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| Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher |
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18 | 1.46% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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665 | 54.11% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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319 | 25.96% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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26 | 2.12% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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17 | 1.38% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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3 | 0.24% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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8 | 0.65% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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86 | 7.00% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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23 | 1.87% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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32 | 2.60% |
| Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy |
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2 | 0.16% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.08% |
| Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated |
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4 | 0.33% |
| Tim Ryan, the Dope Face |
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3 | 0.24% |
| John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran |
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7 | 0.57% |
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Remember when kamala’s dad called her out for being a shitheel? Good times There’s plenty to attack kamala on. Her lovely record, her being deceptive during this very primary (m4a, aipac,etc) If you care to look it’s p obvious she’s an opportunistic careerist that does whatever she thinks is necessary to become more powerful, whether it’s right or wrong
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Skippy McPants posted:I'm not convinced it is. It should be, and for us here is sure is, but a big chunk of Dems are still pretty chill with cops. The last time her cop bullshit started becoming big news it brought her support down. This was back earlier in the primary when she was the flavor of the week. I would not worry about harris’ supposed strength. She’s not a low tier candidate like booker, but she was so far behind coming into the debate tonight that she was not attacked on any of her glaring flaws. That she was able to tear down a stuttering old racist like Biden who’s clearly been hiding up till now cause he can’t handle any kind of scrutiny is not super surprising. If by the second debate she’s a front runner and she’s weathering attacks from the other candidates I’d be more concerned
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Jun 28, 2019 16:51
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/MikeDelMoro/status/1144575210445836289 second time on healthcare she also did it on aipac
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Jun 28, 2019 17:30
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TGLT posted:Well of course she's the most electable, you can't refuse the orders of a psychic. biden's racist as gently caress. imo that's worse than anti-vaxx, but you do you edit: also  at the idea that the sundowning mumbling racist wouldn't fall prey to every grifter he encounters. old people who aren't all there are notoriously difficult to scam right?
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Jun 28, 2019 18:37
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TGLT posted:That wasn't a defense of Biden, and anti-vax poo poo is going to get people killed. She does not strike me at all as some one who has a meaningful capacity for discerning good ideas from bad ones, and the idea she is going to do any better than default centrist when going up against well entrenched interests is laughable. I do not think she would do any better than Biden or Tim Ryan or the rest of those fucks. racism gets people killed on the regular. also, anti-vaxx bs is way more likely to be fought against by people in the government than racism considering institutional racism is still a thing that permeates our government but anti-vaxx mentalities are not. finally, biden seems less able to discern good ideas from bad ones considering he painted a giant loving target on his back the past few weeks by fondly reminiscing about his racist republican buddies and how he wishes he could go back to those days and also how he never made a mistake in his career (*cough* anti-bussing *cough*) i can understand saying you'd never vote for williamson. imo she's an amusing joke candidate. but saying you'd vote for biden over her is really questionable imo
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Jun 28, 2019 18:47
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TGLT posted:Snake oil people are loving loathsome. Yeah the Biden comment was probably too far because he's easily the worst of the actual candidates running, but I can't stand that predatory self help poo poo. racist segregationists are even more loathsome. i'd rather deal with a snake-oil peddler than a kkk member
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Jun 28, 2019 18:58
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Trabisnikof posted:I'm serious that Williamson is better than Biden. Badger of Basra posted:Don’t worry if she gets ahead of Bernie in any polls they’ll find out she’s actually a centrist neolib shill you have a real chip on your shoulder don't you?
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Jun 28, 2019 19:23
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VH4Ever posted:I mean that was an actual quote from many folks I saw crowing about his win so ironic racists didn't magically transform into racists. they were racist all along and were using irony as a shield against criticism of their poo poo views. it is incredibly possible for people to pretend to like williamson for the laughs but not actually like her on the other hand
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Jun 28, 2019 19:27
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TrixR4kids posted:Pre-debate I would've never guessed she'd be getting this much attention (here and elsewhere) while Yang and Pete* are barely an afterthought. you obviously haven't seen her golden egg tweets
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Jun 28, 2019 19:28
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unwantedplatypus posted:I mean theres a strong possibility that my brain is infested with a unique species of brainworms, but the more I hear about her the better she seems? And her weird wine mom approach to things might work out for her with people who arent politics nerds like us, we'll see I guess that and the stuff she puts out there is genuinely funny 
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Jun 28, 2019 19:30
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https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1144655011839991809 this will not end well for biden
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Jun 28, 2019 19:35
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if this is a preview of his "clarification of his stance on bussing" to the rainbow coalition... 
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Jun 28, 2019 19:38
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VitalSigns posted:I feel like Williamson confuses people the same way Gabbard does. that's my takeaway when sean10mm starting whining about people stanning for her
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Jun 28, 2019 19:43
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how many times in a day can the biden campaign stab themselves?
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Jun 28, 2019 19:46
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Solkanar512 posted:It's not that she's "kooky", she's an out and out anti-vaxxer. Measles maims and kills people. Cervical and throat cancer maim and kill people. These issues and more are now largely preventable because of vaccines. We used to have poo poo like smallpox and yearly polio seasons and we don't anymore because of modern loving medicine. We have record outbreaks of diseases that were previously declared eradicated in the United States because anti-vaxxers keep traveling to areas with active outbreaks and bringing it back home. These outbreaks affect newborns, the immunocompromised, folks who were vaccinated but the vaccine didn't take and the medically neglected children of anti-vaxxers. no-one is ignoring it. a lot of the other shitheads in the dem primaries espouse ideas that are more destructive in our current society, especially since those ideas are not controversial despite being so destructive.
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Jun 28, 2019 19:54
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Those aren't meaningfully distinguishable positions this is true. the thing that confuses me about this hyperventilation about her anti-vaxx positions is the lack of hyperventilating about other positions that are dangerous here and now, not just hypothetically dangerous. I guess because the mainstream candidates support hideous, awful policies that are mainstream, they shouldn't be worried about as much as a kook that probably thinks she can send hordes of angels into her bloodstream to fight off measels
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Jun 28, 2019 19:59
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:As far as I can tell, Williamson doesn't have "positions", she just has EMOTIONS i wouldn't be surprised. i still think she's less dangerous than a lot of acceptable, status quo democrats. likewise, i think the freakout about people saying anything nice about her is pretty silly
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Jun 28, 2019 20:02
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Gatts posted:When one is an immigrant one is required to have medical clearance and vaccinations. Is this not applied to children born of US citizens? Why is it not mandatory? I don’t support Marianne’s position it is up to the parent. It should be a requirement. i think it's not applied to the richer in this country, which is idiotic and selfish since it endangers herd immunity
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Jun 28, 2019 20:04
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https://twitter.com/marwilliamson/status/37081071291990016 i'm p sure people still hurt each other in evangelion
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Jun 28, 2019 20:58
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Groovelord Neato posted:angels are monstrous beings that had to say "be not afraid" whenever they appeared to humans so they wouldn't poo poo their pants. except that one bisexual one shinji had a crush on
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Jun 28, 2019 21:04
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:What do your chakras tell you people keep claiming there are honest to god williamson supporters in this thread despite no-one having actually said something like "vote for williamson" also, dunno why people are having arguments over whether to vote in the general, despite there being a pre-existing, excellent thread for discussing a topic that has little to do with the primary
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Jun 29, 2019 16:52
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so i saw this article posted about kamala harris in another thread: https://medium.com/@moon_bat/the-troubling-past-of-kamala-harris-f017207333cb it really illustrates the problems with kamala harris and why you should not, under any circumstances, support her i'd like to quote the whole post, as it's pretty heinous, but I'll just quote the section on her fighting to keep innocents in jail on technicalities quote:A Record of Incarcerating Innocents
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Jun 30, 2019 07:25
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He is unbelievably awful. It’s a wonder someone voted for him in the thread poll.
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Jun 30, 2019 16:00
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electability is such an amazingly stupid idea. imagine voting in the primary for what you think (but aren't sure) other people want instead of what you want
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Jul 1, 2019 17:38
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CelestialScribe posted:I've said a lot of stupid poo poo in this thread but this must be the dumbest thing I have ever seen someone say in D and D. thanks for the contentless "you're dumb" post celestialscribe you really convinced me that marxalot is dumb
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Jul 2, 2019 10:54
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Gripweed posted:Here's a big thread about why Buttigieg is bad, mostly stuff we knew about him doing everything he can to protect a racist, murderous police department. But this one was a surprise wait, buttchug is an antivaxxer? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jul 3, 2019 02:50
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It’s pretty great that Bootyjudge is now objectively even more of a joke-tier candidate than the crystal queen thanks to him being an anti-vaxxer. Any other anti-vaxx “respectable” candidates?
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Jul 3, 2019 12:39
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even if bernie isn't able to achieve everything (or even just a fraction of what he wants), having someone in office who will actually push and try to achieve things will be 100x better than what we had before where dem presidents are eternally helpless blobs that can only pass republican legislation and handouts to wealthy industries
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Jul 8, 2019 01:04
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Z. Autobahn posted:I thought Bernie had incredible willpower and a mass movement behind him that could overcome any obstacle? so are you just trolling at this point or something? cause no-one's said this
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Jul 8, 2019 01:40
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Z. Autobahn posted:your average American watching Joe Biden wax on about the Iraq war can't go out and pilot a drone to bomb a wedding no, they just have to join the military and train to do so, propagating the war machine
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Jul 8, 2019 19:42
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if warren drops out I expect her to endorse harris or someone instead of bernie
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Jul 8, 2019 21:59
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Midgetskydiver posted:There is a stark difference between knowingly saying something is false, and placing a little too much faith in one's own family members being correct about lineage. Her siblings and other family members have stated that they had a relative who was socially ostracized because everyone thought she had native blood. Turns out that was probably not the case but the belief did cause a rift in her family that was real. Warren herself mentions that the relative essentially had to elope in order to get married. i'm oklahoman too my mother told me my great grandmother was native american i was never dumb enough to try to claim that I was native american i also never tried to do dumb poo poo like this: quote:Democratic Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren, fending off questions about whether she used her Native American heritage to advance her career, said today she enrolled herself as a minority in law school directories for nearly a decade because she hoped to meet other people with tribal roots. you know why? because native americans are not like I am. I do not share their experiences or their oppression. neither does loving elizabeth warren quote:“Being Native American has been part of my story I guess since the day I was born,” said Warren, who never mentioned her Native American heritage on the campaign trail even as she detailed much of her personal history to voters in speeches, statements and a video. “These are my family stories, I have lived in a family that has talked about Native American and talked about tribes since I was a little girl.” she sure did love to pretend she did though Condiv fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Jul 9, 2019 |
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Jul 9, 2019 08:03
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Midgetskydiver posted:Yeah I'm sure your situation was exactly like hers and now you're pure enough to run for President. Congrats! i can't believe you're screaming "purity testing  " over a white woman claiming membership in a minority group for a decent chunk of her life, despite her interest in her native ancestry stopping at actually meeting any native americans or getting involved in the tribes she felt she hailed from
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e. warren: *pretends she's native american for huge chunks of her life* thread:  bernie sanders: *pretends he's the king of england with the help of an old man* thread: bernie's cancelled!
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Jaxyon posted:Warren: I'm a subject matter expert on helping the working class, I created a federal agency to protect consumers, I have plans for literally everything under the sun and am probably 2x as competent as almost any other politician. I posted quotes of her claiming native american heritage. her quotes. it's not a smear, it's something she really honestly did
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Jul 10, 2019 08:57
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Montalvo posted:There are a significant number of people who dislike Bernie while still wanting many of the things he proposes (healthcare, fixing income inequality, etc.). It just so happens that many of those people are women and minorities and they are often told by people who are not women and minorities that they should just put aside their concern and discomfort around the ways in which Bernie makes them feel invisible and unwelcome. This discourse often takes place in a way that is perceived as being harassing by minoritized folks, but when that fact itself is pointed out, they are also aggressively mocked for it. It's kind of a vicious cycle, which is why many of us have simply stopped caring about and engaging with the man and his candidacy, particularly now that Elizabeth Warren is in the race. what is there to dislike about bernie?
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Jul 10, 2019 16:22
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Montalvo posted:There are a significant number of people who dislike Bernie while still wanting many of the things he proposes (healthcare, fixing income inequality, etc.). It just so happens that many of those people are women and minorities and they are often told by people who are not women and minorities that they should just put aside their concern and discomfort around the ways in which Bernie makes them feel invisible and unwelcome. This discourse often takes place in a way that is perceived as being harassing by minoritized folks, but when that fact itself is pointed out, they are also aggressively mocked for it. It's kind of a vicious cycle, which is why many of us have simply stopped caring about and engaging with the man and his candidacy, particularly now that Elizabeth Warren is in the race. Also, if your goal is to not be mocked you might want to avoid erasing minority and female supporters of Bernie’s. Claiming bernie supporters are white cis-het men is not a good way to get a conversation started, especially when you claim to care about minorities and women. In short, erasure is bad, and you shouldn’t do it as a hello
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Jul 10, 2019 16:31
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Montalvo posted:Could you please point out where in my post I said that Bernie's supporters are all white cis-het men and that he has no support from women and minorities? Montalvo posted:they are often told by people who are not women and minorities that they should just put aside their concern and discomfort around the ways in which Bernie makes them feel invisible and unwelcome Again, erasure is bad, don’t do it
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Montalvo posted:If both of you are taking that away from that sentence, then I don't think we're going to really see eye to eye on this issue; as I was merely pointing out that the pushback to women and minorities that dislike Bernie comes from people who are not women and minorities; I made no assessment whatsoever about the nature and homogeneity of Bernie's supporters are large. Have a good one! You were merely erasing the women and minorities that disagree with you. It’s kind of hard to see eye to eye when your first post is along the lines of “if you disagree with me on bernie you’re a white cis-het male”
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