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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

a few DRUNK BONERS posted:

there are tens of thousands of them, and the FBI likes high profile targets, not some random chan poster

at best maybe they would refer it to some local pd

Apart from anything else, the burnout rate for police specialists in child sex crimes is hideously high. Just going through a few 8chan threads would probably cost you, like, half a dozen people.

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Ruggan posted:

how are so many people into it? I just can’t wrap my head around how there are so many goddamn people that find anything in it that appeals to them? it’s alien to me and it makes me scared for my own kids

My guess is that paedophilia is severely underreported (if only because no duh of course it would be - being gay is really underreported, and that's harmless, not like wanting to gently caress children), and the empathy-stripping effect of being rich in a capitalist system wears away paedophiles' moral objections to acting on their desires. End result, you get way more rich child rapists than you might reasonably expect.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

There aren't that many actual clinical pedophiles and most of them are caught fairly fast because they're relatively poor and don't have institutional protection.

So the only clinical paedophiles out there are the ones that a capitalist criminal justice system can easily detect and arrest without consequence? Really? You buy that?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
https://twitter.com/coldcasepat/status/1159481022406365185?s=21

Lol, a bunch of Qultists' heads are exploding right now.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Remind me, which prime ministers were in Epstein's book?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Eh, from looking around, it's probably Barak. He kept showing up at Epstein's creepy sex dungeons, whereas Blair just seems to have been a high society acquaintance.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Willie Tomg posted:

its truly bliss



That statue isn't nearly young enough.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

AnEdgelord posted:

Kinda surprised we don't have any big names from the Bush admin roped into this

Maybe they had a different paedophile network? This one seems to have been mostly for centrists. Not seeing too many far-right names involved - even Trump was hanging with the Democrats at the time.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
I mean, you don't even have to assume he was murdered for this to stink to high heaven. The very fact that he could commit suicide (if he did) is a sign that someone didn't want the trial to go ahead. Just leaving him with his belt, his shoelaces, and a few words of advice about what awaited him in federal prison would have been enough to get the job done.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Taintrunner posted:

under stalinism, nobody would be allowed to amass so much wealth they could build a massive rape temple on a private island and filled it with child sized mattresses

just, putting that out there.

Wanna try telling Beria that?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Mirthless posted:

I'd love to believe that the FBI will thoroughly investigate and monitor the guards at the prison to see which ones suddenly have a substantial increase in quality of life and financial security, but I get the feeling this is all going to get swept neatly under the rug

I swear to god if there's a major disaster this weekend I am going to never disbelieve another conspiracy theorist ever again

was the moon landing faked too???

lol, you know those guards are going to commit suicide too.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Guy's a far-right nutbar. I wouldn't be surprised, but I would prefer to hear it from an actual journalist first.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

pathetic little tramp posted:

people say there's no way to kill yourself in a suicide watch room but that's patently untrue, they have hard walls in there, you can just do this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWdXPiEEApI

Where would he get the hot sauce, though?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Real hurthling! posted:

imagine being the real lawyer sitting in a chair in the corner doing work while the 16yo sex lawyer is giving ep his weiner massage on the conference table

Pretty sure they were all sex lawyers.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
9-South's cameras are not pointed at the cells.

Gotta say, though Colin Kaepernick had better be real careful at his next match.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Lol, they totally picked that suicide method so they could blame OITNB for suicidal ideation, didn't they?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Ashheap Empire posted:

I've got an Epstein brain theory that OITNB suicide method because they read cases about bodies being found like that in prison. All those cases are actually murders written off as suicides because no one wanted to be bothered to do a real investigation and of course that poo poo wouldn't work.

Eh, it's shown in the show to be something that would never actually stand a chance of working, so unless they were being really sly, I doubt they were modelling it on any successful/'successful' suicide stories.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
So, I'm not intimately familiar with the Sandra Bland story. What is it that makes folks say she was murdered rather than 'just' heavily encouraged to commit suicide?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

that's a d&d emptyquote of someone who turned out to be a hardcore pedophile apologist

Kind of surprised he's not more mad that the state had one killed, then.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

ymgve posted:

why would epsteins family care about whether he suicided or was killed

either they hate his guts and are like "good riddance either way" or they were complicit and if so i would have assumed they got passed a note with "yeah we killed him. keep your mouth shut."

They may want to know which of the hundreds of potential murderers it was who actually did the deed.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Have we talked about Roberto Grant ITT? Prisoner gets beaten to death in the MCC in 2015, and the guards try to pretend he suicides with a drug overdose.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Do remember that we have ample evidence from the past century that the CIA is spectacularly incompetent. Generally best not to assume that they pulled off any particularly complex operation unless you have very solid evidence.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

jarofpiss posted:

if they were c0mpetent we wouldnt have caught the ol body switcheroo

Even the act of physically carrying out a body switcheroo seems a bit above their standard competence level. If the CIA had done it, you'd expect reports from across the city of weird suited dudes showing up at morgues to ask pointed questions about corpses a few days beforehand, or everyone in the MCC to have seen them dragging, like, six different bodies into 9-South, none of which look remotely like Epstein. A photo of the corpse looking slightly different from how the guy did when he was alive doesn't even register as the sort of proper CIA fuckup you'd get from an operation that complex and elaborate.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Aren't Celona and the Post the main folks pushing that Epstein was murdered? Where does that fit into all of this?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Incidentally, was Q always a Bible reference?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

sleeptalker posted:

It makes some sense to take a passenger flight instead if you're paranoid about being shot down in a private jet.

How many fugitive sex traffickers died in 9/11, I wonder?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

ok but in real life there's no Balrog

Isn't this whole thread about the hidden, murderous demons you find when you dig too deep into the true nature of the world?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
It's actually a little creepy how hard information about the Franklin scandal is to gather through Google.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

dream9!bed!! posted:

Ames and taibbi write good poo poo, who gives a gently caress what they're like in real life

You're asking this in the Epstein thread?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:

It's gonna be hilarious when the body disappears too.

That might be tricky. His brother has the body, and the Epstein estate's lawyers seem to be trying to prove that their client was murdered.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

gh0stpinballa posted:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/28/prince-andrews-supporters-say-photo-epstein-victim-fake/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


inclined to agree that the lack of effort and the press acting as stenographers for this obvious bullshit anyway is deliberate

The Telegraph was never much of a newspaper, but they're pure, naked state propaganda now. One of their former columnists is the current prime minister.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Bulgakov posted:

have you read killing hope because that's a straight classic for priming outrage about attempted american interventions abroad

I was never as much of a fan of Killing Hope as everyone else, mainly because I started with the Gulf War chapter and ran smack bang into his hilariously inaccurate potted history of Kuwait. Made me real dubious of the quality of the rest of his research.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Dr. Killjoy posted:

hey look The Cabal want to bring about the return of the Great Old Ones, whereas good Christian families only want to ensure Jesus has a bountiful harvest ready for Him upon His return, totally different things

Charles Stross wrote a whole novel about this.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Perry Mason Jar posted:

Consolation prize

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlz3-OzcExI

Edit: Gaddafi was sodomized to death with a bayonet.

I mean, the guy brought in the CIA to torture his political opponents to death. Live by the bayonet-rape, die by the bayonet-rape, I guess.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Perry Mason Jar posted:

HRW... Lol. I have to look into it to make any better statement but the article seems confused about Gaddafi's role and apparent benefit:

The article is from 2012. Gaddafi's torture victims had high station because he wasn't running the country (or alive) any more.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

Don't forget Boys Town! :v:

One really brain-breaking thing is that the most complete and detailed written transcript of this documentary is on the website of the Alamo Christian Foundation, a fundamentalist paedophile cult.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

gh0stpinballa posted:

re the idea that the existence of this network is a conspiracy theory - there was a time when the idea of a secret society with an occult initiation ritual that required its members to perform a sacrifice to be eligible to join, had infiltrated the state, worked closely with neofascist paramilitary groups, the CIA and masonic lodges, and was deployed by the government to murder leftists and commit terror bombings to frame the communist movement, and was laundering its criminal profits through the vatican bank, was also laughed at by all the nice sensible people, and then it turned out the sicilian mafia was actually real.

basically i have no doubt the cabal will be exposed, but it might not be for another 50 years.

Not the best example, since Mussolini went on a very public campaign against the Mafia well before it achieved that kind of influence (which, funnily enough, did a lot to boost their power in America as mafiosi fled the fascists). Their existence and growth as political power-players were quite well-known despite their attempts at secrecy - it was just the precise extent of their influence that was sometimes mysterious.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Plutonis posted:

Turns out Russiagate was specifically designed for the Epstein buddies to deflect accusations and blame lmfao

No, MI6 is literally saying that a member of the royal family is a threat to national security due to credible blackmail evidence against him. They're escalating, not circling the wagons.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

gh0stpinballa posted:

it's not every day MI5/6 brief against one of our beloved royals, you'd have to go back to diana to find something similar. i'm assuming this is a veiled threat - not so much "the russians have blackmail material" but rather "WE have blackmail poo poo too". wonder what they're after, or if they're gearing up to disgrace him so his death by yacht propeller won't be as heartbreaking for the commemorative plate gang.

I think they genuinely want him gone, and are giving him the option of just peacefully fading into quiet obscurity where he can gently caress as many kids as he wants so long as he doesn't go anywhere near anyone important. If he doesn't do that, though, they may be prepared to escalate.

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Someone definitely took the important info about how the satanic panic was overblown morality crusade nonsense from those posts and isn't mad about two sentences

Mind you, most of the people who proved that the Satanic Panic was overblown nonsense, like the FMSF, start looking really sketchy under even a cursory inspection.

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