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Oct 31, 2012
Welp, shinju no Nectar turned out about as well as I had anticipated. Shame because despite the fetish factor it's honestly a good story, not without flaws but certainly something that stands above the the majority of the genre.

Nathilus posted:

Since I'm making such a big show of not giving a gently caress, let's say Isekai-adjacent stuff is fine here too. Dungeon Meshi and Goblin Slayer and all that sort of thing. It's fine, no skin off my rear end! If it has people adventuring around in fantasy worlds, it's close enough for me if I squint. A lot of Isekais aren't very isekaiey in the first place.
I wish fantasy wasn't the default. It's not like Sci-fi hasn't been used in the past like in Noeinn, Now and Then Here and There, or Digimon. But science fiction and "other worlds" seems to occupy the VRRMO niche and the scattered few stories that use science at all go the Mecha + Magic route of science fantasy.

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Oct 31, 2012
Like, stargate exists but when Japan tried to copy that we got GATE and that trainwreck is still smoldering. Sliders is a thing and I know people would love to jump on an episodic story about going to different places because Kino's Journey was so well received. I guess technically Star Trek in most of it's incarnations count as going to different worlds so long as isekai doesn't exclusively refer to alternate universes and even then Star Trek has that covered.

Just build a space ship or hop on a transporter pad and have fun with phazers, Beam Swords, and Orks instead of Bows, Short Swords, and Orcs. :shrug:


DisDisDis posted:

Is that the name of the adult breastfeeding isekai I heard people were talking about an adult breastfeeding isekai and those words in that order made me laugh so hard I almost got out of bed today
There is in fact an adult breastfeeding isekai wherein the main character is summoned to another world, after much tragedy becomes Char, and in order to unlock his latent superpowers he must partake in the bosoms of an assortment of characters. Yes it's by the Seikon no Qwaser guys, how did you know?

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Oct 31, 2012

Wark Say posted:

Doesn't/Didn't Drifters deal(t) with that part of making ammunition/gunpowder? I remember good-ol' Nobunaga being all gung-ho about firearms.

Making black powder is a major objective for him and procuring sulfur in addition to corpses is basically something he's always looking out for. Once he gets those it's just a matter of keeping people out of the area and mass producing guns with the recently liberated dwarves.

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Oct 31, 2012
Since pervy stuff is now kosher The World of Moral Reversal is an infrequent but interesting isekai. A highschool girl by the name of Ichikawa swaps bodies with her parallel reality counterpart in a world where gender roles have been switched which leads to some interesting scenarios as she comes to terms with the new place she's living. Unfortunately for her, her friends have now turned into the equivalent of horndog highschool boys and she is the straight man of the trio just trying to not get drawn into their conversations about porn mags and how to get boys to pay attention to them.

Some difference in the world are

Action movies are much different since the framing and direction account for a different gaze.


Victoria's Secret is now Victor's Secret

Ichikawa comes to a shocking revelation in a world where morals have been reversed


But she discovers a love for deep sea fishing since it removes her from her horny friends and the general weirdness of some things.

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Oct 31, 2012
Elves and assorted fantasy creatures continue to not be able to lose weight. This time shenanigans at a hot yoga class.

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Oct 31, 2012

Captain Invictus posted:

this is powerful potential reader repellent

What was with that last sentence? :stare:

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Oct 31, 2012

Fellis posted:

Is that the one where the guy who seemingly has no powers actually has the strongest power or is that another whole class isekai where students immediately use a power imbalance for rape and murder

I think that's dungeon seeker you're thinking of. This series looks like the main characters "power" is having subordinates although the first few are missing from Mangadex so I'm just looking at the more recent ones.

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Oct 31, 2012
Oh hey, new Shinju no Nectar Featuring enough full frontal nudity to honestly make me roll my eyes.
I am wary of pulling the Grey Enfield card here, no accounting for which of these upper class students have actually met the real deal through their families plus his disguise amounts to dying his hair and putting on a mask. Plus if they ask for any combat demonstrations Kai is up a creek because sucks.

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Oct 31, 2012

khy posted:

The protagonist of "Instant Death" doesn't even need sight. He does it through sensing hostility through slaves at one point.

What happened after was admittedly a neat scene. Killing a person who can create clones of herself that are distinct enough to be considered a separate entity by tracing back to the prime body and not any of the remote ones. Dude is absolutely broken and the reveal that he's some literal unnamed god is going to keep me reading this a few more chapters.

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Oct 31, 2012

Clarste posted:

His power is very specifically designed to be absolutely unbeatable with no weaknesses whatsoever, almost like an intellectual exercise.

It was my personal road to realizing just how broken he is that made it a fun exercise in-and-of-itself. He starts off just killing stuff regardless of level. Cool. Then he kills specific parts of a person which renders it completely unusable even if a new organ or appendage is regenerated. Then it went to him killing the undead because in his own words "I consider anything moving to be alive" so he just wastes zombies. Then he tracks down a guy through the empathic bond he has running through all the people under the influence of his domination ability, which makes sense killing intent has been the consistent trigger for the MC to notice people. But it was when someone who knew about the network and created a completely contained one shows up, uses an attack that doesn't have any intent in it, and is just testing the MC's limits itself. Only for their actual original body to die when the standalone network is killed. That's when I understood how absolute his ability is and how boned all these sages are.

Robo-dude was right. MC is simply too dangerous to be brought back to anyone's world much less his own.

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Oct 31, 2012

Onmi posted:

So now I ask the question to you all.

Is Planet of the Apes an Isekai story? Is Final Fantasy X an Isekai story or a fake-out Isekai story?

If the series uses time travel like in Noein, it's Isekai since alternate timelines and parallel realities are "different worlds" by definition. So depending on how they've explained how all the Planet of the Apes movies, whether they are all on the same timeline or if there are parallel timelines that can be isekai.

If it's a single timeline but the 2nd time period the characters travel to it from their home timeline and the story treats it as a fish out of water scenario and has major cultural/social/and technological differences, it's touching on some key aspects of isekai so I treat them as such. This is your 'Now and Then, Here and There', This is your 'Inuyasha', and yes this would be FFX.

I'd need more examples of time travel in anime though, outside of some smaller time loops it's not something I see a lot of to be honest, at least not in recent anime due to how sci-fi has more or less died off and Fantasy is caught up in video game mechanics. I think Re: Zero is the last series I can think of that uses time travel and that's just groundhog day loops.

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Oct 31, 2012

Nathilus posted:

It may be physically present but it's ontologically completely different than the rest of the world, as a place that has been summoned into existence. It isn't actually reality in the same way spira is.

It's been maybe a decade, but isn't Zanarkrad a dream or is Titus just a dream? I know the plot dips into some lovecraftian stuff with Sin and all that somewhere down the line.

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Oct 31, 2012
If going to another world is the focus of the story, I consider it an Isekai. Sci-fi gets funky as there are more casual means of going between actual planets than in most fantasy setups. But stories like Cowboy Bebop aren't isekai, but John Carter goes to mars is an Isekai.

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Oct 31, 2012
The Time Machine is an isekai
A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court is an isekai
Stargate is an Isekai

I'll call anything western Isekai if it suits my purposes. :colbert:

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Oct 31, 2012

RareAcumen posted:

The Matrix... Hmmm, well... Hmm, I'll call that one an Isekai too.
Tron was the movie you were looking for.

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Oct 31, 2012

RareAcumen posted:

The beginning of Kingdom Hearts 2 is an isekai.

Now you're doing it on purpose.

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Oct 31, 2012

khy posted:

But what are each of our crazy cheat powers

The ability to passively view other worlds and the actions of other isekai'd individuals from a semi-omniscient perspective. The visions are fragmented and appear in varying degrees of regularity although occasionally some just stop occurring completely.

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Oct 31, 2012
Speaking of horny isekai, Shinju no Nectar got a chapter and despite being 90% focused on the plot this chapter the last 3 pages let me know these guys cannot contain their desire to draw lewd women at every turn.

I'd say given how The World of Moral Reversal has now officially made the plot of the doujins canon it's on the list now too.

A series I keep up with out of curiosity is Game of Familia. I think the premise is interesting but it's execution is about the same as the rest. The story is about a teen and his step-mother and step siblings being summoned to a world to help fight an undead scourge. What makes him an interesting figure to follow is that by rearing he's a con artist; his father was a guy who married wealthy women for their money and then stole it and moved on to the next mark. He died before being able to divorce his current "family" leaving his son who genuinely does care for them behind. But he's able to leverage all the knowledge his father taught him about getting into a womans heart and skirt to protect his family. So far he's managed to bed the queen of a neighboring kingdom from the country he was summoned too in order to get aid. And also the fiance of a lizardman kingdoms prince to ensure his own survival in their land. So basically the story is about a guy making kings into cucks. And he's exclusively used other unsavory tactics while keeping his family in the dark to help them out.

If that sounds mildly interesting I cut out all the jank and crap. The world operates on the idea that classes are a thing so of course he becomes the most powerful multi-classing mage out there for arbitrary reasons. The undead abominations have decided that instead of killing everyone as is generally the case, they have a very specific mandate to rape any and all women they come across even if it's in the middle of battle. I know some of them are walking boners but that's retarded. And befitting any superpowered story where the rogue gallery of the protaganist reflects his powers. So of course besides the rapist undead people in power want to plow his family for offspring because being an offworlder grants them special status and powers above the normal folks. So it's still a trashy isekai but I'm more than a little curious to see where it's headed.

edit: also forgot that his step-mom found out he was banging the neighboring queen and for no reason muses about how she wants a piece of her step son. The guy she's been treating as a member of her family with no romantic interest up until that chapter. So thanks for that one Japan.

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Oct 31, 2012
If you find it let me know because I get the arguments for why most MC's don't want to go home, but honestly it sucks that the entire genre has doubled down on the escapist aspect of permanent residency in a world where you are the second coming.

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Oct 31, 2012
So what if some guy winds up getting sucked into a slasher horror movie? But he's now been genderbent and put into the body of the college campus' floozy and must find ways to survive the intended fate of his character while clinging to the chick who is supposed to be the sole survivor?
There's an Isekai for that now

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Oct 31, 2012

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Is this the one where the isekai transportation device is getting thrown out a window, and every time the dude comes back to the real world he's more and more injured to the point where he's literally in a Johnny Got His Gun situation but somehow gets thrown out a window yet again?

Because that plot device deserves a better isekai to be a part of.

I think Lynn is a hack writer with a piss fetish but I'd be lying if that still wasn't a neat concept anchored to a bad story.

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Oct 31, 2012

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

is it really just him, though? like, the weird piss stuff that crops up in Okamoto's work honestly seems to just generally be a thing with edgy anime/manga/LNs and i'm not sure it's supposed to be fetishy so much as a shock value/"realism" thing

e: i will definitely say that Lynn Okamoto's work rides one hundred percent on shock value so it being intended to be insanely gross rather than sexy would be on-brand
There is a difference between having a scene where after a monster rips a guy in hald, the closest person (usually a girl) pees them self out of fear. And Lynn making a series where one character needed to wear diapers, and his current series has women upon touch leaking body fluids of all types and being walking yogurt dispensers from their vaginas.

That man has an unfortunate passion.

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Oct 31, 2012

Paracelsus posted:

There's a 5-story anthology being put out on a daily basis this week about would-be villainesses. Kinda predictable, but the stories thus far have managed to put smiles on my face.

Not sure how this is Isekai, but hey. This has convinced me that one day I should play an Otome game just to see why subverting this idea villainess being a bad person has gotten so popular.

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Oct 31, 2012

Clarste posted:

My understanding is that Villainess stories are about as far removed from actual otome games as other Isekai stories are from actual fantasy settings. They're all making fun of some weird tropes that were never actually popular until everyone started copying them in isekai parodies.

I could guess as much, I'd imagine more of what the 2nd story in that anthology shows which is the heroine having been courted by 4 or 5 suitors (including her math teacher because why not) and there being a minor or major antagonist character providing drama hooks which is what this villainess archetype is being drawn from. Really I'm just curious because I don't really play dating sims but I could see myself digging a victorian era one if I ever find the time. Were these stories about some side character in a Higurashi-style horror VN I'd be right back to try and polish off that back catalog of reading.

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Oct 31, 2012
George Washington is the best isekai protagonist because his ally it the strongest Goddess of them all. America :patriot:
And supported by the immovable monk Benjamin Franklin and master swordsman John Adams.

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Oct 31, 2012
A new chapter chapter of Shinju no Nectar continues the slow built of the setting and adds an interesting wrinkle to what was a pretty obvious mystery until now.

So Arlen and Rubian aren't God's native to Albion, but instead what I'm assuming is the analogue to Denmark in this setting through. Yet the most prestigious military academy for men and women in Albion is named after both of these Gods, even after they attacked the native land of Arlen/Rubian and even made explicit moves to destroying places of worship? And there's a cult mostly populated by women who worship Arlen which is ironic given that the history of this world states that Rubian rejected the advances of her male counterpart.
This continues to be a surprisingly substantial story even though there's still half a chapter dedicated to getting as many tits out as possible. Including this month's chapter which has...one way to avoid detection when you're sneaking into a hedonistic cult's lair during the group orgy. I'll give the writing duo this, they find a way to make it make sense 80% of the time.

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Oct 31, 2012

Argas posted:

Isn't it just Ireland

Well if I didn't have Vinland Saga on the brains and bothered to look it up. Yes, I would have realized that Erin is the old nam for Ireland.

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Oct 31, 2012

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

https://mangadex.org/title/36197/makenshi-no-maken-niyoru-maken-no-tame-no-harem-life

Dude gets iseaki'd as usual but brings his ancestral swords with him into the new world. One of the swords transmogrifies into a big titty lady who the MC promptly fucks
Got to hand it to the author, it's a bold move to remind me of the far superior John Carter isekai series and then immediately jumping to watching a bandit rape a corpse. I hate this trash genre some times.

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Any other stories about a dude who wants to gently caress swords? Or other psuedo-inanimate objects?
Within the context of an Isekai? Or just in general because japan does love it's stories about weapon people/Tsukumogami.

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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Either will do, I guess

poo poo, I realize you specifically asked for guys who want to gently caress their weaponfu and that's not the list I was generating in my head. I was just picking any series that had weapons turned humans. But Tsugumomo has an isekai arc and there's a lot of sexual tension between the MC and his increasing harem of tsukumogami. Entire series is softcore porn, and lots of fanservice. And I mean a lot of fanservice, the writer is on record stating he wants to lewd every single female character in his series. So that should count. some objectionable stuff like a 1000yo loli so just putting that up front.

There is Nukenai Seiken-chan Which is about a guy who is traveling around with the holy sword Excalibur Excelia who can turn into a human. however he hasn't managed to pull her from the pedestal she resides within, and this pedestal also correlates to her panties. I never made it past the first chapter because Excelia is a little girl in appearance and that's all I needed to see to write off the whole thing. I really can't win with these types of series :eng99: Apparently other swords show up later on.

For the non fucky ones There's series like Soul Eater and Elemental Gelade. Revolutionary Girl Utena kind of counts and there's a couple I've lost to memory, but one was about a guy who finds an antique shop that's connected to a reality where the souls of objects reside. I'll try and find the name because it was interesting.

Edit: Valkyrie Drive is a thing. I haven't watched it but it's chicks dating gun girls.

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Oct 31, 2012
Hirano managed to fart out 10 pages of Drifters. I wish there was more to say about them than that.

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Oct 31, 2012
It's an already tired cliche that The !Catholic Church is evil as poo poo in fiction Right up there with slaves defaulting to cosplay-tier furries in manga.

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Oct 31, 2012

Nathilus posted:

I mean, the catholic church is real actually evil. So its just standard tier magical realism~

I'm talking about the cartoonish levels of evil that is commonly and frequently depicted in the kind of stories that we're ragging on which seems largely rooted in how things played out a couple centuries ago. It's become a tired cliche for the church in any and most media to be corrupt and in enough power to replicate actual witch trials and crusades against whatever group the story wants to dunk on. And don't tell me it's not lazy either.

I'm still miffed that the netflix Castlevania series Completely overplayed Lisa's death and introduced a bishop character who is so clearly and unironically evil that my eyes nearly rolled out of their socket. Lisa's death was never portrayed as anything other than collateral damage thanks to once again, real life events, but from what I understand one of the writers has a habit of playing the churches actions up in this way and it wound up adding to the list of dumb things that series did with the narrative.

Like I'm not Catholic but it's been in too much stuff not to get tired of it.

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Gonna rag on his dark materials next?
It has quite literally been 20 years since I read any of those books and they weren't that memorable to me. But I guess the Amber Spyglass could have been better? Not like I remember much of the plot besides the macguffins and daemons. :shrug:

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Oct 31, 2012

Jackard posted:

What, the grand narrative of Castlevania III for the NES?

They cobble together like 4 games when you take a step back. Lisa's story comes from Symphony of the Night

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Oct 31, 2012
New Shinju no Nectar

Probably the only time in manga where calling your nephew your brother didn't mean something bad. But I had to stop on that initial statement regardless.

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Oct 31, 2012
Another month, another chapter of Shinju no Nectar. This does explain how someone who was 12 managed to earn a grudge this fierce. I also hope Kai calls Richard out on the whole "well you say you love this chick and are going to give up the throne for her, but you also didn't mind dying last night". I get that things are hosed for Richard but he's just looking for a way out.

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Oct 31, 2012

doomrider7 posted:

Can't for the life of me remember where I read the post, but apparently GATE ended and it was exactly as trashy and nationalistic as expected or something to that effect.
Wasted potential that series. I would have liked a sort of Stargate: Atlantis style series but the only good thing about Gate is the artist for the manga. Although I'll admit the story after 3 iterations toned down enough to be enjoyable where it's currently at. My biggest issues were mostly about how threats stop mattering once the Jay es dee ef show up with the rifles and tactical equipment.

I rather liked a recent manga chapter that had both the JSDF and the fantasy world folks routing out spies in their own ways. The story should have been more about that middle ground and level of cultural exchange. I don't really enjoy a curb stomp scenario.

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A very acute choice of words given what's currently happening in Shinju no Nectar.

And has anyone been reading FFF-Class Trashero? I recently started reading it and for the point I'm at, around chapter 16, it's one of the better series about an unsavory MC I've read. After being forced to save a fantasy world and living through 10 years of hardships and full on abuse from his party, the MC went postal right before the climactic battle with the demon demon king and slayed his own teammates. Even after, he wins the final showdown saving the world, but he gets time-looped to the beginning of it all by the same forces that ripped him from Earth and now has to do it all over again but this time he's got to be "nicer". What ensues is him gaming both his new overseers as well as the world he has a decade of knowledge about. It's edgy but the kind of light edge that doesn't turn me off. Manages to land it's humor as well like the MC's best instructor being a literal slime monster

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Oct 31, 2012

Revdomezehis posted:

There's only a few translated chapters out so far, but I do like the premise of " Is This Really A Different World? " for which, I'll just copy and paste the description from MangaDex since it was obviously written by someone who's seen too many isekai stories:


It's entertaining so far, and looking forward to seeing where they go with it, mainly because as the description from MangaDex points out, I am a bit sick of seeing isekai's where everyone has their minds blown thanks to the MC having incredibly surface level knowledge of some basic poo poo that they probably would've known already by this point of their civilizations.

I was expecting something more similar to Freeter, got a spaz trying desperately to live out the isekai dream instead. Much appreciated. Gentleman Oni is a great character.

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Oct 31, 2012

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Speaking of, the next chapter is up now and we're getting a plotline of some sort. And there's a great action bit where Vampire Dad takes out a golem drone by drifting his farm truck on a dirt road, which is enough to keep me reading.

Taking bets now Shadowy guy is another isekai'd human who is more successfully living out his delusions of power except he fell in with the "bad guys" who are probably chuuni themselves

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Oct 31, 2012
It's worse for the VRMMO sub-genre because I'm expected to believe that either beta testers or current players don't have ample enough documentation for in-game skills that nobody figured out you can max CON and be utterly invincible. And even still, once someone managed to actually do it there aren't immediately copycats doing the same for the benefits or a patch to remove that from the game?

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