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This is a total cop-out but I think you have to know a Dani and Christian couple (or have been in one in the past) for their characterizations to hit home but I think they are both really fleshed out and well-acted. Christian's brand of (spoilers just in case) "aw shucks I'm the reasonable one" gaslighting and emotional abuse is really well done.
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Yeah, he is constantly gaslighting Dani into doing what he wants her to do by pretending to be the victim every time they have a confrontation. The fight about the trip especially, where his position is basically "I told you about it why are you attacking me"
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I thought it was that and just trying to leave, which would mean they'd probably tell what they saw
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I thought it was just Pelle and the guys loving with Mark.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I had a thought about the ending. We have talked a lot about the film condemning Christian's selfishness, but I feel like the ending might suggest the same about Dani I need to see this again, but my memory of the ending is that Dani is sort of crawling around and wretching and crying as the building burns, and then it cuts to the cultists screaming and thrashing around, and then back to Dani for the last shot where she's smiling, which felt like a continuation of the breathing scene with the other May queens. To me this solidified her place with the cult-- she sacrificed Christian the same as the other members sacrificed loved ones, so she's rightfully a part of their shared grief.
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veni veni veni posted:I feel like this new wave of sort of arthouse horror has created an expectation of solidarity, but in reality everyone that gravitates towards these films seems to disagree all of the time on which ones are actually good. Which is fine I think. These movies were made to be polarizing. I think these movies tend to expect individual members of the audience to bring so much to it that they're bound to be divisive. They play heavily on your experiences, so where any random scene might be a gutpunch for me, it might fall totally flat for someone else which isn't really their fault.
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I don't think the movie portrays Christian as cheating, he's clearly out of his gourd and didn't consent to any of it. It's all the stuff he does the rest of the time that the movie condemns him for. I actually think it muddles the ending a bit-- seeing him "cheating" (heavy heavy quotation marks on this) is the turning point for Dani, but it definitely shouldn't have been.
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Jul 10, 2019 19:41
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graventy posted:Actually this was the only point I disagreed with you on. You're basically arguing that he was asking for it. She also kicks him in the rear end while they are dancing and he's like "uhhh can I go dance too" and scurries off after them.
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The apple exclusivity poo poo is stupid, the director's cut is listed as an extra so you can't even download it, it has to be streamed.
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