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Who do you wish to win the Democratic primaries?
This poll is closed.
Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher 18 1.46%
Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer 665 54.11%
Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker 319 25.96%
Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord 26 2.12%
Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe 5 0.41%
Julian Castro, the Twin 5 0.41%
Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer 5 0.41%
Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath 17 1.38%
Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino 3 0.24%
Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist 8 0.65%
Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen 86 7.00%
Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater 23 1.87%
Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool 32 2.60%
Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy 2 0.16%
Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast 1 0.08%
Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated 4 0.33%
Tim Ryan, the Dope Face 3 0.24%
John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran 7 0.57%
Total: 1229 votes
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Aug 24, 2005
I don't kiss my kids on the mouth

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Aug 24, 2005
Reporters on my local NPR affiliate yesterday were blaming the criticism of Harris' criminal justice record on Russia

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Aug 24, 2005

Majorian posted:

That's not actually what I'm doing. I am questioning the validity of praising Warren's plan for being "complex" when complex doesn't necessarily mean "better."


Nor am I ordering anybody to do anything. You're reading some really weird tones into the pretty mild things I've posted.

The person you responded to didn't praise the plan for being complex, he pushed back on the idea that it was less detailed than Sanders' plan. Tilting at windmills etc etc.

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Aug 24, 2005

Majorian posted:

I agree with this. The fact that her performance didn't help her all that much, particularly compared to the Comey memo, just suggests that the debates weren't particularly important factors in that election.

That said, I think there's an important lesson there for the 2020 debates, ie: winning like Clinton did may not be all that helpful to Sanders or Warren or whoever.

The lesson could also be that the debates aren't that important and continually focusing on Warren's theoretical debate performance vs Trump is a red herring.

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