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darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.
Better Late Then Never Edition

What is Promotion / Relegation?

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Wikipedia posted:
In sports leagues, promotion and relegation is a process where teams are transferred between two divisions based on their performance for the completed season.
The best-ranked teams in the lower division are promoted to the division above, and the worst-ranked teams in the higher division are relegated to the division below.
Tier A (the Tier Jerkers) is a keeper league. Tier B (the Trail of Tiers) is a redraft league. Sucks to be in Tier B.

Buyin: $20 (may be revised for the 2019 season)
Website: ESPN
Tiers: 2
# of teams per tier: 12
# of teams promoted each year: 3 winners of a 6 team playoff
# of teams relegated each year: 3 losers of a 4 team playoff
Each tier has a separate, but equal, payout
Roster: QB 2 RB 2 WR TE FLEX 1 DL 2 LB 2 DB DFLEX 7 BN IR
Scoring: 0.5 PPR, otherwise ESPN Standard

IDP Scoring
code:
	
Tackle Solo: 1
Tackle Assist: .5
Sack: 3
Interception: 4
Fumble Force: 3
Fumble Recovery: 3
Defensive Touchdown: 6
Safety: 6
Pass Defended: 1
Block Kick : 6
Tackles for Loss: 2
Payout
Each tier has a separate, but equal, payout
code:

1st place: $115
2nd place: $40
3rd place: $20
Highest points total each week of regular season: $5 (x13)

Keeper System
code:
	
A) Every keeper has a one round penalty.
B) Penalties that can't be enforced will transfer to the next highest keeper.
C) If a round is not available, a greater round will be used. If a greater round is not available, the first available lower round will be used and a penalty will be assessed for each round below the keeper's value.
D) All penalties must be enforced.
E) The following season, keeper value is based off the highest of the following: 1) The round drafted in the previous season or 2) their draft value last season prior to any transferred penalties.
F) Once a player hits free agency in any form, that player is no longer eligible to be kept the following season.
Example:
code:
	
2012 Draft:
1.) Drew Brees
2.) DeMarco Murray
4.) Percy Harvin
16.) Alfred Morris

2013:
1.) Brees (1st rounder)
 	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
2.) DeMarco (2nd rounder) 
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
3.) Harvin (4th rounder)
	-1 for keeping Harvin
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
13.) Morris (16th rounder)
 	-1 for keeping Morris
	-1 for keeping Brees
	-1 for keeping DeMarco

2014:
1.) Brees (1st rounder)
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
2.) DeMarco (1st rounder)
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can’t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
3.) Harvin (3rd rounder)
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Harvin
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can’t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
8.) Morris (13th rounder)
 	-1 for keeping Morris
	-1 for keeping Harvin
	-1 for keeping DeMarco
	-1 for keeping Brees
 	-1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)

2015: 
Can’t legally apply penalties to keep only Brees, DeMarco, Harvin, and Morris. 
One way to fix this is to let go one or more of the players. 
Another possibility is to keep 2014 20th round pick Johnny Manziel to absorb additional penalties.

2015:
1.) Brees (1st rounder)
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
2.) DeMarco (1st rounder)
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can’t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
3.) Harvin (2nd rounder)
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Harvin
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can’t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can’t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
	Can’t apply -1 for using a 3rd rounder on a 2nd round pick (Harvin)
4.) Morris (8th rounder)
 	-1 for keeping Morris
	-1 for keeping Harvin
	-1 for keeping DeMarco
	-1 for keeping Brees
	Can’t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
	Can’t apply -1 for using a 3rd rounder on a 2nd round pick (Harvin)
17.) Manziel (20th rounder)
	-1 for keeping Manziel
	-1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
	-1 for using a 3rd rounder on a 2nd rounder (Harvin)
Supplemental Draft
Every year at least three teams in Tier A will be disbanded. The players comprising their rosters will be put into one large player pool. Teams from Tier B will be promoted to take their place, and they will be able to select keepers from the player pool in a supplemental draft.

Any players selected in the supplemental draft will retain the same value they would have if they were kept by their previous owner. For example, if a relegated team drafted Andrew Luck in the 14th round, drafting Andrew Luck in the supplemental draft would let the new owner keep him in the 13th round (barring any other penalties).

Owners will have an unlimited number of picks in the supplemental draft, but their keepers must abide by the same keepers rules as the rest of the league. Once every owner opts out of the draft, and the commissioner determines that their keepers adhere to the league's keeper rules, the supplemental draft is over.

The supplemental draft will be in order of their finish in Tier B. The draft will snake.

Draft Order
The first year the draft order will be randomized. After that, the two tiers will follow the following draft order:

Tier A
1: 1st place Tier B
2: 2nd place Tier B
3: 3rd place Tier B
4: 9th place Tier A
5: 8th place Tier A
etc, etc

Tier B
Random


The draft will snake. Every attempt will be made to accommodate a live draft.

Trades
Trades will now process instantly. I'll obviously reserve the right to veto extreme attempts at collusion / cheating. We've got a good group of people here, so I doubt it'll ever come to that.

Trade deadline is the last week of the season.

Trade Draft Picks At Your Own Risk
Future draft picks can be traded in Tier A. However, keep in mind that the draft picks of a relegated team are valueless.

Furthermore, if you trade your own future draft pick to a team, your rights to that draft pick are forfeited (even if that team is then later relegated).

Ties
During the regular season, matchups can result in a tie. It's not very likely because we're using fractional points, but I've seen it happen before.

Overall record determines playoff seeding. Ties will be broken in the following order:
- Points For (season)
- Points Against (season)
- Coin flip

During the playoffs, ties will be broken in the following order:
- Points For (season)
- Points Against (season)
- Coin flip

Relegation Cannot Be Avoided
If someone in Tier A decides not to continue on next season for whatever reason, their roster will join the player pool for the supplemental draft and an additional team from Tier B will be promoted to take their place.

darkspider42 fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Jul 29, 2019

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darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.
Our fearless leader, Zypher, has decided to leave the Fantasy Football fold and has given over control of the league. This will be a crunch year since we don't have lots of time to prep so we'll need a roll call ASAP to confirm teams, replacements, payments and the supplemental draft.

History:

2018 GoonTier Champion: zeroordie
2017 GoonTier Champion: dewey7788
2016 GoonTier Champion: dewey7788
2015 GoonTier Champion: zeroordie
2014 GoonTier Champion: darkspider42
2013 GoonTier Champion: darkspider42

2018 thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3865947&pagenumber=1

Moving Up: Lock, Baser Instinct and Alfalfa
Moving down: Suave Fedora, Master Stur, and SouthShoreSamurai

Supplimental Draft:

code:
Name				Keeper Cost (2018 to 2019 cost built in)
Le'Veon Bell Pit, RB			1+1
Michael Thomas NO, WR			1+1
Leonard Fournette Jax, RB		1
Jerick McKinnon SF, RB			1
JuJu Smith-Schuster Pit, WR		2
Amari Cooper Dal, WR			2
Kenyan Drake Mia, RB			2
Allen Robinson Chi, WR			3
Golden Tate Phi, WR			3
Marvin Jones Jr. Det, WR		3
Jimmy Graham GB, TE			4
Corey Davis Ten, WR			4
Marlon Mack Ind, RB			5
Robert Woods LAR, WR			6
Ben Roethlisberger Pit, QB		8
Jordan Reed Wsh, TE			8
Reshad Jones Mia, S			9
Harrison Smith Min, S			10
Danielle Hunter Min, DE			11
Nick Chubb Cle, RB			11
Adrian Peterson, Wsh RB			12
Dion Lewis Ten, RB			13
Travis Kelce KC, TE			14
Tyrann Mathieu Hou, S			15
Courtland Sutton Den, WR		16
Carson Wentz Phi, QB			16
Devin Funchess Car, WR			17
Matt Ryan Atl, QB			18
James Conner Pit, RB			19
Dede Westbrook Jax, WR			19

darkspider42 fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Jul 29, 2019

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.
I think I have all the regulation and leagues correct, please chime in if this doesn't look right

Draft Order:

Tier A:
1. Lock (confirmed) - Paid
2. Baser instinct (confirmed) - Paid
3. Alfalfa (confirmed) - Paid
4. dewey7788 (confirmed)
5. Brownhat (confirmed) - Paid
6. Anubis (confirmed)
- Paid
7. Hot Diggity (confirmed)! - Paid
8. darkspider42 (confirmed) - Paid
9. von Metternich (confirmed) - Paid
10. Mikey Purp (confirmed) - Paid
11. jabro (confirmed)
12. zeroordie (confirmed)

Tier B (in no particular order):
1. Suave Fedora OUT OPEN
2. Tiny Tubesteak Tom (confirmed)
3. OPEN
4. Boywunda (confirmed)
5. Hiroprotagonist (confirmed)
6. Gobias Ind (confirmed)
7. dkj (confirmed)
8. Chen kenichi (confirmed) - Paid
9. Master Stur (confirmed)
10. 3 dong horse (confirmed)
11. Substandard
12. SouthShoreSamurai (confirmed)

darkspider42 fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Aug 18, 2019

Gobias Ind.
Apr 5, 2007

If your girlfriend says hey to me that's our girlfriend now idc
Hell yeah, back for more.

The first post says the Tier B draft order is done the same way as Tier A but then you indicate the Tier B list is in no particular order. Will it just be randomized?

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

Gobias Ind. posted:

Hell yeah, back for more.

The first post says the Tier B draft order is done the same way as Tier A but then you indicate the Tier B list is in no particular order. Will it just be randomized?

Sorry, should be random for Tier B draft. I've updated it.

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.
Keeper Choices with 2019 costs built in:

code:

Don't Get Regulated	
PLAYER	
David Johnson Ari, RB	1+1
Jarvis Landry Cle, WR	1
Lamar Miller Hou, RB	2
Emmanuel Sanders Den, WR	3
Tom Brady NE, QB	4
Luke Kuechly Car, LB	5
Tevin Coleman Atl, RB	6
Lavonte David TB, LB	7
Jack Doyle Ind, TE	8
Danny Trevathan Chi, LB	11
Jared Goff LAR, QB	12
DJ Moore Car, WR	14
Jordan Howard Chi, RB	15
	
Lights, Kamara, Action	
PLAYER	
T.Y. Hilton Ind, WR	1+1
Aaron Rodgers GB, QB	1
Evan Engram NYG, TE	4
Mark Ingram II NO, RB	6
Deshaun Watson Hou, QB	7
Blake Martinez GB, LB	8
Keanu Neal Atl, S	9
DeMarcus Lawrence Dal, DE	10
Jarrad Davis Det, LB	11
John Brown Bal, WR	12
James White NE, RB	13
Alvin Kamara NO, RB	16
Mike Williams LAC, WR	18
	
Everybody Panic!	
PLAYER	
A.J. Green Cin, WR	1+1
Joe Mixon Cin, RB	1
Derrick Henry Ten, RB	2
Brandin Cooks LAR, WR	3
J.J. Watt Hou, DE	4
Zach Ertz Phi, TE	5
Stefon Diggs Min, WR	6
Jay Ajayi Phi, RB	7
Andrew Luck Ind, QB	9
Cameron Jordan NO, DE	10
Myles Jack Jax, LB	15
Denzel Ward Cle, CB	18
Baker Mayfield Cle, QB	19
	
VonMetternich's Fine Gentlemen	
PLAYER	
Kareem Hunt FA, RB	1+1
Keenan Allen LAC, WR	1
Rob Gronkowski NE, TE	1
Joey Bosa LAC, DE	3
DeAndre Hopkins Hou, WR	5
Drew Brees NO, QB	7
Landon Collins NYG, S	8
Nyheim Hines Ind, RB	18
Spencer Ware KC, RB	19
	
	
Toss My Cobb Salad	
PLAYER	
Todd Gurley II LAR, RB	1+1
Doug Baldwin Sea, WR	1
Davante Adams GB, WR	2
Sammy Watkins KC, WR	4
Trey Burton Chi, TE	7
Alec Ogletree NYG, LB	8
Tarik Cohen Chi, RB	9
Philip Rivers LAC, QB	11
Aaron Jones GB, RB	15
	
Guy’S Follies	
PLAYER	
Ezekiel Elliott Dal, RB	1+1
Christian McCaffrey Car, RB	1
Cam Newton Car, QB	2
Khalil Mack Chi, DE	3
Kyle Rudolph Min, TE	4
Adam Thielen Min, WR	5
Von Miller Den, LB	6
George Kittle SF, TE	10
Alshon Jeffrey	13
Kenny Golladay Det, WR	14
Patrick Mahomes KC, QB	15
Corey Clement Phi, RB	19
	
	
Kerryon My Wayward Sony	
PLAYER	
Julio Jones Atl, WR	1+1
Dalvin Cook	1+1
Tyreek Hill KC, WR	1
Royce Freeman Den, RB	2
Kerryon Johnson Det, RB	4
Sony Michel NE, RB	5
Tremaine Edmunds Buf, LB	10
Jamal Adams NYJ, S	15
Derwin James LAC, S	18
Derrius Guice Wsh, RB	19
	
Bombardment Society	
PLAYER	
Odell Beckham Jr. NYG, WR	1
Melvin Gordon LAC, RB	2
Antonio Brown Pit, WR	2
Rex Burkhead NE, RB	4
Julian Edelman NE, WR	6
Chandler Jones Ari, DE	8
Kirk Cousins Min, QB	10
Demario Davis NO, LB	13
Austin Ekeler LAC, RB	15
Chris Carson Sea, RB	17
Cooper Kupp LAR, WR	18
	
Brownhat's Road To Relegation	
PLAYER	
Saquon Barkley NYG, RB	1+1
LeSean McCoy Buf, RB	1
Larry Fitzgerald Ari, WR	2
Mike Evans TB, WR	4
Russell Wilson Sea, QB	5
Tyler Lockett Sea, WR	9
David Njoku Cle, TE	10
Budda Baker Ari, S	11
Bilal Powell NYJ, RB	15
Wesley Woodyard Ten, LB	16

darkspider42 fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Aug 18, 2019

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.
Everyone please check in ASAP so we can get the supplemental draft going, find replacements for and schedule draft dates.

For Tier A we've used ClickyDraft to handle the keepers Zypher was kind of enough to cover this out of his pocket each year and covered it last year even though he didn't play. Cost is $14.99. Would everyone in A be cool with throwing in a extra buck or two to help cover the cost?

Alfalfa
Apr 24, 2003

Superman Don't Need No Seat Belt
I'm in for sure.

Mikey Purp
Sep 30, 2008

I realized it's gotten out of control. I realize I'm out of control.
I'm in again this year.

And I humbly suggest that Tier B should cover clickydraft as a show of respect to the True Ballers.

dkj
Feb 18, 2009

Yep

Anubis
Oct 9, 2003

It's hard to keep sand out of ears this big.
Fun Shoe
I'm in, will pay soon.

dewey7788
Oct 10, 2004

Don't Toews me bro!
Let's gooooo. Checking in. Also cool with an extra buck or two for clicky draft.

Brownhat
Jan 25, 2012

One cannot be a good person and enforce unjust laws.


Checking in. Ready to implode at the end of the season. I'll throw in for clicky again.

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007
I'm in

SouthShoreSamurai
Apr 28, 2009

It is a tale,
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.


Fun Shoe
I'm back in Tier B :cry:

Boywunda
Jun 25, 2003

Confirming!

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization


hello again

barnold
Dec 16, 2011


what do u do when yuo're born to play fps? guess there's nothing left to do but play fps. boom headshot
Back in the saddle for Tier B

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon


Back in.

Baser Instinct
Oct 18, 2004
No title necessary
I am in and excited for my first trip into tier A

Suave Fedora
Jun 10, 2004
I’m out for this season. The vagaries of the dadlife and new homeownership are upon me. I will keep my options open for subsequent seasons. You’ve all been great and worthy opponents and the toughest lot of fantasy team managers I’ve come up against.

May your LevBells not hold out and may your ODBs find freedom.

:cheers:

SouthShoreSamurai
Apr 28, 2009

It is a tale,
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.


Fun Shoe

Suave Fedora posted:

I’m out for this season. The vagaries of the dadlife and new homeownership are upon me. I will keep my options open for subsequent seasons. You’ve all been great and worthy opponents and the toughest lot of fantasy team managers I’ve come up against.

May your LevBells not hold out and may your ODBs find freedom.

:cheers:

Wuss. Just play from work like the rest of us! :D

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon


When I see posts like that I wonder how many hours people spend on fantasy football.

Lock
Aug 8, 2007

hardcore sound gets you hypah

Didn’t get a message, but found the thread. I have no idea what I’m doing now that I’m in the real division and doing keepers, but I’ll give it a shot.

e: I’m ok with dropping an extra buck or 2 for that clickydraft thing.

Lock fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Aug 2, 2019

Suave Fedora
Jun 10, 2004

jabro posted:

When I see posts like that I wonder how many hours people spend on fantasy football.

Over the years, I’ve discovered that my happy medium is 3 leagues before enjoyment takes a hit. We moved to a new neighborhood and i joined the local dad neighborhood league in an attempt to acquaint with the neighbors/dads of my sons’ schoolmates.

Y’all didn’t make the cut :iceburn: because you are too good and I want a better chance to win the leagues I do join because the winnings go towards my personal vacations

Master Stur
Jun 13, 2008

chasin' tail
I’m in! I’ll send money this weekend

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.
Ok, PMs and ESPN message sent to those that haven't responded yet.

I'll get the 2019 keeper costs up the next few days however we can start the redraft right now with the top 3.

Thoughts on dates for drafting in both A or B?

Also can someone post in the main fantasy thread and/or have someone that would like to join this year? We have 2 slots open in B.

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF
Fantasy football is back baby. It's good again.

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF
I can do pretty much every night but Wednesdays

Chen Kenichi
Jul 20, 2001
Checking in. I am working overnights so I will do what I can concerning the B draft whenever it is, but unless it is a weekend (and even then it is a coinflip if I am working) I might be doing a lot of auto! No concerns about costs for clicky or whatever.

Also no Paypal here any more (screwed both me and my sister so cut them and all subsidiaries off) so is there a secondary way of paying not involving PP?

von Metternich
May 7, 2007
Why the hell not?
I’m in, prefer not Tuesday or Thursday for draft but I can do whenever if necessary

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon


Can we have the draft the day after Zeke reports to camp?

von Metternich
May 7, 2007
Why the hell not?
We can’t draft after the season’s over!

von Metternich
May 7, 2007
Why the hell not?
Sorry to double post, but where do we send the money? Also I’m cool tossing in a couple bucks for clicky

zeroordie
Aug 27, 2004

I am also back in. As reigning champion, I think it’s only fair if everyone pitches in a few dollars extra to cover my entry fee as well.

SouthShoreSamurai
Apr 28, 2009

It is a tale,
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.


Fun Shoe

zeroordie posted:

I am also back in. As reigning champion, I think it’s only fair if everyone pitches in a few dollars extra to cover my entry fee as well.

We did that already last year? :shrug:

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon


After careful thought I am not going to honor my previously arranged draft slot. I will be holding out for what I deserve and am owed. I will accept nothing less than the #1 spot.

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF
Sent in dues and $5 for clickydraft.

Gonna try to figure out my keepers...

For reference, last season's draft: https://clickydraft.com/draftapp/board/117730

Hot Diggity! fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Aug 9, 2019

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

Chen Kenichi posted:

Checking in. I am working overnights so I will do what I can concerning the B draft whenever it is, but unless it is a weekend (and even then it is a coinflip if I am working) I might be doing a lot of auto! No concerns about costs for clicky or whatever.

Also no Paypal here any more (screwed both me and my sister so cut them and all subsidiaries off) so is there a secondary way of paying not involving PP?

I can take google pay as well lanowar@gmail.com

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darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.
So looks like we are all good for tier A and missing Substandard in Tier B and two open slots. Anyone have any people that would like to play or should I open it to the masses?

You can paypal me at orders@randompunks.com. Please include your SA forum name for tracking purposes. Dues need to be in before drafting starts.

Who wants to coordinate Tier B's draft date/time since I have no horse in the race?

NFL week 1 starts on 9/5.

Tier A - would sometime during the week of the 8/26 or Tues the 3 or Wed the 4th work?

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