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LordAba
Oct 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Seldom Posts posted:

I think what BMS is trying to get at is that since his pro-concentration camp post, Aba has had a swastika avatar, and has been called a fascist when he shows up. He's never changed the avatar, nor has he denied that he has fascist politics. So, he probably is a fascist.

Someone gave me the avatar, I really liked my old one and wouldn't mind having it back (I hope I still have it saved somewhere). However, I believe some people on here would change it back almost immediately so why bother?
I was banned (along with others who where timed out) during that post, talking it over with the mod at the time, agreed with them that it was off topic and moved on. This is part of the reason I haven't addressed it.

Hey, if Lovely Joe Stalin, BIG MEATY SHITS, Booley and the others want to hate me that's their thing. They want to misrepresent me... they are wrong, but that's their thing. They can mute me, they can nitpick everything I say, great. If I met them in person I would give them the benefit of the doubt and play a game with them if they let me. If they want to gently caress up other threads I'll let the mods handle that.
You know... YOU KNOW these people aren't going to listen. They are obviously saying poo poo in bad faith. So why should I listen to them?

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It's not a good solution, but likening them to concentration camps is jumping the shark. At least call it what it is: jailing I don't agree with. Unless you can post some info that says the living conditions of these people are subhuman or they are being detained for no reason (even if you don't agree with being arrested for illegal entry, doesn't mean it isn't a reason).
Ironically the fact that children are separated from their children isn't even a Trump thing. It's just he is enforcing it with zero tolerance, meaning that parents are being prosecuted for crimes. This unfortunately was legislated to mean separation of child and parent.
I stand by everything I say here, even if it could have been made more clear. I do not think they are close to concentration camps. In addressing the second point, I believe it was Beer that posted a study of some of the horrible conditions in these locations.
The way the law is written the parents are considered criminals and current laws state that you separate children from that sort of situation. This makes sense during actual criminal complaints or human trafficking charges. It is also traumatic and horrible for the kids. This has always been the case even when Obama was in office despite him ruminating on it (in which he apparently had a half hearted attempt at addressing this or was stonewalled).
Between Trumps zero tolerance, judges either enforcing it per the books or not having the time in the day to determine what is the right course on a case-by-case basis, and congress seemly not willing to change the laws or fund additional resources so judges can process these cases quicker... it's bad.
Note words like "not good" and "unfortunate". Maybe if someone pointed out where I said I support sending children to literal concentration camps?

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