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| Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher |
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18 | 1.46% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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665 | 54.11% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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319 | 25.96% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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26 | 2.12% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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17 | 1.38% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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3 | 0.24% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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8 | 0.65% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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86 | 7.00% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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23 | 1.87% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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32 | 2.60% |
| Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy |
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2 | 0.16% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.08% |
| Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated |
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4 | 0.33% |
| Tim Ryan, the Dope Face |
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3 | 0.24% |
| John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran |
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7 | 0.57% |
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it's pretty funny how questioning the sanctity of saturday night live is what's done her in
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ok warren could theoretically get democrats to vote for her but bernie consistently polls with a much bigger margin against trump than her
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Jul 9, 2019 18:03
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this is something people should have learned after the 2016 election but "popular among democrats" does not necessarily mean "popular among general election voters"
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Jul 9, 2019 18:05
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vivazomo posted:The average American has no idea what busing is and would oppose it if they learned what it is because they are racist. i think this explains harris trying to thread the needle on favoring it back then but not liking the idea of it now because rich dem donors would pitch a fit if the idea were floated of integrating today's schools
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Jul 9, 2019 18:44
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Are there any ways to integrate schools other than busing desegregate the country
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Jul 9, 2019 19:28
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Iamgoofball posted:so what the gently caress do you want then, are you just going to vote for trump then? because if you're going to vote for trump, then i think you're on the wrong forums, you should try that gab website i think it's more up your alley if you want trump to lose and you dont care which not-trump wins you clearly shouldnt be supporting warren and by all evidence should be backing biden
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Jul 9, 2019 19:33
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Iamgoofball posted:biden seems to be a one trick pony and getting out fundraised by beto(i think, i need to go check who it was again) shows that the money isn't betting on biden either money isnt votes though e: he was outraised last quarter by butt who is even more doomed in an election matchup with trump than warren is
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Jul 9, 2019 19:36
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Iamgoofball posted:when it comes down to it i'm not even sure if trump is beatable when it comes to an election matchup unless you have someone who can be as much of a douchebag publicly as he can yeah which is why the country needed michael "basta" avenatti
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Jul 9, 2019 19:50
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ross perot was right about nafta
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Jul 9, 2019 20:30
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pretty good for bernie tbh since the news has spent the last two months or so in lockstep saying that bernie has no plans or policy ideas
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Jul 9, 2019 22:20
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Typo posted:I think the obvious solution would be for Bernie to adopt some of Warren's policies, that way you get best of both worlds: warrne's popular policies and bernie's electability personally i prefer bernie's plan of cancelling all student debt and paying for it with a financial transaction tax over warren's idea of canceling up to $50000 of student debt and paying for it with ???
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Jul 9, 2019 22:22
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Jaxyon posted:Warren''s plan has a cap on what it cancels but also doesn't cancel debt for rich people, and uses a wealth tax vs a stock market transaction tax, bernie's cancels it for everyone including those who don't need it cancelled but also doesn't cap the cancellation. rich people dont have college debt, excluding them from forgiveness is pointless. its just as silly as saying that trump's kids shouldnt get free public college, no billionaire would be caught dead sending their kids to a public school
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Jul 9, 2019 22:42
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Typo posted:I suspect there's people in this very thread whose parents make >$100k but have student debt in fact warren's plan with its phaseouts basically seems to exclude doctors and only doctors, who are the ones with the biggest piles of student debt and who are the ones who get paid enough to go over the phaseouts when their careers finally begin at age 35 or whatever
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Jul 9, 2019 22:51
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warren was building political capital by not running in 2016
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Jul 9, 2019 23:28
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Berke Negri posted:there is definitely an argument either way, and clearly warren decided not running was the more secure option, but i do think she'd be starting on a much better footing this year had she ran warren would be on much better footing this year if she had ran in 2016 because she would be the incumbent president
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Jul 10, 2019 00:19
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first, it's not quite the government "paying off" student loan debt since iirc like 95% of student loan debt is owed to the federal government, and just like any other creditor the government can forgive the debt if it feels like it second, i am not sure what you mean when you quote a quote that says "we will make public colleges tuition free" and then say "but how will people pay for tuition?" if you are predicting that the public colleges will get full and some students will be forced to go to private colleges that are not tuition free, the solution is to hire more teachers and open more schools.
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Jul 10, 2019 02:26
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Epicurius posted:I mean the new students who don't go to a public school or HBE? Because according to that Fortune article, it's only going to be education at state schools, trade schools, and HBUs that's going to be free for students. So, say Sanders gets elected in 2020 and Congress passes the bill on inauguration day 2021. So then, lets say I'm high school class of 2021, and go to college in fall of 2021. I don't go to a state school or an HBU, so I've got to pay tuition, which I can't afford, so I have to take out loans. Are you saying that those loans will capped at 1.88% interest? the sanders-omar-jayapal bill caps interest on student loans at the rate the government pays for its debt, which they quote as currently 1.88%. not sure if this is only public or private loans, but again nearly all student debt, even for people who go to private schools, is owed to the government. the privately-held school debt is mainly owed by students who were preyed on by predatory for-profit schools Epicurius posted:The public colleges are full now, and budgets there are being cut. the tax on wall street included in the bill would raise an absurd amount of money. the money goes to the states to spend on, among other things, building more schools and hiring more faculty
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Jul 10, 2019 03:18
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marianne is good
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Jul 10, 2019 03:24
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Majorian posted:I love that you can't tell the difference in terms of power standings between a senator running in a Democratic primary, and a President with a popular mandate aimed at seriously overhauling things. people still base their expectation on what a president is able to accomplish and how much he can push the narrative on what obama did compared to what he said he wanted to do (the statement of what he wanted to do of course mostly being lies) both bush and trump came in with agendas that sound impossibly ambitious when you say it out loud that they could convince everyone to go along with it ("end the supposed post-cold war era of global peace and create a new unending global state of war," and "make every person in the world pay attention to me at all times") but they did it easy peasy
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Jul 10, 2019 06:21
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DARPA posted:The fact he said white people feeling uncomfortable voting for black candidates isn't racist. Oh Snapple! posted:That's not what he did. his postmortem on gillum and abrams losing was that they lost because of racism that makes white people hesitatant to vote for black people, but on the other hand the fact that both gillum and abrams nearly won after embracing him (gillum especially), despite the headwinds of racism, is evidence that racism can be beaten with a strong progressive agenda (similarly to how obama won a much higher share of white votes than hillary despite being black by having a much better campaign message than she did). since the media loathes nuance and always wants to stir up poo poo they ignored what he said and reported it as "bernie says dems must pander to racists" Shear Modulus fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Jul 10, 2019 |
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Jul 10, 2019 20:53
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roberts's M.O. has been to guess what is the absolute limit he can go to before mainstream liberals begin openly questioning the integrity of the supreme court and then go right up to that limit. he correctly guessed that if he didnt kill obamacare himself but instead told the states they can kill obamacare, that anger would not be focused on him but instead on the republican state governments
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Jul 10, 2019 21:00
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Gyges posted:Aren't these things already part of your score? I know a few years ago a lack of rental/property ownership records was a ding on my score. credit scores are computed however the company computing the scores feels like computing it she basically wants the credit score companies to include rent payments if they arent, with the idea that since poor people dont have credit cards or mortgages the credit score companies dont bother keeping a file on them so nobody wants to loan them money its a silly idea because the reason that poor people have bad or no credit scores is because they are poor, which is reflected by them not being able to get a mortgage, or having to carry credit card debt to live. having no money is going to also be reflected in someone's rent or utility bills Shear Modulus fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Jul 11, 2019 |
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Jul 11, 2019 00:53
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lol Legislation to amend the Fair Credit Reporting Act has already received bipartisan support. A bill introduced in 2017 by former House Representative Keith Ellison, a Democrat from Minnesota, that would require this additional data in credit scoring managed to pass the House of Representatives. The Senate version of that bill, which was authored by Senator Tim Scott, a Republican from South Carolina, attracted both Democratic and Republicans co-sponsors, though Harris was not among them.
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Jul 11, 2019 01:06
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my biggest problem with warren, just like my biggest problem was with hillary, is that she would lose to trump
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Jul 11, 2019 02:32
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Punk da Bundo posted:I don’t understand any support for Butt at all . When he speaks he never says anything . Like platitudes about service or virtue or endless nonsense . thats what presidents on tv talk about which is why they like him
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Jul 11, 2019 17:50
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Punk da Bundo posted:what tv shows are popular right now that have a president ? the west wing and hazy half-remembered recollections of jfk also being youngish and saying that americans should do things for their country
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Jul 11, 2019 18:09
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News headline: Bernie Sanders leads crooked poll
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Jul 11, 2019 18:30
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Marxalot posted:But she's a politician -now- and thus can't be trusted. But if you want to keep sticking your hand in the fire, repeatedly, for the cause of the center-right that keeps swearing up and down that they're really all about Progressive Hope and Change(tm) then be my guest I suppose. if you click to their analysis of their poll they have ten bullet points, only two of which mention sanders, and then only as part of the point. the two mentions of sanders are "low awareness voters like sanders" and "sanders supporters are more likely than other candidates' supporters to say that the candidate's positions are important". the latter point is literally the last sentence in the article
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Jul 11, 2019 19:30
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lots of "independent" family farms are under contract from an agribusiness company where they get seed or young animals from smithfield or tyson or whoever, then sell the product to the same company at a contract-specified price. just like any other "independent contracting" situation the company gets to dictate the terms of the contract because the farmer has no market power. in addition the farmer of course assumes the risk of the crop not producing due to poor weather, disease, etc. (they can of course buy insurance against that but that stuff is expensive)
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Jul 12, 2019 18:18
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theblackw0lf posted:This is really interesting lol quote:"If you were looking to buy a rising stock, you would look at future market share and indicators of strong fundamentals,” said Adam Green, co-founder of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, which backs Warren.
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Jul 12, 2019 18:42
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mcmagic posted:Warren should pay her interns immediately. as the article explains she does pay her interns however she does not pay her "fellows" who perform the exact same tasks as the interns fact check: four pinnochios
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Jul 12, 2019 19:56
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look everyone knows that as soon as someone who is smart is in charge everything will instantly be fixed
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Jul 12, 2019 20:43
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yes, there are many people who want to do political work but need money to eat. but what about those who want to do political work but can be self-sufficient on food and rent by getting money from their parents? shouldnt they get extra opportunities in exchange for the money they are saving the campaign?
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Jul 12, 2019 22:19
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EdithUpwards posted:https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-kamala-harris-come-pelosi-s-defense-after-aoc-criticism-n1029336 lol 
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Jul 12, 2019 23:59
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Pinky Artichoke posted:I didn't realize that the purpose of the debates was to hear random voices. yeah thats why they are grabbing literally random people off the street instead of putting requirements of needing 65,000 donors to demonstrate public support
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Jul 13, 2019 01:26
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crystal lady brought a million times more to the debate as bennett, tim ryan, swallwel, hickenlooper, delaney, de blasio, and moultoon did put together gravel would as well
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Jul 13, 2019 01:47
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Awful CompSloth posted:I love how people here always complain that all the no names are white men. Gillibrand is as much of a joke as them, Wayne Messam can't even get on the stage and Stacey Abrams wouldn't crack 2% or 3% and would have a lot less to say than the hype would have you expect. how could you forget the klobb
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Jul 13, 2019 02:54
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biden already promised to cure cancer if elected during one of his first campaign speeches
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warren will make ICE eco-friendly just like her plan to fix the military
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Jul 14, 2019 01:20
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