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cokerpilot
Apr 23, 2010

Battle Brothers! Stop coming to meetings drunk and trying to adopt Tevery Best!

Lord General! Stop standing on the table and making up stupid operation names!

Emperor, why do I put up with these people?
The timing on this video....

Edit: Godamn it, the Last page has an update.

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achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
Gotta admit, this part of the game did teach me quite a bit about Alzheimer’s, the dread disease that killed two of my grandparents along with a lot of other people. If the statistics they give about it are right, I have chills.

Kaito is a better detective than many give him credit for being. He may even be better than Yagami.

cokerpilot
Apr 23, 2010

Battle Brothers! Stop coming to meetings drunk and trying to adopt Tevery Best!

Lord General! Stop standing on the table and making up stupid operation names!

Emperor, why do I put up with these people?

achtungnight posted:

Gotta admit, this part of the game did teach me quite a bit about Alzheimer’s, the dread disease that killed two of my grandparents along with a lot of other people. If the statistics they give about it are right, I have chills.

Kaito is a better detective than many give him credit for being. He may even be better than Yagami.

I think it's more that he is better at different things then Yagami. Yagami does a more thorough piece by piece logic-based problem-solving process and he is very good at it. This combined with an almost stubborn level of determination and focus means that as long as the pieces of the puzzle are there Yagami will probably figure it out given sufficient time to work on it. On the flip side, if the pieces of the puzzle aren't there he seems to sometimes flounder a bit and while he by no means slow in problem-solving skills Yagami has shown some vulnerability to be interrupted before he can finish putting the pieces together. Yagami's determination and focus can also backfire as well we have seen him sometimes stay on dead ends long than needed more than once trying to find the next part of a link that simply isn't there when he should have moved to approach the problem from another angle. We have also seen this manifest in him getting blindsided by unexpected angles both his mysteries and misadventures even when we should have been able to see it coming.

Kaito for all that he likes to play up being the dumb muscle maybe almost if not just as smart Yagami. That being said his brain clearly works in very different ways. Kaito tends to keep a broader picture in mind compared to Yagami's more narrowed focus. We see this play out with him noticing things before Yagami does as well how frequently knows when to show up to bail Yagami out of trouble or back him up. We also see this in the way that Kaito seems to sometimes make impressive intuitive leaps of logic from time to time. Also despite his fondness for simplicity, straight forward solutions and stubbornness that rivals Yagami he also seems far more willing to bend or adapt to new or changing situations. Kaito, however, doesn't always seem to realize the connections he as already made and sometimes even when he does he has trouble not trusting in his own judgments. He also seems to prefer to let other people do the thinking if possible and does better following then leading in chains of thought.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Shei-kun
Dec 2, 2011

Screw you, physics!
That's certainly an interesting angle to take with the dating path. Also, much less creepy than the first one. She's half your age, Yagami.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Slowflake
Aug 18, 2010

I didn't know they had BUDK in Kamurocho.

Next assassin they send is gonna come at us with this thing:

Thesaya
May 17, 2011

I am a Plant.
I'm glad they aren't presenting Okubo being innocent of Emi's murder as some big twist, at least so far. I mean, at least to me, it has been quite obviously foreshadowed the entire game. Yagami's reaction to it is understandable, but his belief isn't presented as being right, more as an unwillingness to get burnt again.

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
Okubo is voiced by Yuri Lowenthal.

Genda reminding Yagami what a defense lawyer does is another great game moment. He did his job, but bad stuff still happens. Hard to make it right.

And Cane Man. What to say about that guy? First time I fought him I wondered if he was the Mole, the killer we’re after. Then I realized it’d be a defiance of plot tropes to have our ultimate bad guy be someone out of nowhere. So is this another formidable jobber they pulled out to pad the boss fights? Looks like.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?



achtungnight posted:

And Cane Man. What to say about that guy? First time I fought him I wondered if he was the Mole, the killer we’re after. Then I realized it’d be a defiance of plot tropes to have our ultimate bad guy be someone out of nowhere. So is this another formidable jobber they pulled out to pad the boss fights? Looks like.

Cane Man, narratively, feels like he's around to ramp up the stakes; to say that Yagami's in really deep poo poo now. Of course, he's come too far to back down now, so Cane Man's just another obstacle.

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
Ichinose seems to think complaints to government boards and security guards will be enough to get rid of Yagami. He is so wrong. :)

A guy like Mashiko might seem out of place in a hospital security environment. Recall that this place deals with people who have serious mental problems though- yes, I know the game plays it down. If you've ever worked in the security industry, you wouldn't be surprised to see a guy like Mashiko in such a place. The big surprise is that he's in a leadership position. Kinda seems like a liability hazard and a lawsuit waiting to happen. Maybe things are different in Japan. Or in videogames where the beefy jerk with the shock baton is automatically the boss.

Surprising to see Yagami and Suguira able to hang out in the hospital garage all night. You'd think security would be on high alert for them. Surely they didn't take out the entire force in one fight!

I too have issues with Shono as a killer. He doesn't seem like boss material, let alone final boss. Maybe he was different three years ago when he actually committed murder? And now he's desperate to both atone for his actions back then and prove his drug is actually viable all along? I definitely would not want this sort of villain in charge of a more serious health crisis. I guess he can stay on the Alzheimer's issue, but for the coronavirus keep him off the front lines please!

Iceclaw
Nov 4, 2009

Fa la lanky down dilly, motherfuckers.

achtungnight posted:

Ichinose seems to think complaints to government boards and security guards will be enough to get rid of Yagami. He is so wrong. :)

A guy like Mashiko might seem out of place in a hospital security environment. Recall that this place deals with people who have serious mental problems though- yes, I know the game plays it down. If you've ever worked in the security industry, you wouldn't be surprised to see a guy like Mashiko in such a place. The big surprise is that he's in a leadership position. Kinda seems like a liability hazard and a lawsuit waiting to happen. Maybe things are different in Japan. Or in videogames where the beefy jerk with the shock baton is automatically the boss.

Surprising to see Yagami and Suguira able to hang out in the hospital garage all night. You'd think security would be on high alert for them. Surely they didn't take out the entire force in one fight!

I too have issues with Shono as a killer. He doesn't seem like boss material, let alone final boss. Maybe he was different three years ago when he actually committed murder? And now he's desperate to both atone for his actions back then and prove his drug is actually viable all along? I definitely would not want this sort of villain in charge of a more serious health crisis. I guess he can stay on the Alzheimer's issue, but for the coronavirus keep him off the front lines please!

Eh. At the very least in my socialist western europe country, orderlies abusing mental health patients and getting away with it has been a thing. Terrible, but but sadly when no-one will believe the victim, what else could happen? Re: Shono, I could see him panicking, and realising it's either his neck or Okubo's. Festering in abject fear and paranoia can do that to someone.

Back on track, I binged this LP for the last few days and it's good, man. On the other hand, I'm not sure what this little excursion was supposed to do, past exposing Yagami to being arrested for a laundry list of offences? They still have no proof or solid evidence, and Yagami even passed on a phenomenal chance to mess with Kido and Shono by saying the latter spillt the beans about everything. It probably would havethrown a monkey wrench in their dynamic something fierce.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
Thus begins the most obvious padding and most boring chapter of the main story. Hope you're up for it, Jobbo.

There are only two tough tailing missions in the game, IMO. This video covers one of them. If Chaos can do the second one without upgrades (seen it done in other LPs, so not impossible), he has my respect.

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!
holy lol Kaito when he catches up

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
Gotta love the running gag of how Kaito sucks at running.

Iceclaw
Nov 4, 2009

Fa la lanky down dilly, motherfuckers.
A running gag in every ways! :v:

cokerpilot
Apr 23, 2010

Battle Brothers! Stop coming to meetings drunk and trying to adopt Tevery Best!

Lord General! Stop standing on the table and making up stupid operation names!

Emperor, why do I put up with these people?
... This really wasn't the brightest move on our heroes parts was it?

Iceclaw
Nov 4, 2009

Fa la lanky down dilly, motherfuckers.
To be fair, running headlong into a potentially deadly situation is their modus operandi from the get go.

Shei-kun
Dec 2, 2011

Screw you, physics!
That ended about as well as I expected it to end.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

biosterous
Feb 23, 2013




When Matsugane spun the gun as distraction, so you didn't notice him work the slide a bunch of times to eject all the bullets. Very subtle!

:v:

Geemer
Nov 4, 2010



Matsugane's :ocelot: with a gun.

Shei-kun
Dec 2, 2011

Screw you, physics!
Now we know how Matsugane became the head of the family.

Magical bullet powers!

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Geemer
Nov 4, 2010



Finally a little bit of a confrontation with the Raincoat Killer. Weird how he didn't have his signature axe though.

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
This is probably the biggest plot dump video in the LP. I personally was surprised our arch villains just revealed themselves to their hired help like that. Guess they're overconfident in their being above their own immoral deeds. Hamura and Matsugane really shine in their exchanges throughout the episode- conflicting personalities with undertones of respect and shame. The subtitle lines for the Japanese track don't have quite the same impact- maybe that's just my American bias. And the end- quite an intimidating figure, our killer. Can hardly wait to see Yagami confront him.

One complaint- having Hamura reveal the killer's identity to us instead of having Yagami deduce it removes a bit of the detective atmosphere. Oh well.

Geemer
Nov 4, 2010



achtungnight posted:

One complaint- having Hamura reveal the killer's identity to us instead of having Yagami deduce it removes a bit of the detective atmosphere. Oh well.

On the other hand, with how much Yagami can be a dumbass at realizing even the most obvious things only when they're explicitly told to him, him figuring it out suddenly would be just as jarring.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
One major problem with getting a crooked cop’s confession on tape is that- in the USA at least, I don’t know about Japan- is that police are allowed to deceive suspects and hostile witnesses in an interview or interrogation setting to seek information. “He has some delusions that I am an insane psycho murderer. I played along with them hoping to learn what he knew about the killing spree.” Yagami is going to need a few more chapters of gameplay to get higher proof before he can arrest the killer, confession or not.

Iceclaw
Nov 4, 2009

Fa la lanky down dilly, motherfuckers.
That's assuming Yagami even has his phone, considering the whole arrest and all. Plus, you know, a crooked cop protected by some pretty high-up officials isn't going to get into trouble because of a third party volontering some pretty dubious evidence. "Ah, a recording, nice trick. Can you prove it is effectively the guy you're accusing that's talking? No? Didn't think so.'

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
This side case is my favorite in the game. Some complaints- you have to know about Onimichio to get the recurring in-jokes; you are as always given another chance if you pick the wrong suspect; I've always hated the hidden picture games that make you click on one precise yet unclear area to win. But these aside, this is the kind of drawing room mystery with surprise unexpected twists that get lots of people into the detective genre. It also has all the odd humor and good writing that is well-known in substories of this series. In a word, it's awesome. Thanks for showing it off, y'all.

And Jobbo, you are correct about Onomichio (and I'm sure mascots in general) being dangerous and shady. Trust me, when you get to Yakuza 6, you will find out just how much the image is true.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

cokerpilot
Apr 23, 2010

Battle Brothers! Stop coming to meetings drunk and trying to adopt Tevery Best!

Lord General! Stop standing on the table and making up stupid operation names!

Emperor, why do I put up with these people?
Probably one of most realistic potryals of Acupuncture I have seen in a game.

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
The acupuncture is hit or miss, honestly, and there are better ways to earn the rewards it gives you.

Koga is annoying, but not so much as that wig guy. Geez.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?


achtungnight posted:

The acupuncture is hit or miss, honestly, and there are better ways to earn the rewards it gives you.

Really I'm only doing it because I need to fill up Yagami's buddy list.

Edit: There was an episode here, but I forgot to edit out a pause.

ChaosArgate fucked around with this message at 23:43 on May 12, 2020

Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"

Sounds like you didn't edit out a pause at 8:07, and for the rest of the video the commentary's about a minute out of sync.

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ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Cloud Potato posted:

Sounds like you didn't edit out a pause at 8:07, and for the rest of the video the commentary's about a minute out of sync.

Son of a bitch. :argh:

I'll have a fixed version reuploaded as soon as possible.

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