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Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

Helsing posted:

Even in the context of a criminal international pedophile conspiracy white male privilege still applies. Epstein seems to have been a weird creep who coasted from high school drop out to fake hedge-fund billionaire while his prisoners and paramours had to learn how to pilot helicopters and submarines and were also seemingly responsible for all the legwork involved in actually acquiring and grooming the victims of his predatory instincts.

They're going to use this angle to try to make her look innocent or as though she was roped in unwittingly and it might work because clearly no one actually read those unsealed docs that are littered with accounts of her raping children too.

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Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

twoday posted:

This is also not the forgotten civilization i was referring to


Were you referring to whoever made Göbekli Tepe?

(I agree that this would be a great topic for a thread btw)

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

Flat Daddy posted:

epstein used an unpatched physics glitch (crouch and go prone into leg of bed) to get his velocity high enough to suicide

autopsy was difficult to perform since he was clipped halfway through the floor when he was found

He was doing a get out of child rape trafficking and possibly eventual espionage charges speedrun.

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

AnEdgelord posted:


1. What is actually in the unsealed court records? People have already pulled a few names out of it but I'm sure we're only scratching the surface.

You can find out for yourself here:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6250471-Epstein-Docs.html

Inspector Hound posted:

Going away present

The pedophile's version of a last meal

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Did Epstein also own Big St. James? because I notice it’s a lot less developed than Little St. James. perfect place to play the deadliest game though.

That medium post a few pages back says he purchased it in 2016 so it was still under development when he was arrested.

Here's the source from the medium link:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-dodged-questions-about-sex-with-his-dalton-prep-school-students

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

Ace of Baes posted:

There is no visible damage from the outside so I doubt it was from a hurricane.

The dome is gone. And it looks like those windows might be new too, so I wouldn't rule out hurricane damage completely.

You can see scaffolding, buckets, and other work/demo gear in the temple in even the earliest drone footage so it's clear they were doing work on it at least before this latest raid.

You can also see that the whole side of the island where that digital blocking was seems to have been hit hard, there are a few smaller structures that aren't aren't there anymore and a whole house-sized building stood where that grass field with the flagpole is now.

The question is whether this work is because of hurricane damage or to cover up evidence.

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

TeenageArchipelago posted:

holy gently caress the world is run by cabals of pedophiles. the dutroux affair, jeffery epstein, john of god. how many kiddy loving networks HAVEN'T been found? jesus gently caress crack ping brain


The world is run by organized crime because it's simply the highest paying vocation and money is literally the measure of power in this hellworld.

AFAICT the breakdown in terms of what is worth the most is arms dealing/war profiteering > human trafficking > drug trafficking/distribution, and obviously the three overlap in several places.

Communist revolution doesn't go far enough, we need to abolish the trade economy.

EDIT:


But that leaves out literally the most ominous part of the Finders - that one member's creepy loving quote about how they'd be back.

some creepy cultist bastard posted:

Terrell refused to answer questions of reporters from select media he invited to a hastily called news conference. He said because the group no longer existed he could not speak for them. "That's it," he said before walking out of the Florida Press Center. "See you in the 21st century."

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1987-03-12-0110370199-story.html

Regulus74 has issued a correction as of 06:49 on Aug 22, 2019

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

gh0stpinballa posted:

we should compile all the notorious elite paedo ring cases and cross reference to build our database, if we are serious about antipaedosocialism we need to know everything we can about these spiral triangle motherfuckers

This is one of the stated goals of the anon op deatheaters, they're literally working on this right now afaik

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

gh0stpinballa posted:

where does the nxvim cult or what its called fit into this

The Seagrams heirs (the Bronfmans) were running the cult and Edgar jr. (former WB music CEO) is in the black book. Charles is a founder of the Mega Group along with Wexner.

Whitney Webb talks about them in all three parts of her series:

https://www.mintpressnews.com/shocking-origins-jeffrey-epstein-blackmail-roy-cohn/260621/

https://www.mintpressnews.com/blackmail-jeffrey-epstein-trump-mentor-reagan-era/260760/

https://www.mintpressnews.com/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

TeenageArchipelago posted:

how reliable is @mooncult as a source? No idea who that is, and I really don't feel like fact checking them

Every one of their posts links to a source or screenshots of a real article, so about as reliable as any of those are.

Although I guess that sounds like I'm being more dismissive than I really am, poo poo like "here's a picture of maxwell and rupert murdoch" or "here is the literal byline and celona's name in the credits" is more solid than most information we're getting on this case.

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

bad posts ahead!!! posted:

i'll never praise anything that nazi piece of poo poo makes

The mccain comic is legit good as hell though

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007
idk if it counts as :filez: to post a direct link, but Programmed to Kill has been available for free for a few years now, you can find a pdf of it with a google search

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

Bip Roberts posted:

lol if you read the exile and didn't immediately conclude that Ames was clearly way more creepy than everyone else

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007
The difficult thing about reading something like Programmed to Kill is that even the sensationalist parts and the instances of bunk data don't do anything to soften the blow. If anything, knowing the context around those citation needed moments makes things worse.

There are a number of studies in chapter 2 for instance that since 2004 have been proven to be essentially outright lies about trafficking numbers but the fact remains that there really is no acceptable number of trafficked children, it doesn't matter if it's 60 rather than 600,000. And then when you look at the context of why those overblown numbers even exist - to entice funding for NGOs and the prison industrial complex to incarcerate everyone but the loving traffickers and wealthy rapists - it's somehow even more disgusting.

That book is like fractal in the ways it will just smash you in the face with how much disdain the ruling class has for the rest of the world.

gh0stpinballa posted:

so the criminal case has now collapsed. what about maxwell? no grounds to find her and bring her in?

Aren't there only civil suits against her? I assume she is one of the co-conspirators in the non prosecution agreement, meaning it isn't possible to bring criminal charges against her in the states.

COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

yall heard of the Finders? This is (one of) the mechanisms operating at the ground level that procures/recruits children for abuse by people, who while not necessarily connected in any way to Epstein, are free to go about their business because of the sheer lack of awareness (and active unwillingness to acknowledge the possibility of) this kind of poo poo.

I can't remember if anyone posted this in here so "you won't be hearing from the Finders again until Hong Kong is being run by the Chinese and the Panama Canal is being managed by the Panamanians -- in other words at least until the year 2000... See you in the 21st century."

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

gh0stpinballa posted:

i mean i agree no number is acceptable but UNICEF itself estimates 1.2 million children alone are trafficked every year, a number which is way above the 200000 given in programmed to kill. they've uncovered 150000 cases of sex slavery in the US alone. this is only based on existing data too, the true number of modern slaves is likely way higher.

Literally all of those numbers are compromised. Arguing against the means of obtaining and subsequent usage of those numbers to further enrich the wealthy and bury the marginalized is like simultaneously in and out of the bounds of this thread - the prison industrial complex's interest in criminalizing sex work is a workers' rights argument that doesn't apply to trafficked slaves and the attempt to conflate the two is really the point where the twain meet.

I'm not interested in getting into it here because there is no way to not massively derail from this epstein poo poo to just ultimately circle back to the points that literally any number of trafficked children that isn't zero is unacceptable and that the rich need to have their power stripped from them and never afforded even a fraction of it again.

Really, I just responded to post this: https://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/inside-unicefs-bizarre-2018-masquerade-ball/

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

Dr. Killjoy posted:

wow, can’t believe those sickos at the unicef Halloween ball decided to theme it to look all spooky


Yeah there is nothing sinister about jean paul getty's grandson wearing a bull demon mask next to a slogan that says children first, no siree

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007
That footage is from the 2005 raid, it's doubtful the phone cameras were any better back then.

Also found this scan of the investigation on the Finders: https://web.archive.org/web/2019030...n%20FINDERS.pdf

EDIT: And here's the full video mooncult has been posting about if you want to go over it. It's not all the footage, from what I can tell it's mostly taken from this daily mail article.

Regulus74 has issued a correction as of 07:01 on Aug 29, 2019

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007
Wow, "ingratiate himself with the local leaders" is a very euphemistic way to describe the billionaire child trafficker giving them surveillance gear specifically intended for children and funding an event to determine who the most beautiful kid on the island is.

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

Crazypoops posted:

love to grownup adultedly shutdown justified outrage and horror at our cancerous tumored poisonous elite by children babies who think fast food efficient industrialised child torture and rape is maybe a not good thing and maybe should not be happening and or stopped

Using a csa survivor to excuse the inaction is heinous part, to me. As a survivor of csa, that poo poo can be more triggering than any joke.

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

gh0stpinballa posted:

the octopus?

It was Danny Casolaro's term for the cabal or at least the arms of it he was investigating.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/genesis-jeffrey-epstein-bill-clinton-relationship/261455/

https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2017/may/16/FBI-promis-part-1/

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007
I don't think anyone has posted the ESL conspiracy video here yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK2rzyqtqPw

Farm Frenzy posted:

sorry it took five seconds to find out that this guy is a terf crank

It's possible to be a terf and anti-pedo. Improbable, yes, it's pretty much always the opposite, but not impossible.

If you look into the PIE from the 60s/70s one of their major goals was normalization and if I had to guess embedding with academics and starting with theory before moving into open practice was part of their strategy. Normalization would likely help rapists who aren't in the cabal significantly more than those who are, so it stands to reason that it has support that isn't entirely within the cabal.

Perry Mason Jar posted:

Edit: As a corollary I strongly suggest not considering the elite a monolith.

Basically this.

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

weird! probably a coincidence, people disappear without a trace all the time

He dead :rip:

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

Christoph posted:

Yeah we're all standing by for that one but it seems to not be forthcoming.

They were probably talking about alexander cockburn.

Ace of Baes posted:

really good listen, no comedy just straight up facts on the cabal

A great follow up to this would be Webb's 3 appearances on Around the Empire:

http://aroundtheempire.com/category/podcast/

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

Suplex Liberace posted:

woah more of this story please

https://www.mintpressnews.com/genesis-jeffrey-epstein-bill-clinton-relationship/261455/

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

StashAugustine posted:

Is there evidence he was actually a pedo or just had a dumb take about that case

It's two cases (at least) and anyone who goes that hard in the paint to defend pedophilia is fuckin sus

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

gh0stpinballa posted:

either way epstein and mr X get friendly, maybe epstein shows his knack for numbers and an ability to compartmentalize. maybe he actually was some kind of near-genius, and they were happy to bring him on board because of whatever mathematical or scientific insights he had into whatever stock scams or mad scientist poo poo they're into.


There are like straight quotes from puff pieces about epstein that say people recommended him to their friends for financial poo poo because he had no moral compass. He was willing to do shady poo poo and outright financial crimes for his clients and with the backing of the deep state to keep himself out of trouble and with the added bonus that he had no real independent source of power to wield against the cabal, it's not hard to figure out why he was useful enough to join their club.

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

jarofpiss posted:

obviously this all comes back to the cia/deep state but do we have a goal thesis these orgs operate with other than the protection of capital? like i have no problem understanding that rich people will literally rape and murder children to drink their blood in blasphemous rituals, and i have no problem understanding that the cia will traffic children for them to gain funding/leverage/etc, but i am kind of having a hard time understanding what the point of it all is? like national security isn’t a real answer to this even if that’s what the cia mandate claims to be

is the defense of capital in service of rich people being able to pursue their deranged impulses with impunity? or are the deranged impulses an inevitable consequence of the accumulation of wealth?

it all seems like a circular ecosystem and im having a hard time understanding what the point is

Money is humanity's attempt to make the intangible concept of power tangible. Every scrap of currency is a piece of the godhead and whoever assembles them all makes himself equivalent to god.

These people worship power and pursue it with as much zeal as any conventional religious zealot. Relentless accumulation of wealth and personal power is a deranged impulse.

That's why despite the class solidarity we've seen them show they're still willing to kill their own should they become compromised... or should the opportunity just arise, because they all recognize that same deranged impulse within the other members of their club and when you have that impulse it's a given that you'd tear anyone else's heart out if it means consolidating and absorbing some of their power.

The feds have seized Epstein's assets, correct? Wonder how those are being split up.

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/8/28/headlines/ag_william_barr_planning_to_throw_30_000_party_at_trump_intl_hotel

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

A warning not to wear open toe shoes

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

comedyblissoption posted:

it is ~100% guaranteed that people higher than ito knew about the epstein situation considering staff literally resigned over it in public protest and it was basically an open secret at mit according to that article

Remember the guy who said he'd still take epstein's money today at that conference thing a few days ago? The one who said he was on a first name basis with 80% of the world's billionaires?

This is his older brother: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Negroponte

EDIT: it might look like I'm being too flippant/dismissive just calling him "that guy" - negroponte is the founding director of the media lab

Regulus74 has issued a correction as of 03:54 on Sep 8, 2019

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

comedyblissoption posted:

lol is an msnbc anchor's brain crack pinging

lmao dude she's playing coy, says right in her profile that she worked for deutsche bank which is more than likely the bank epstein used to launder money (at least from 2013 through 2018), it makes tons of sense

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007
lmao if you think epstein even gets arrested if hillary were president, Julie K. Brown probably would have been suicided last October

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

power botton posted:

How is someone who won the popular vote not likable and charismatic?

Yeah, I mean how is the kind of charisma that inspires poo poo like this not universally lauded as a great and benevolent thing?

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

Helsing posted:

I see that the cosmic showrunner for this season of Hellworld decided to include an allusion to Lovecraft, probably in an attempt to lampshade how cliched this is getting.

Every time I see Red Hook come up my eyes threaten to roll out of my skull for how on the nose it is.

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007
Weird mike's eyes are so close set that they gently caress up his depth perception so he thinks children are just adults that are far away, it's an honest mistake imho

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007
The satanic part was absolutely played up to downplay the abuse and torture aspects of most of those cases.

EDIT: VVVVVVV You're not going to break my faith in the utter cynicism of the rich and powerful

Regulus74 has issued a correction as of 09:30 on Sep 11, 2019

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

Hatebag posted:

Seems to me it was kids being raped by cia-connected pedophiles who subsequently brainwashed their victims using mkultra techniques to make the victims say things that would discredit their stories.

Me too

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

Hatebag posted:

Seems to me it was kids being raped by cia-connected pedophiles who subsequently brainwashed their victims using mkultra techniques to make the victims say things that would discredit their stories.

I largely agree although I suspect ace of baes isn't too far off in that a ton of them probably got murdered too.

EDIT: loving double post

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

Darth Walrus posted:

One really brain-breaking thing is that the most complete and detailed written transcript of this documentary is on the website of the Alamo Christian Foundation, a fundamentalist paedophile cult.

They want the hearing impaired members of the congregation to be able to access the jack off materials too.

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

Helsing posted:

Any source can have potentially useful or interesting information but before promoting someone like that maybe you should mention the Militia of Montana who DeCamp prominently represented as a lawyer and check out his career as a conservative libertarian leaning legislator and political opportunist.

A lot of what DeCamp writes lines up with everything the victims said, you can check out Conspiracy of Silence to verify. There's also a more recent book that covers the case from a guy who has written with David McGowan before if DeCamp skeeves you out too much.

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Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:

Mind you, I'm only halfway through The Franklin Scandal, but looking at DeCamp's book in terms of being a psyop or disinfo -- it's hard for me to think of a way it'd be beneficial as either? It doesn't seem to paint a pretty picture of any current power structure.

The only angle I can think of is that he could have played up the satanic aspects to make the entire case less believable.

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