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| Yes - We'll fall out no deal in June |
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51 | 6.98% |
| Yes - Some kind of deal will be in place by October |
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26 | 3.56% |
| Yes - Technical Brexit (EU Flag has a gold fringe) |
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29 | 3.97% |
| No - There'll be a general election |
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77 | 10.53% |
| No - There'll be a #PeoplesVote |
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27 | 3.69% |
| No - Queen's dugs will stop it |
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11 | 1.50% |
| Other - Bah Gawd is that Sinn Fein's Music? |
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93 | 12.72% |
| gently caress Knows |
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264 | 36.11% |
| Piss Flaps |
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153 | 20.93% |
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Dead Goon posted:I had to Google. Bit weird you had to google what "mash" meant, but whatever. As to what I'm having for dinner, I have a sudden primal urge for egg and chips - possibly I've been a bit too middle class of late and my soul is trying to rebalance. e: I object to sniping now it's the cool thing to do but I've been waiting for an excuse to show off my new cat for a week, so here he is with bonus "He's behind me, isn't he?" look from my dog. 
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Oh cheer up comrades, we might get obliterated by meteorites first looks to the sky with hope
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May 31, 2019 18:19
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ronya posted:throw dried chili flakes in there Chili flakes and thyme are also good as a coat to roast parsnips or roast tats in.
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May 31, 2019 18:19
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sebzilla posted:Mustard mash He did the mash! He did the ... mustard mash... (?) 
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May 31, 2019 18:19
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jabby posted:It's looking increasingly likely that a new PM will call a GE to get backing for No Deal. Based on what? I can't imagine the likes of BoJo would worry, they'd use No Deal as a way to get backing for a GE if anything.
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May 31, 2019 18:20
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I can't get enough of are Dan
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DesperateDan posted:Oh cheer up comrades, we might get obliterated by meteorites first https://twitter.com/dasharez0ne/status/1047839091826593793 This is probably my most-used political tweet of the last year.
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May 31, 2019 18:21
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DesperateDan posted:Oh cheer up comrades, we might get obliterated by meteorites first Then everything would be mash *holds jar of chili flakes*
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May 31, 2019 18:21
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Bit weird you had to google what "mash" meant, but whatever.   Nice catte 
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May 31, 2019 18:22
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I wonder if I could get money for a startup that broadcasts people's tweets into space with a really big radio dish.
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May 31, 2019 18:22
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OwlFancier posted:I wonder if I could get money for a startup that broadcasts people's tweets into space with a really big radio dish. To keep aliens away?
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May 31, 2019 18:24
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Mostly just to make me rich tbh. Seems like something a bunch of people with too much money would pay me to do. Also I personally subscribe to the ocean floor model of why space is silent.
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May 31, 2019 18:24
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jabby posted:It's looking increasingly likely that a new PM will call a GE to get backing for No Deal. pretty sure the new PM doesn't need a GE to get a NDB. they literally have to do nothing and crash out on October 31st. Regarde Aduck posted:A portion of the thread have become a brexit death cult where they think it's bad but it must be appeased lest it devour the universe. Or something. And yeah they think destroying Labour's chances is worth it. are Labour's chances only destroyed if they try to get both leave and remain voters back on board, rather than just remainers, and what proof do you have of this? seizure later fucked around with this message at 18:29 on May 31, 2019 |
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May 31, 2019 18:27
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OwlFancier posted:Mostly just to make me rich tbh. Seems like something a bunch of people with too much money would pay me to do. I can imagine plenty of tech bros thinking their mighty intellect needs to be tweeted into space.
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May 31, 2019 18:32
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Exactly, really there are only two problems. 1, elon musk would buy me out. 2. I don't have a radio telescope array.
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May 31, 2019 18:33
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feedmegin posted:Personally I'm a big fan of mash based miscegenation.And yes a nice whack of Dijon too Miscegenation? I thought mash was abortion of chips.
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May 31, 2019 18:33
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Surely mashcegenation is when you mix sweet and normal potato?
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May 31, 2019 18:34
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OwlFancier posted:2. I don't have a radio telescope array. I can serve crisps in something else for a while.
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May 31, 2019 18:37
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OwlFancier posted:Exactly, really there are only two problems. 1, elon musk would buy me out. 2. I don't have a radio telescope array.
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May 31, 2019 18:41
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Guavanaut posted:Maybe they're from somewhere where grits are the preferred alternative. Which are also often places with a history of talk about miscegenation. I'm not, but my wife is a black woman from Mississippi. So, yeah, 50 years or so ago we'd have been doing a crime
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May 31, 2019 18:45
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OwlFancier posted:Exactly, really there are only two problems. 1, elon musk would buy me out. 2. I don't have a radio telescope array. Seems only fair you should have Goonhilly.
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May 31, 2019 18:47
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ronya posted:don't hesitate to ask just how hot the chili is, there's tons of niche chilis and it's impossible to keep them all straight. but the big unspecified-variety packs meant for home cooking are probably a good bet for "spicy but not so hot that you can't taste anything else". about lower-end-habanero-hot in Mexican terms Right but chili powder you buy in like sainsbury's isn't just chili, of any heat. https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/251994901 'Mild chilli powder a blend of chillies, cumin, garlic and oregano. MELLOW & EARTHY'
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May 31, 2019 18:50
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feedmegin posted:Right but chili powder you buy in like sainsbury's isn't just chili, of any heat. I'm not eating it if somebody's cumin it.
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May 31, 2019 18:53
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OwlFancier posted:Also I personally subscribe to the ocean floor model of why space is silent. I haven't heard this one, explain!
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May 31, 2019 19:03
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Darth Walrus posted:<snip> jabby posted:It's looking increasingly likely that a new PM will call a GE to get backing for No Deal. Quoting both because the same answer applies here. I think Labour should have that policy, definitely in time for a snap GE. But should they adopt it immediately? How will that play out? What if they wait until after the Tory leadership is decided? mediadave posted:Basically what Darth Walrus said, but: Just because there are more Labour remainers doesn't necessarily imply that they will all abandon the party in favour of austerity-happy Lib Dems though. If you assume that Brexit is going to happen anyway, what happens if Labour's hard Remain stance wins them votes from the Lib Dems in cities where they were going to win anyway, but loses them votes to the Tories in target seats, leaving the Tories with more seats in the end? What makes you think your prediction is more likely?
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May 31, 2019 19:13
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Finally, I was gonna call twisto out about this "cat" nice cat Also the thing about a referendum, not only does Labour need to appear to have acted in good faith over the original referendum (and this doesn't mean everyone slapping Corbyn on the back going "excellent thanks for all your hard work the outcome doesn't matter"), they also need a second referendum to have a point. If you just ask Leave/Remain again it's literally a do-over that will anger a lot of people, and alienate those Remain supporters who think it's undemocratic behaviour There's a very good chance Remain could lose again, since the People's Vote campaign seems to have done absolutely gently caress all in terms of building a case for staying in. Like this is a chance to rerun 2016, learning from the mistakes, and actually selling the EU in a way that resonates with all those people who voted Leave last time. And they should have been running this election campaign from the beginning. Seems more like they just assume everyone has had second thoughts and they'll just naturally win, y'know, like they thought last time, dooo do dooo dooooo Making a second referendum a choice between Remain and An Actual Deal avoids those issues about as much as you possibly could - you can argue it's not asking the same question again, it's giving people a very specific plan of action and saying, do you want us to do this? It's arguably a democratic thing to do since the original question was so open ended like some kind of monkey paw wish. And that's the other thing - Leave meant whatever the hell you wanted it to mean, everyone was spinning fairy tales (and still are now), it's an easy thing to vote for if you believe it will all be great as hell and the dawn of a new golden age. There were no stakes, and the same is true if you just rerun Leave/Remain - people can believe in whatever possibilities they like But if you have an actual, concrete proposal on the table (which includes No Deal) that's a specific future you're voting for. You have to be willing to take that particular path, to say "yeah this is good" - and making it a confirmatory referendum means you can't hide behind "oh the politicians caused this, they made a bad decision!" If the public votes to leave with no deal, the public is responsible for what happens. And a lot of people will think twice when they have that responsibility. Not everyone, but maybe enough
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May 31, 2019 19:13
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So somewhere I used to go regularly on holiday has had one of the local car parks (one of 2-3 in a largish village) taken over from the council by one of the various three-letter parking firms who've put up an ANPR camera and have started ticketing locals for £100 a pop. I might be potentially considering an act of civil disobedience to stop this from happening, is there a better option than a ladder and a can of spray paint on a moonless night?
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May 31, 2019 19:17
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Finland has some ideas, but they might get you in trouble. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epPls1dyqy8
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May 31, 2019 19:20
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Guavanaut posted:Finland has some ideas, but they might get you in trouble. sadly even if I could get hold of high explosives there's a military base just down the road so it might not go over too well
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May 31, 2019 19:21
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That's a great place to get them if you make some friends there. Obvious alternative to requiring a ladder is a paintball gun.
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May 31, 2019 19:22
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Julio Cruz posted:So somewhere I used to go regularly on holiday has had one of the local car parks (one of 2-3 in a largish village) taken over from the council by one of the various If it has a hole in it you can fill it with expanding foam and watch it spectacularly burst.
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May 31, 2019 19:23
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baka kaba posted:Making a second referendum a choice between Remain and An Actual Deal avoids those issues about as much as you possibly could - you can argue it's not asking the same question again, it's giving people a very specific plan of action and saying, do you want us to do this? It's arguably a democratic thing to do since the original question was so open ended like some kind of monkey paw wish. Absolutely. A second referendum can't be allowed to be no deal vs remain, because a) that's the same everything for everyone nonsense that got us into this mess and b) no deal really could win. Labour arguing for a reasonable - or at least on the table - deal vs remain is not only a reasonable position, it's also a good wedge issue to use against those dumb shits in the lib dems and change arguing for no deal vs remain.
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May 31, 2019 19:23
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e: ^^^ just to be clear, that's still explicit Labour policy you're advocating forNZAmoeba posted:I haven't heard this one, explain! Borrovan fucked around with this message at 19:29 on May 31, 2019 |
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May 31, 2019 19:27
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NZAmoeba posted:I haven't heard this one, explain! If you look at the ocean floor and don't see anything alive, is that because there isn't anything living there, or because the things that do live there are hiding?
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May 31, 2019 19:30
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mediadave posted:Absolutely. A second referendum can't be allowed to be no deal vs remain, because a) that's the same everything for everyone nonsense that got us into this mess and b) no deal really could win. Well like I said No Deal is technically a deal (just a blank sheet of paper, or No dEAL iS bEtTer THAn A bAd dEaL scratched into it over and over). And by putting it on the referendum you're saying this, this is brexit. Is this really what you want to do? It's not gonna work out great in some other way, this is it It's completely different to an open ended, whatever-you-wish-for brexit where everyone gets to imagine their preferred outcome. Plus with a final plan on the table, maybe the conversation can get to what that will actually entail instead of having endless Tories on the BBC going "oh the EU will give us whatever we want" and spinning off fantasy scenarios. I mean the media discussion about what no deal means should have been happening a long time ago, but at least it would provide focus goatkcd wins again baka kaba fucked around with this message at 19:35 on May 31, 2019 |
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May 31, 2019 19:31
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lol if you think that media discussion of No Deal will be anything other than economists on one side, Farage and Boris on the other, and the BBC in the middle saying "well both sides make good points"
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May 31, 2019 19:37
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Borrovan posted:e: ^^^ just to be clear, that's still explicit Labour policy you're advocating for Well, all I can say is then I hope this is consistent from here on out and isn't muddied again.
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May 31, 2019 19:38
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Julio Cruz posted:So somewhere I used to go regularly on holiday has had one of the local car parks (one of 2-3 in a largish village) taken over from the council by one of the various How disobedient are you feeling? Purely theoretically of course and based on no more than internet bullshit but paint is easy to spot and easy to clean, but allegedly hairspray over the lens will completely defeat the ANPR while being basically impossible to diagnose and, arguably, not meeting the bar of criminal damage.
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May 31, 2019 19:39
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mediadave posted:Well, all I can say is then I hope this is consistent from here on out and isn't muddied again. the fact that it's muddied at all is entirely down to the media rather than Labour
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May 31, 2019 19:39
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Borrovan posted:e: ^^^ just to be clear, that's still explicit Labour policy you're advocating for Definitely starting to believe that he's deliberately drawing some of them to work with Goatkcd.
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baka kaba posted:
Excellent policy and analysis, assuming only the existence of a Labour-Tory grand coalition dedicated to delivering a soft Brexit. Labour is not in office, and short of an unlikely Leftist military coup that means there is a election to be won before any policy can be enacted. That election will be either before or after Brexit, probably the latter. Either way, the legitimacy or otherwise of an advisory poll a few years back is not in the list of top 1000 relevant factors. Focus your attention on how to win either of those elections. Take a look for yourself at the evidence of the non-general elections and polls. Listen to all the anecdotes in this thread saying ‘why are all my idiot friends and colleagues failing to see the beauty of Labour’s elegantly crafted compromise’. If you do so, I am pretty confident you will come to the conclusion that it is time to leave Brexit behind us. For bonus points, try do to this _before_ the LDs realise ‘if most of our voters are leftists, we should probably stop being centrist shits’.
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