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Stannis stepping out of the shadows aaaaaaany second now.
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2019 02:01 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 08:58 |
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Why were they even bothering to go deep enough into the keep to find the Smallestjon's body? It's not like they have to solve a mystery about what happened
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2019 05:10 |
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fishing with the fam posted:It wouldn't surprise me if the problem the people have with the show is exactly the same reason GRRM is having problems finishing the books. The series made its bones being steeped in political intrigue and subverting genre expectations, but having everything build to grand apocalyptic battle with an unknowable and external existential threat is not conducive to either. There is no bargaining, backstabbing, or politicking with the white walkers, so they are boring rear end villains. Concur. I think that Gurm is also hamstrung by assuming Westeros doesn't end when his books do which means new powers rising now even if they don't tie into the current conflict. The show can just ignore that poo poo
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2019 21:17 |
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Bip Roberts posted:if you didn't google her age your a pedo Actually some of us have been annual updates from our Masie Williams Age of Consent iPhone app. So now who's the pedo?
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2019 14:47 |
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I know it doesn't matter because we're pressed for time but no one in this show is acting rationally. The decision to stand at Winterfell only makes sense if you know the finale is coming. 1. Use your army while you have an army. Showing up to stab the bad guys all together is maybe half of what you do with an army. They could and should be sending outriders to track the White Walkers, to say nothing of using dragon and Magic Bran recon. The Dothraki are basically the Mongols and they should be harrowing the dead’s flanks from the moment they arrived. If nothing else, confirm that your fancy dragonglass poo poo actually works before you're committed. The corrolary to this is that Daenarys majorly hosed up by not taking Cersei off the board. She lost her fleet last season, so if she was able to get her army off Dragonstone she did it by ferrying them off piece by piece. From Dragonstone, she'd know that Euron's fleet left King's Landing, but wouldn't know where they went. Rook's Rest is a day’s row away and incredibly close to the capital. Her Dothraki would have had to ride around King's Landing to get to the Flaming Fields in the first place. If Dany knew that Cersei was going to gently caress her over, which she did, then the peace conference was bullshit from the stat and they should have burned her on the spot and taken the city by surprise. 2. Winterfell is a dumb place for a last stand. Winterfell is defenseable against traditional armies but this isn't a regular army that they can outlast through a seige. They can't fit everyone into the city, can't feed everyone if they could and the bulk of the Targaryan troops would be useless. They recognize this and are planning on a set-piece battle beneath the walls, but that's dumb too. If they lose, the castle is hosed because the enemy has a dragon and icicle javelin anti-air. Further, why are they hiding people in the crypts at all? The grim fatalism makes for good t.v. but they weren't beseiged until just now. You hide women and children in the crypts for a traditional assault because they aren't the actual targets and they might get killed accidentally. A normal conquering army probably isn't going to slaughter them, but this one will turn them into reinforcements. Anyone in the city who can't actively fight is a drain on resources and a potential enemy recruit. 3. Tyrion, Varys, Davos, Sam, Gendry, Jaime, Sansa and Bran (especially Bran) have other poo poo they should be doing. The rainbow coalition in the North should be fanning out to thier respective homes and gathering armies. Dornish forces are unbloodied and sworn to Dany. If Winterfell falls Dany could still bug out and have a power base for if and when the dead chew through King's Landing. Someone who can't fight but can handle politics and organization (Varys or Tyrion) should be headed to Dorne to get them marching north or at least keep them in the fold. Samwell Tarley is the head of a major House in the Reach and technically Cersei’s Warden of the South. He should be headed there with either Varys or Tyrion to organize troops and supplies in Dany's name and to put the Citadel to work on more anti White-Walker tech. Jaime Lannister is the true heir to his house, beloved among his people, and Lannister troops will absolutely follow his orders over Cersei's. The Lannister armies are comparably depleted but if the North can still field troops then Westerlands can too. He and Sansa should be on the way to Casterly Rock yesterday. I get why Sansa would want to stay in Winterfell, but Jaime should drop her and Davos off in the Riverlands on his way South because she would be more useful there than she is Mean Girlsing Kelly C. If Edmure isn't dead, she could help him get his poo poo together. If he is dead, she might have the strongest claim to House Tully. Either way, the Riverlands have had a few years to recover from the war, the Frey’s are dead and ain't nobody speaking for Circee. It's another source of men and materials that you might want if you're dealing with Armegeddon. Same deal with Gendry. The last living Baratheon, even a bastard, is going to have more sway with the Stormlords than Cersi Lannister. Especially if his claim to Storm's End is supported by House Dondarian and House Tarth. loving Bran. If he's right and is what the Night King is actually chasing then the war is over you won. Use him as bait, but don't be dumb about it. Put him on a boat to Skagos and see if the dead follow. Send him on a world tour of sparsely populated islands while you recover your strength.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2019 18:26 |
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teagone posted:Ned Stark once said 500 men could hold Winterfell against 10,000. But Ned also got his head chopped off for being too honorable and not playing the game right, so maybe he's wrong. Still though. His words have to mean something. Yeah but how many undead dragons?
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2019 18:49 |
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WampaLord posted:lol I really think that this is one reason that GRRM couldn't finish the series. Dumping all the characters into the same place for the climax to an epic doesn't fit how he's written the series. It would be like switching from The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Volume 1 to the screenplay of Pompeii. Also, he lazy.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2019 18:56 |
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The North is loving huge. If the Night King's army doesn't have access to the plot teleporter it would take them like a month. The massed Targaryan forces getting bored staring at the unmoving dead for a few days is a funny thought. Chef Boyardeez Nuts fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Apr 22, 2019 |
# ¿ Apr 22, 2019 19:15 |
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Kawalimus posted:I'm basically factoring in the teleporter in predicting that. Also even if it's just the NK, he can raise an army of the dead pretty quick cause as people have said there's TONS of dead dudes out there to raise from the wars. Even if he can only raise the newly dead, the Night King on a dragon could easily knock off a few small Crownlands villages and snowball from there. Huge chunks of King's Landing are outside the walls, and presumably out of big arrow range.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2019 19:25 |
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I'm liking the King's Landing swerve the more that I think about it even if the logistics would probably be dumb. It would be pretty funny if the Night King played Bran and he was too up his own rear end to see it coming.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2019 19:30 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:What if I don’t mind the nudity but think most of it is gratuitous? Same. I'm fine with sex/nudity if it's relevant to the story. If it's just there to titillate the audience it feels superfluous and I feel a little gross. The Arya scene bugged me a bit because it felt like it was just there for for viewers horny for Masie Williams. Good for her though. Usually child actors have to do a lovely shocking B-movie right away to kill off the notion of them only as a kid. Doing it in the show saved her a bad review.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2019 20:19 |
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:why not both!! (Extremely Andrew Jupinly) Oh...oh no.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2019 20:28 |
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Sometimes sex happens in tv shows because it's a thing people do That people gently caress, and why people gently caress are usually plot points. How people gently caress is less often so. If by banging Gendry in a certain way it revealed something about her character then the sex scene serves a narrative purpose that you couldn't get by cutting right after she makes it clear she's down to bone. GOT is actually not terrible at cramming a narrative fig leaf over otherwise gratuitous sex scenes. Littlefinger directing his whores told us something about the character as did Pycell's. Even the "bad pussy" bit established that the Sand Snakes would use sex as a weapon. I think that last week's Bronn scene was a bigger offender than Arya's scene this week in that it did humanize her a bit from the worldly murder-hobo she's been for years. We already knew that Bronn liked getting it wet with prostitutes and that Qyburn is a creepy gently caress who isn't outwardly interested in sex. They're sent out of the room before the actual plot conversation occurs.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2019 20:43 |
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Gunthen posted:I might be way out there on this opinion. But I think a healthy part of becoming an adult is becoming sexually active. What just because you saw somebody when they were a teenager and then they have sex in their 20's that's somehow gross? Seems normal to me. Yeah but I don't want to watch it happen. If I value someone as a person I respect their privacy in using their autonomy.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2019 20:50 |
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Sexuality doesn't devalue someone, lmao Are you being obtuse? The guy I quoted was talking about kids he knew personally maturing.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2019 20:53 |
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:"What just because you saw somebody when they were a teenager and then they have sex in their 20's that's somehow gross? Seems normal to me." Someone you know as a kid having sex is a normal part of their development. You being invested in seeing someone you knew as a kid having sex is an abnormal part of yours.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2019 20:59 |
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Agreed! Read up, I didn't have a problem with the scene. Gunthen posted:Understandable. I don't have any kids, might be a big part of why some people feel uncomfortable about it, I completely understand the reality of parenthood is way outside my scope of understanding or experience. I agree with all that. Jon and Sansa having a private conversation about grain production targets shouldn't be on screen if it doesn't advance the plot or tell us something about the character. Sex scenes are the same thing, only it's less awkward watching a superfluous grain target conversation with my parents in the room. Chef Boyardeez Nuts fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Apr 22, 2019 |
# ¿ Apr 22, 2019 21:07 |
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Crow Jane posted:Again, did we see Pod's driver's license proving he was 18 when he went to the brothel? Did we actually see Pod's rod? I don't remember but I do remember that the whole business served the purpose of subverting other characters expectations of him.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2019 21:22 |
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Lol at whoever reminded me about Gilly's baby in the book. Would have been cool to see Kit Harrington act out an action that wasn't just befuddled handsome good guy does the best he could.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2019 21:32 |
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Gunthen posted:The truly sad thing, is that the ending to the show. Is likely the only ending we will get. Unless GRRM lives to be 120, no way he finishes the books. I dunno, this thread is proof enough that it's easy to criticize other peoples' work. I could absolutely see GRRM using the screenplay as a draft upon which he can edit.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2019 21:35 |
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House Dondarian seems pretty cool. Berrick's been in the poo poo since like episode five even though the guy who gave him his orders and the king he represented are long dead. He’s like one of those holdout Japanese soldiers who refused to surrender for decades. I mean, not great at the letter of his mission of bringing the Mountain to justice, but great at the spirit.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2019 22:40 |
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Davos tracking down King Rickon of the Wild Rumpus is a thread that I'm looking forward to seeing resolved in the book.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2019 22:53 |
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Vintersorg posted:I liked the first Faceless man - he was amazing. Bring him back. Totally agree but you accidentally posted the wrong picture
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2019 00:17 |
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Also did Hot Pie show up in the background at Winterfell in episode 1? I think the commissioner in my fantasy GOT league is full of poo poo.
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2019 00:21 |
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Vintersorg posted:I think you did too. I wonder what Aria would say to the God of Death now? bitch you owe me 13 dollars
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2019 00:54 |
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Beric is a bro and is actually Azor Azai but was just a poor boy from a poor family. teagone posted:
That actor is great in, and I cannot stress enough only in, the first two seasons of Fortitude. The third season does not exist.
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2019 01:55 |
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That DICK! posted:It’s kind of neat that Beric, who was appointed by Ned Stark to Do Good during his 4 seconds on the Iron Throne, is probably gonna die defending Winterfell ”Were you in the poo poo?” ”Yeah, I was in the poo poo." yes he was recast shut up
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2019 02:08 |
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I'm glad of it.
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2019 06:57 |
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GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:That's a good twist though on Bran being the night king himself which I don't think is impossible, but it's pretty unlikely given Bran saw the night king being made and wasn't like "holy poo poo that's me" to the three eyed raven or the children of the forest. If I recognized at 12 what I would look like at 32 it would have been so depressing.
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2019 20:50 |
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Doltos posted:Cleganebowl seems like it will never happen. What is hype may never die Post your theories with no spoilers unless you're relying on the previews I guess.
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2019 00:09 |
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Leon Sumbitches posted:If they could just walk through water, wouldn't they have talked around the wall? Ahem....Magic Wall. That's only half pithee, in the books the wall was magical so perhaps it's anti walker abilities extended out to international waters. I'm guessing that spleunking white walkers isn't cannon and the lake crash landing and Raise the Rhegal was conceived as a cool visual. Chef Boyardeez Nuts fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Apr 24, 2019 |
# ¿ Apr 24, 2019 14:07 |
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If we're critiquing, Bran killed the Umbers by waiting for Jaime instead of doing green sight recon. Bran is not humanity's friend.
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2019 18:15 |
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Crow Jane posted:I know nothing about The Dark Tower, I hope he just plays Bronn in chaps. It's a direct sequel to a Handmaid's tale where Gilead takes it real old school.
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2019 18:18 |
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Opferwurst posted:Nah, the world is huge and Westeros is a backwater shithole in it. The world feeling very, very small in a show only thing. Also, they've been so busy loving and fighting that technology hasn't advanced at all. I'm picturing a future set in the same universe where the others advance only to run into dudes with armored bulldozers.
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2019 20:11 |
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Winter came and went only to gently caress with Stannis.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2019 01:38 |
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Is getting murdered in someone's place a service that the House of Black and White provides? That seems like a poor use of an assassin.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2019 01:43 |
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Cersei is more likeable because she did it without relying on the dragon queen plot armor, and her rule is competent. Who exactly does she competently rule over, exactly? Ain't no one left in King's Landing but the smallfolk, her garrison, and her zombie guards.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2019 20:25 |
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TheRat posted:Nobody but Bran knew what the NK wanted before they were just hours away from battle. Winterfell is a massive fortress, it makes a lot of sense to make a final stand there if you don't have that piece of information. The fact Bran didn't tell anyone earlier makes me think he has seen something/has other plans he's not sharing. You shouldn't be making final stands of you can avoid it and plunking yourself down into a castle that can be encircled means your opponent gets to decide if it's your final stand.
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2019 15:50 |
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PostNouveau posted:Ohhhhhhhh that was Jorah coming back with the Dothraki. And he gives a rattled head shake to Tormund and he goes by. Mine was light enough to recognize Jorah, but dark enough to think that the smudge over his eye was a hole and that he'd already died, been resurrected, and was infiltrating the line before he was noticed. It was a genuine "oh poo poo” moment that was way better than anything the writers intended to happen.
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# ¿ May 3, 2019 06:37 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 08:58 |
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That link led me to a Ben Shapiro video and my expectations were so low I enjoyed it and I'm alt-right now so thanks I guess and lock her up
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# ¿ May 5, 2019 01:16 |