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Who do you wish to win the Democratic primaries?
This poll is closed.
Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher 18 1.46%
Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer 665 54.11%
Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker 319 25.96%
Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord 26 2.12%
Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe 5 0.41%
Julian Castro, the Twin 5 0.41%
Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer 5 0.41%
Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath 17 1.38%
Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino 3 0.24%
Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist 8 0.65%
Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen 86 7.00%
Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater 23 1.87%
Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool 32 2.60%
Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy 2 0.16%
Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast 1 0.08%
Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated 4 0.33%
Tim Ryan, the Dope Face 3 0.24%
John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran 7 0.57%
Total: 1229 votes
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The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/Robillard/status/1145720346206543872

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The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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ProperGanderPusher posted:

Reagan/Bush getting three terms in a row has convinced the Dems that progressives can never win in America. Thirty years having passed and Obama’s success despite not coming off as quite as centrist mean nothing.

Nixon too

There was a great article in the WaPo about how Biden was part of the Watergate babies who saw McGovern's loss as a sign that the time of being the party of the New Deal and the Great Society was over, and that it was time to retake the center. It also discussed Biden's role as a prominent participant in that process

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Hair Elf
Hot off the presses

https://twitter.com/DavidWright_CNN/status/1145784155478863872

Biden dropped 10% from the previous CNN poll

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Hair Elf

theblackw0lf posted:

This and the post above says so much of why our current debate structure, and what the media rewards, is so screwed up.

Effective zingers and attacks on opponents, get you a lot of traction, but say so little about how effective a president you'd be.

Its almost like our entire current model for how presidential candidates get coverage and picked has been maximized to help seel TV/newspaper ads as opposed to actually picking the best candidiate

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Hair Elf
I like both Warren and Bernie quite a lot. I think Warren has been significantly more outspoken on the need to abolish the filibuster and has been more willing to consider packing the supreme court, while I also think that her foreign policy is too much in line with the Clinton/Obama style interventionism. I think they'd both be great presidents who would work to reshape and fix many of the problems facing this nation

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Mantis42 posted:

A Bernie general election would just be 6 months of him eating poo poo over the millionaire thing and flailing his way to a historic loss.

Mantis42 posted:

A Kamala general election would just be 6 months of her eating poo poo over not being "black" thing and flailing her way to a historic loss.

Mantis42 posted:

A Biden general election would just be 6 months of him eating poo poo over speaking and talking and flailing his way to a historic loss.

Mantis42 posted:

A Marriane general election would just be 6 months of her eating crystals and flailing her way to a historic loss.

This is fun and easy

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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oxsnard posted:

I wonder if we hit a tipping point where industry (not healthcare or insurance ofc) actually pushes for single payer. If you look at how much employers spend on healthcare, that's a huge way to potentially cut costs. The only benefit for them is economies of scale (larger employers negotiate better deals, although that's marginal at best) and being able to keep employees hostage (although that's also debatable)

Yeah, I seriously think we're drat near that point, for a shitload of businesses the increased taxes would be cheaper than their contribution to healthcare

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/1146246213500620800

:lol:

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Hair Elf

KIM JONG TRILL posted:

It’s 100% going to go behind Kamala over the next couple of months now that she has shown herself capable of knifing Biden. He’s going to nosedive and quietly bow out for “health concerns” after another debate or two.

Thank gently caress, Biden was the absolute worst case scenario

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Luckyellow posted:

Ugh. The DNC is really bent on keeping Gravel out aren't they.

I mean, if Yang and Marianne can keep making it up there and Gravel can't, it clearly says that he is a tier below the other meme candidates in terms of appeal

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Z. Autobahn posted:

AOC is not going to endorse anyone until either Warren or Bernie drops, and then she's going to endorse the one of them who's left

My thoughts as well

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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crazy cloud posted:

MSNBC breathlessly reports that joe biden has now officially apologized for his comments about segregationists. We have an APOLOGY repeat JOEPOLOGIZED. Pologygate

Remember when he said that Booker should apologize to him?

Also, Biden isn't apologizing for working with segrationists or even apologizing for his comments, he is apologizing that his comments about working with segregationists was misunderstood

loving lol

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/thetomzone/status/1147617973936566272

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Hair Elf
I met a Pete Butts supporter IRL today. She liked him because he is young and feels younger generations need a bigger seat at the table of power.


We both talked about how much we hated Biden

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Hair Elf
The Franken thing is probably Gillibrand's best argument in my opinion, shame about the literally everything else

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Hair Elf

Lol, did people not have taste buds in the 70s?

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1148752028681814016

She'll be 35 by next summer

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/1149423188545277952

https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/1149423491596378113


I think this one is the most interesting part, its a very good question and more polls should include it: Whether you'd favor a candidate that proposes large, sweeping changes that might have trouble passing or if you prefer a candidate that proposes less ambitious, but easier to pass proposals?
https://twitter.com/aedwardslevy/status/1149424411612782594

The Glumslinger fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Jul 11, 2019

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1149746952332034054

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/pdmcleod/status/1150898825491599362

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Charlz Guybon posted:

Rubio did it in 2016, so it's not impossible.

Rubio had incumbency

I think Beto could still do it if he has a good second debate. He'd need to have a miraculous debate to get back into the presidential race, but he could turn a good debate performance into enough respectability to try again for Senate. Right now I feel like Castro is in a way better place.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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mormonpartyboat posted:

which was unearned. there was no real primary, and the general debates were a loving horrorshow of incompetence

he just wasn't ted cruz and positioned himself as a white obama with a skateboard instead of shoot hoop

I think Texas Democrats liked him because he was the candidate in ages with a pulse. I have a lot of family in Texas and they were so happy to not have an obvious loser running for once.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Hair Elf

:laffo:

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Hair Elf
Is it really a shock that under this loving president, people don't want to elect another outsider candidate?

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Hair Elf
Telling cancer and AIDS patients to just pray it away is also a pro-murder stance

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/1152011612225622017

:hai:

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Gyges posted:

Nah, that's a real dumb distillation of the issue. The context of time and the surrounding comments make a bug difference in how bad the surface same stance is.

I believe bussing is bad because of traffic concerns, which is why I favor giving elementary school students jetpacks so they can more easily commute to school :pseudo:

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Majorian posted:

How can we reach across the aisle if we don't get at least SOME Republicans elected? Checkmate, leftailures!:smug:

We take enough house seats that we can't fit all of the Dems on one side

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Insanite posted:

can't wait for the marksmanship portion of the debate.

I'm looking forward to the talent contest

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Gripweed posted:

Buttigieg is way better than Beto at this

Beto's 2018 handlers deserve all the loving awards

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1156364942146265088

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Republicans posted:

Boy I like Warren and I hope she and Bernie run together.

Nah, one of them has to stay in the Senate and take over for Schumer's worthless rear end

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Gripweed posted:

I really think they had some kinda backroom discussion and are gonna be a tag team through the whole primary

It would be an extremely smart strategy, especially until the field get whittled down

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Hair Elf

Serious question, when did everyone just start saying brown people instead of talking about middle-eastern and latinos?

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Awful CompSloth posted:

When Twitter decided to. It's fine but people shouldn't act like it means anything progressive or is anti racist or makes any kind of strong statement at all. It's just a meme imo.

I know, but I remember when it was still like edgelord poo poo, and its kinda strange how much more mainstream its become

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Faustian Bargain posted:

What happened, I can’t watch right now

Warren and Bernie are taking turns bodyslamming moderates and their reuse of republican talking points

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/jbillinson/status/1156373726331625473

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/pdmcleod/status/1156378907949568002

:hai:

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The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

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Probae some IKs?

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