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Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

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Clapping Larry

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

I mean, I figured they were looking for someone who could do things like make a macro, not that they literally were hiring to have someone do that one specific crop and resize thing specifically. They seemed so confused and the interviewer had to like, go get his boss.

Is this for real lol what the hell were they doing, did they not have anyone even remotely experienced in computers that could have told them "hey guys I think with computers you can do this in a more automatic way"?

You don't even need a goddamn macro you can just run something like sips on the command line and boom thousands of images processed in a few keystrokes

My story about leaving an interview: I went, expecting a normal interview. When I arrived it was this ~6 group of people being interviewed and they said it was gonna take 5 hours and the first thing they ask is to write a motherfucking fizz-buzz implementation on a paper, with pencils, so I said "gently caress this" and left

Pochoclo fucked around with this message at 16:16 on May 10, 2019

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Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Jolly Jumbuck posted:

One other thing, here in the US, a lot of jobs are posted online and often by recruiting agencies.

This happens everywhere - I've gotten recruiters pitching a job in my own team more times than I can remember, they don't even look at your loving LinkedIn

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
The amount you make has little to do with personal effort, it's mostly a hilarious multifaceted lottery, from which country and family you were born in, to what your interests are, to what people you met, to what jobs you had before, to what the country's economy was like, etc etc

It's 2019 and people are still pushing the "pull yourself off your bootstraps" argument? I thought that would have been debunked by now. There's no meritocracy, only the terrible roulette of capitalism.

"Hey ma'am", he whispers into the ear of the overworked teacher travelling to 3 different schools a day for minimum wage, paying for her pupils' materials out of pocket, "have you considered learning Javascript?"

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
Well sure living on minimum wage sucks but if we just assume minimum wage earners find a suitcase full of cash every month...

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
Someone's always going to be dropping white phosphorus on innocent civilians so it might as well be me making a profit off it

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
According to this http://www.fundacionsol.cl/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Los-Verdaderos-Salarios-NESI-2017-1.pdf a top 10% monthly net salary in Chile would be ~1400 USD and I'm pretty sure wateroverfire is giving us the gross, not the net, so it's probably really closer to top 30% and maybe paying like half of it "informally" due to it being Latin America

Still doubt someone with his kind of views would pay a top 30% salary to an "asistente de ventas" in a Latin American country really

Pochoclo fucked around with this message at 01:42 on May 18, 2019

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
Under the current system I make completely useless websites for large amounts of money while nurses and teachers have to choose between heating and food.
How about instead of doing complicated calculus to determine each individual employee's contribution, we just give everyone enough to have a comfortable life, guarantee everyone a good place to live in, education and health, and let people work for luxuries and extras?

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
If we manage to get a society where we measure inequality by someone having a huge mansion or a fancy sports car but everyone in the world has good access to food, water, housing, education, etc, then loving sign me up goddamn

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Helsing posted:

Lotta utopian socialist naval gazing going on in here.

Anything short of socialist utopia means that the planet is hosed anyway, so we might as well push for a long shot that means the survival of a better civilization instead of cowardly capitalist status quo incrementalism that will die in ~100 years because of everything collapsing due to climate change, yes?

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Helsing posted:

Not really. "Utopian socailism" was a tendency within 19th century leftist thought that was criticized for its lack of realism and applicability. It's not a generic term for all socialism.

Which is good, because a socialist response to climate change and inequality would require mobilizing huge amounts of labour and resources through coercive means and using them to fight a desperate rearguard action against existential threats on every front. Utopia isn't on the menu for anyone currently alive. At best it's a possibility we keep alive for future generations.

I don't think you understand my post. If we don't go through some massive societal restructuring, of the kind that utopian socialism represents, we're all hosed. These "future generations" you mention, will be part of a very, very different mankind, one reduced to paleolithic population numbers and pre-industrial technology levels.

The human species might survive, but human civilization as it is right now has no loving chance.

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Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
Well yeah we're not just gonna go poof one day and become the Culture, first we might want to make sure the multibillion corporations pay some loving tax and introduce some worker protections

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