and 90s the consensus would form that ROTJ was the weakest of the bunch, but initially the three movies were quite equal in regard, with everyone having their favorites. Honestly it was probably Empire that had the most contentious reputation during the trilogy's heyday - people hadn't quite made up their minds whether its lack of resolution was a strength or a weakness. I'm not sure how much credence I give it but I heard a Take that Clerks did a lot of legwork to cement ESB Uber Alles attitudes.
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Welp D&B got shitcanned off Star Wars. LOL that they rushed to poo poo a garbage GoT ending out of their doo doo asses so they could get to working on it and that nosedive in quality is probably why they "are too busy" to do a star war now. I think more directors have been publicly fired from star warses than actually made a star war at this point.
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Mozi posted:no it's just because Disney was able to grab the director they were hoping for all along please do not speak this into reality
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I don't want to jump on the hate train for the first prominent female Asian American character in a Star War too hard, but she needed an arc. She starts out as a starry-eyed optimist and ends up as one. You can introduce a supporting character in the second one and have them memorable and cool, they just need more texture. Lando is the best analog, introduced as a supporting character in the sequel, and they did a much better job. He works because what screen time they have giving him complex and conflicting motivations. He's caught in an impossible situation doing what's right for his people at the cost of his old friend, the coercion of the Empire, and trying to mitigate the harm on all sides. In the modest amount of screen time he gets you really get a sense of a real person inhabiting the universe. Rose is a star struck do-gooder who gets slightly disillusioned but stays the course and doesn't change or face a challenge to her underlying character. The biggest loss she experiences occurs before we even meet her! I'm not sure how I'd change it but she needed like 1 or 2 more angles/dimensions to be compelling.
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Oct 30, 2019 16:42
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Not even like "kill her off she suxx lol" but maybe, IDK her sister dies a bit AFTER we meet her and she has an actual crisis of faith her unshakable pluck she has to overcome. She has a kidnapped brother conscripted into the new order she has to face on Snoke's ship and realizse that she can't save them in spite of her universal love and has to deal with that. I'm not a screenwriter but I know characters need more tension and dimensionality to be compelling.
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Oct 30, 2019 16:51
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piratepilates posted:For some bizarre reason they can't find much to do with Finn One huge dropped thread is that everyone he merrily blasts is a potential Finn. Tens or hundreds of thousands of fellow slaves he should have some interest in saving. Finn running an underground railroad deprogramming former stormtroopers would be a legitimately cool angle they seem to have zero interest in exploring.
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Oct 30, 2019 18:33
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Yaldabaoth posted:A reminder that Game of Thrones thinks it's better to have a male ruler even if he's a crippled gimp because female rulers will go nuts for no reason and try to kill everyone. In defter hands having a queen ruling Pyke and a Queen in the North would feel like a counterbalance to that, but everything was so rushed and hamfisted that it carries no weight. It's like the long running beloved D&D campaign you had in college didn't have enough time to finish playing out and the DM sent a 3 paragraph email to everyone explaining the rest of the plot he had planned.
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Colonel Cancer posted:Consider Phlebas movie imo Is Amazon still adapting The Culture novels? As such things go it seems like one of the more difficult series to commit to the screen. Hell Excession felt like it was 50% just spaceships shitposting at eachother.
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Oct 30, 2019 20:21
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RaySmuckles posted:i know this is nit-picky, but one of the most jarring scenes for me in the last jedi was finn and rose's execution. the blade is falling on their necks, phasma right next to them with a couple dozen storm troopers and then the explosion happens. next thing you know there's hardly anyone around them and phasma is on the other side of the hanger doing just fine and coming at them with more storm troopers. it's just such a unbelievable changing of the space and conditions. like two distantly related versions of the same concept but from different iterations. must have been a reshoot thing Indeed there is a deleted scene where it plays out differently, they are on a raised platform with a handful of Stormtroopers and Finn outs Phasma's self-preserving cowardace in the previous film, staying the troopers from shooting him and ready to turn on her.
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It's a testament to the actors that I still care about most of the main characters, and IMO that's what's keeping the sequel trilogy's head above water. Since we mostly like and root for Rey, Finn, and Poe it's possible to still stick the third act landing.revwinnebago posted:NARRATOR: It wasn't. Rutibex posted:super laser is stored in the balls imagine three death stars on the edge of a cliff Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Nov 1, 2019 |
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Starkiller was a shotgun that blew up multiple planets in the same system. The next escalation would I guess to do the Sun Crusher and blow up stars.
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I mean you can fill in the blanks that Hosnia was a successful crippling decapitation strike and they moved in from the unknown region bases to consolidate power quickly, but they really need stuff like the briefing room scene in ANH to give just a little building to the world around the characters because this is not a blank we should have to fill in IMO. Not to the galactic CSPAN level of watching parliamentary procedure in the prequels, just a quick walk and talk scene where a First Order senior officer is walking with Hux or Kylo and gets a quick line to the effect of "with the Republic fleet and leadership defeated, we were able to move into key systems quickly, and none of the local garrisons will dare to stand up to us with such a show of force." Then quickly get it back to the character stuff by having that lead into another psychic "no you hang up no you hang up" Reylo late night phone call, but throw a quick bone to the worldbuilding. Alas.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:Has the game of thrones D&B Netflix project been revealed? Or is it just a big Netflix contract for... TBD? TBD. I'm awesome at ruining once-good things, I wish I could spin that into a quarter billy.
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The Mandalorian is pretty dece. A tightly paced action packed 43 minute spaghetti western flavored star war is probably one of the best things Disney has done with the property. how much would it suck to be a yoda and spend half a century in infancy tho? Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Nov 12, 2019 |
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Nov 12, 2019 18:17
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How has no one said "Supreme Leader Toke" yet?
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Nov 12, 2019 21:00
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here lies yoda he never scored
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Nov 12, 2019 21:50
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 but the issue in Empire was that the facilities on Bespin were crude industrial ones not purpose built for freezing people, not that the process itself was in question.It could be that carbon freezing folks was always one of the industry standards and after a legendary hunter scored a famous double bounty that decorated a notorious crime boss' palace with the process it took off even more with any hunter worth his guild liscence springing for a carbonite chamber in their ship. 
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Besides which I'm pretty sure in most places on Eath murking a guy with a gun on you saying basically "I'm going to shoot you in the face riiigght abou-" is self defense.
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