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VH4Ever posted:Thought: I bet if Liz does any less than completely dominate tonight, it'll be reported as a "major failure" and all the recent positive press may turn on her. Lots of pressure on her tonight. Would be funny to see her flail and get dunked on by Beto or the Klobb or something. Should be interesting either way.
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I'm 100% sure we're going to see a not Warren get one meh zinger in and the media will try to elevate them as the TRUE second place runner.
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Jun 26, 2019 15:20
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They're saying it was randomly selected but Warren and Sanders happen to be opposite of each other. And they're literally letting Andrew wang debate ???
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Jun 26, 2019 15:21
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Do people seriously still believe the media is hostile to Warren at this point?
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Jun 26, 2019 15:30
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The reality is that the only person that isn't running for a book deal, a cabinet position, or to pad out their lobbying cred tonight is Warren. We're probably not going to get anything too interesting from the candidates themselves. I think the real potential breakout stars tonight will be the audience. We're going to have an auditorium filled with well to dos given tickets by the Florida Democratic party and obviously salty lesser nobles that paid nearly two grand for a ticket and only got into the under card debate. This is all being moderated by dumbass brainwormed MSNBC pundits. I'm not hopeful per say but there are the ingredients there for something magical to happen.
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Jun 26, 2019 15:33
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Professor Skittles posted:They're saying it was randomly selected but Warren and Sanders happen to be opposite of each other. And they're literally letting Andrew wang debate ??? It was randomly selected. Doing it randomly is giving undue deference to a host of nobodies. Doing it randomly meant there was, what, a 20% chance that the top 3 would be on the same stage? (1*(4/9)*(3/8) = 16.6)
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Jun 26, 2019 15:46
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Iron Twinkie posted:
They'll do that thing where Warren talks about cancelling student debt and the rich gently caress donor audience booing, and then going "looks like the Dem base doesn't want it".
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Jun 26, 2019 15:47
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The Bernie Sanders Reddit is full of posts saying "I already paid off MY student loans, it's not fair" Goddamit
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Jun 26, 2019 16:04
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oxsnard posted:The Bernie Sanders Reddit is full of posts saying "I already paid off MY student loans, it's not fair" There’s an equally large enoughsanders board with a lot of chuds and earnest centrists. Bernie’s board gets raided a lot.
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Jun 26, 2019 16:10
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Bernstrike posted:I’ll vote for whomst forces Netflix to fix the evangelion dub I'll vote for whoever forces NBC to leave The Office on Netflix instead of moving it to their own dumb streaming service
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Jun 26, 2019 16:23
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Tree stump biden has a little too much baggage to get on airforce 1.
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Jun 26, 2019 16:26
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oxsnard posted:The Bernie Sanders Reddit is full of posts saying "I already paid off MY student loans, it's not fair" People are spiteful assholes who want everyone to have to at least go through the same misery that they did, and many people take it a step further and want others to have it worse than they did. Also capitalism conditions people to think that they are always competing against each other: if some people benefit from something it must follow that the rest of society is hurt by it. It never occurs to these people that society as a whole improves when a disadvantaged group (racial minorities, women, LGBTQ, poor people, people with student debt, etc.) is helped in a significant way. According to regressives the civil rights movement didn't just help black people, it hurt white people. Recognizing same-sex marriages doesn't just help gay people, it hurts straight people and "traditional families." Increasing the social safety net doesn't just help poor people, it hurts rich people despite them still being able to remain filthy rich with a higher marginal tax rate.
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Jun 26, 2019 16:26
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I never understand why some people who go through difficulty don’t have a mentality of “I faced hardship but I hope you never experience what I did and I hope the world improves to give you peace.” Versus “I had it tough so you should too.”
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Jun 26, 2019 16:29
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Thursday will be a big deal. Definitely not today. We have hardly heard a single thing from Biden. He hasn't worked in 2 years, hes a human gaffe machine, and hes most def lost a step based on the small instances I've seen him. Hes gonna gently caress it up at least once. I guarantee you. The question is how much will his polls drop
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Professor Skittles posted:Thursday will be a big deal. Definitely not today. We have hardly heard a single thing from Biden. He hasn't worked in 2 years, hes a human gaffe machine, and hes most def lost a step based on the small instances I've seen him. I think there is a non-zero chance he skates through, at least this time. With nine other people on the stage, there won't be too much time for any one candidate and I could see a lot of the cross-talk and attacks going in Sanders' direction.
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Professor Skittles posted:Thursday will be a big deal. Definitely not today. We have hardly heard a single thing from Biden. He hasn't worked in 2 years, hes a human gaffe machine, and hes most def lost a step based on the small instances I've seen him. Not sure when voters are going to start paying attention to his "gaffes" (his terrible record on almost everything that matters). I don't doubt that he'll make mistakes... but somewhat despair at the idea that its magically going to start mattering at the debates.
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Mind_Taker posted:People are spiteful assholes who want everyone to have to at least go through the same misery that they did, and many people take it a step further and want others to have it worse than they did. Yeah it loving pisses me off. I am a top 15% earner in the US, am white, straight and have an advanced degree. I went through a lovely libertarian phase in college. But now I scream from the rooftops "yes, raise taxes on ME too, dammit" but all the lovely liberals in my demographic I deal with are still very much FYGM. It's a deeply held American value and it's insidious and hard to change
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Jun 26, 2019 16:46
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Pembroke Fuse posted:Not sure when voters are going to start paying attention to his "gaffes" (his terrible record on almost everything that matters). I don't doubt that he'll make mistakes... but somewhat despair at the idea that its magically going to start mattering at the debates. I am thinking solely in terms of what impact the debates will have. Some people sink for the dumbest reasons. Like remember when everyone wrote off Kucinich because the moderator brought up that he was quoted as having seen a UFO ?? - Which literally is just something in the air that you're not sure what it is exactly. I'm more hoping Biden polls a Rick Perry gaffe. Just something like that will get lots of people looking elsewhere
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Jun 26, 2019 16:47
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Jun 26, 2019 16:47
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Pembroke Fuse posted:Not sure when voters are going to start paying attention to his "gaffes" (his terrible record on almost everything that matters). It's an open question, but it did hurt him before in both the 2008 and 2016 primaries. Also, keep in mind that at the moment, the vast majority of people are paying almost zero attention. Seriously, just by keeping up with the primary thread you would be investing more time and attention in the primaries than a good 95% of the population.
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Jun 26, 2019 16:48
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Professor Skittles posted:They're saying it was randomly selected but Warren and Sanders happen to be opposite of each other. And they're literally letting Andrew wang debate ??? Andrew Yang is the best and will crush your joke on his last name is also racist
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Jun 26, 2019 16:48
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wait do we have legit Yang Stans posting because lol
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Jun 26, 2019 16:50
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Koalas March posted:wait do we have legit Yang Stans posting because lol there's one or two lurking i managed to get one to agree with copypasted tobleronetriangular RON PAUL screeds a while back
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Jun 26, 2019 16:50
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like I saw Yang on the Breakfast Club and he seemed cool at first but then I learned about everything else and lmao
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Jun 26, 2019 16:53
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Lastgirl posted:Marianne Williamson and Andrew Yang are going to kill it Yeah, I can't wait for Marianne to have to answer for her bullshit anti-vaxx stances.
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Jun 26, 2019 16:53
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Nonsense posted:There’s an equally large enoughsanders board with a lot of chuds and earnest centrists. Bernie’s board gets raided a lot. You'll know the primaries have started in earnest when these folks start being quoted as indicative of Sanders supporters and not the poo poo stirrers that they are.
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Jun 26, 2019 16:58
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every other politician: *long complicated boring speech about w/e* YANG: ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS
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Jun 26, 2019 17:05
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williamson is the superior joke candidate anyways
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Jun 26, 2019 17:08
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Randomize the time each candidate gets. Make it like a gameshow Edit - drunk tank for a lie
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Jun 26, 2019 17:08
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Koalas March posted:like I saw Yang on the Breakfast Club and he seemed cool at first but then I learned about everything else and lmao Yeah he's trash.
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Koalas March posted:wait do we have legit Yang Stans posting because lol They inevitably had to skitter somewhere after someone walked into the cspam Yang thread and turned on the light.
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Jun 26, 2019 17:13
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I think the polls are rigged to show Biden lead. Also don’t know how much the voting stations or process are either
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Jun 26, 2019 17:20
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Considering how much of the Florida Democrats are retired/washed out New York Democrats, I wonder if there's going to be a question that is just thinly veiled pearl clutching about Tiffany Cabán's win last night.
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Jun 26, 2019 17:27
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Marianne Williamson did an interview with Chapo Trap House, it's pretty interesting. She's, tragically, not a socialist, but I'd say she's tied with Warren for my second choice now
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Jun 26, 2019 17:45
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https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3892716 I made a debate thread in CSPAM for all of the debates including the current one(s)
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Gripweed posted:Marianne Williamson did an interview with Chapo Trap House, it's pretty interesting. She's, tragically, not a socialist, but I'd say she's tied with Warren for my second choice now Her anti-vax stance is disqualifying and her attempts to walk back that position since gaining national attention have been not great. Edit: to be clear, her saying she supports vaccination but is skeptical is pure dissembling. Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Jun 26, 2019 |
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Jun 26, 2019 17:53
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If you think about it, everybody except Bernie and maybe Warren ought to be disqualified already, but unfortunately that's not how things work.
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Gripweed posted:Marianne Williamson did an interview with Chapo Trap House, it's pretty interesting. She's, tragically, not a socialist, but I'd say she's tied with Warren for my second choice now If you think that was a substantive interview then lol. The Chapo guys were just being civil and trying to elicit some soundbites about socialism, or failing that get her to go off on some Age of Aquarius bullshit, which she most certainly did at the end. If you found her arguments persuasive then you'd probably really enjoy Live Like A Lobster by Dr. Peeperson
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Gripweed posted:Marianne Williamson did an interview with Chapo Trap House, it's pretty interesting. She's, tragically, not a socialist, but I'd say she's tied with Warren for my second choice now Nah, gently caress her. No pseudo-spiritual anti-science "guru" types on Oprah for president, for gently caress's sakes. I don't want Oprah either so I definitely don't want someone who is only famous because of Oprah. No Dr Phil either. gently caress all TV hucksters trying to be president. One is already too many.
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This is interesting. Wonder why they voted no. https://twitter.com/PeterSullivan4/status/1143924784390164480
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