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| Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher |
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18 | 1.46% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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665 | 54.11% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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319 | 25.96% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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26 | 2.12% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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17 | 1.38% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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3 | 0.24% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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8 | 0.65% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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86 | 7.00% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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23 | 1.87% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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32 | 2.60% |
| Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy |
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2 | 0.16% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.08% |
| Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated |
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4 | 0.33% |
| Tim Ryan, the Dope Face |
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3 | 0.24% |
| John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran |
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7 | 0.57% |
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VH4Ever posted:Don't you mean "yaasss queen"? I thought she was cool now? No, she's just hilarious.
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Feldegast42 posted:Do we have any real confirmation that Biden is dropping in the polls other than the one teasing tweet shook Nate sent out? I'm not really convinced it's done anything yet... We probably won't see the real impact of the debates until next week.
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Jun 29, 2019 01:17
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VH4Ever posted:Funny, I don't even need to say anything. You already got owned by KM. Irrespective of any bullshit with Luckyellow, you were wrong to be upset by Gravel though.
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Jun 29, 2019 02:03
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VH4Ever posted:Nah. I regret nothing. Doesn't really matter if you regret it, you were wrong. Issue candidates - especially for issues that have basically no representation in national politics like anti-imperialism - are good and important.
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Jun 29, 2019 04:08
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VH4Ever posted:Right. I'll gather up some McChickens and magic crystals and give a toast to the "issue candidates." Marianne Williamson is not an issue candidate, she's a hilarious weirdo. There's a difference between that and candidates like Inslee and Gravel.
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Jun 29, 2019 04:14
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TulliusCicero posted:I have news for all you "can't vote because principles" people: The protest vote thread is thataway.
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Jun 29, 2019 15:10
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guestimate posted:I've been reading voraciously and lurking for weeks. I'm glad to see at least some discussion about options if Bernie isn't the democratic nominee. I wanted Bernie in 2016, voted for him in the primary, and fervently want him to be our next president. This isn't the protest vote thread. That said, don't blame the voters for Clinton's terrible campaign, that's all on her.
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Jun 30, 2019 02:04
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https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1145492550746288131
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Jul 1, 2019 01:42
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kidkissinger posted:this is trolling right It's an unsourced quote.
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Jul 1, 2019 16:39
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mcmagic posted:Trump being the president has driven mainstream D's insane. This is not a recent phenomenon
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Jul 1, 2019 17:42
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The Glumslinger posted:Hot off the presses Ugh, this is a really bad poll. Hopefully things change in a more positive direction.
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Jul 1, 2019 21:12
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Ogmius815 posted:It’s very good and reasonable that suddenly “well it was a long time ago and now he’s open to changing his mind” is an acceptable excuse when it comes from Son Bernie. A big part of the reason Biden sucks is that he refuses to change his mind about anything. That's why this conversation about busing came up in the first place.
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Jul 6, 2019 02:11
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Eiba posted:I think basically anyone can beat Trump if they don't suck as bad as Clinton... and I think even Clinton could probably have a good shot if she tried again. Trump is, despite his incumbency, incredibly unpopular. I don't think anyone has a particularly bad chance against Trump. The part of this quote that I emphasized is absolutely not true. There are a lot of good things that a Warren presidency would do, but she is really obviously on the same (horrific) page as the rest of the mainstream Democrats when it comes to foreign policy, which is one of the areas where the president has the most authority.
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Jul 9, 2019 18:21
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Iamgoofball posted:so what the gently caress do you want then, are you just going to vote for trump then? because if you're going to vote for trump, then i think you're on the wrong forums, you should try that gab website i think it's more up your alley Main Paineframe asked the thread to stop posting about who you'd vote for in the general, you should probably follow that rule.
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Jul 9, 2019 19:29
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:https://twitter.com/gindaanis/status/1148400437332045824?s=19 You forgot the Gravel teens. Also, drat, I thought I heard Castro come out of the debate looking good, how is he behind Booker of all people?
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Jul 10, 2019 03:50
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LinYutang posted:https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/status/1148549603387744256?s=19 Yeah, we talked about this before. That MoE is huge, this poll is basically useless; interesting curiosity, though.
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Jul 10, 2019 04:24
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VH4Ever posted:A few more McChickens ought to do it, eh? Getting Gravel into the debates IS productive
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Jul 12, 2019 18:04
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Tibalt posted:Lol, someone can't take a joke. VH4ever is very serious about this
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Jul 12, 2019 18:06
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Incidentally, according to the article, some other campaigns offer similar positions, but they're either paid or guarantee academic credit. Only Warren and Biden offer it as an unpaid position with no academic credits earned. Bernie doesn't offer it at all. All of his internship positions are paid. E: To be clear, unpaid internships that offer academic credit are also bad. Just not as bad.
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Jul 12, 2019 22:31
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VH4Ever posted:I'm not happy about it either, but some of the performative wokeness in this thread about it, when it was the general way things operated since forever, is a bit much. Can't we simply acknowledge that if you're "campaign staff" you should probably be paid something and move on? Bernie having a unionized campaign staff is something objectively good and worth highlighting, but Warren not having one isn't any worse that the other 18 candidates who don't either so I'm not sure why she's being singled out here (or in the article), that's all. I guess if we used that info to start an effort on social media and by phone calls and letters to push her to transform her staff as Bernie did it would make a positive difference but it seems like people ITT think passionately making GBS threads on her for it helps those people or something. It doesn't. Well, she's being singled out in the article because it's something that only she and Biden are doing. Again, at minimum everyone else who does this gives academic credit, and even that isn't good enough. Warren and Biden are the only ones offering unpaid internship options that don't even do that much. It's not really performative wokeness so much as it's being consistent. If you truly believe that all core campaign staff should be paid, you should be calling her out on this too.
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Jul 12, 2019 22:45
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VH4Ever posted:Oh for gently caress's sake. It's possible, but he's on a livestream right now and he seems reasonably sharp. Totally possible that he's just on one of his good days, who knows, but if he's as sharp as he is right this minute, he'll be fine.
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Jul 13, 2019 00:49
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VH4Ever posted:Right. You know me, the Biden stan. Isn't it OK if I want Biden, Gravel and Tulsi to all gently caress off together? Nope! His voice at the debates is actually pretty loving important.
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Jul 13, 2019 00:55
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VH4Ever posted:Right. I can't wait to hear about his last trip to The LensCrafters and Country Kitchen Buffet. What the gently caress is this? Dude is lucid. He'll talk about poo poo that matters. His voice will be far more relevant than Tim Ryan, or John Hickenlooper, or even idiots who are actually polling well like Harris or Buttigieg.
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Jul 13, 2019 01:01
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VH4Ever posted:You're breaking my heart. Tell all those assholes to gently caress off too. I love that by making GBS threads on Gravel somehow I confer love for Tim Ryan on myself. Nice counter argument. By making GBS threads on Gravel, particularly in the manner which you're doing it, all you're really doing is making yourself look like a huge rear end in a top hat.
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Jul 13, 2019 01:05
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VH4Ever posted:Right. Let's all talk about how 9/11 was a false flag engineered by Dick Cheney instead, that will own those Centrists! Yeah, he's not going to do that. Even if he still believes that's true, he's not going to bring it up at the debate because it's completely loving irrelevant 18 years after the fact. He's instead going to talk about modern, relevant issues, like the tremendous harm we're inflicting upon the people in Central and South America.
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Jul 13, 2019 01:12
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VH4Ever posted:Still not sure why folks (not you) ITT think this notion and mine are mutually exclusive. Who do you actually think should be at the debates? Everyone? No one but Bernie and Warren? Only the people polling at least 5%? What criteria are you actually running with?
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Jul 13, 2019 01:25
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Come to think about it, does Bernie's plan address people living in the dorms at school? That could be a way to minimize (or even outright zero out) cost of living expenses at covered schools.
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Jul 14, 2019 20:24
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:Correct me if I'm wrong, but any tax increase on the middle class would be completely neutralized by the fact that health insurance premiums would no longer be a thing, yes? Not only that, you would almost certainly have more money left in your pocket after all is said and done.
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Jul 17, 2019 18:50
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Lightning Knight posted:Yes, I agree that Williamson is better than the failson empty suit centrist white men, which is funny, but doesn’t actually mean I like her. Jay Inslee should only be looked at as an issue candidate. Dude doesn't even have a foreign policy page on his website.
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Jul 18, 2019 21:51
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Chilichimp posted:One page apart. Gravel is running as an issue candidate. He's not in the same category as the vast majority of the no-hopers.
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Jul 22, 2019 20:21
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CelestialScribe posted:I don't disagree but the problem is that people want to keep their insurance. How do you get around that issue? You work your rear end off to clear up misconceptions, remind people that even if they do like their current insurance, any random thing could cause them to lose it (including, but not limited to job transfers and the company's management deciding that these other plans are more economical for them), and that M4A will be better than their current insurance anyway. It's important to keep in mind that the purpose of trying to fix our hosed up healthcare system is an attempt to actually solve the problem, and a public option almost certainly won't do that.
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Jul 30, 2019 13:56
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Mellow Seas posted:Yes but “everybody else is an amoral piece of poo poo” is not cool in a situation where a substantial majority of the world disagrees with you. Considering how uniquely terrible the US is on this issue, you're gonna need to cite that.
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Jul 31, 2019 00:39
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Can't help but notice that Delaney ignored how Clinton lost. Oh well, couldn't possibly be important.
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Jul 31, 2019 01:18
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I'm seeing a running theme here.
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Jul 31, 2019 01:21
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I can guarantee that Delaney and those other fuckheads didn't ask hospital admins how they would do if they didn't need to worry about insane admin fees and documentation and just had guaranteed payment for every procedure and for every visit. They absolutely did not ever ask about that.
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Jul 31, 2019 01:48
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Dammerung posted:Of course not, that would weaken their talking points. Exactly. 
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Jul 31, 2019 01:50
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Gripweed posted:these time limits suck so much They're way too short.
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Jul 31, 2019 01:52
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God, gently caress off Tim.
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Jul 31, 2019 02:52
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SpaceCadetBob posted:It is super clear that Liz and Bernie have a Non-aggression pact for tonight. Considering how hostile the other candidates and the moderators have been to them and their ideas, that was definitely the right call on their part.
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Jul 31, 2019 03:00
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DC Murderverse posted:i just turned this on, how many times has bernie given this exact speech tonight already? Somehow this was the first time.
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