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I figure we ought to have a thread about discussing movies and tv, even though it's all bourgeois and terrible late-capitalist garbage. but even our conceptions of socialism and communism or whatever are bourgeois (i.e. they arise out of bourgeois society), so why the hell not. I'll start with a couple I saw recently: Once Upon a Time in Pedowood: Overly long, though mostly enjoyable revisionist history about the Sharon Tate murders. The first couple hours drag a bit and are mostly dedicated towards waxing poetically on the limited shelf life of stardom, as well as establishing the working class bona fides of Brad Pitt and Leo Dicap. Finally we get to the latter half of the movie, which in many ways is a wet dream for conservative castle doctrinaire types. As expected, history is corrected yet polanski gets off the hook (this is pedowood after all). There's also not much nuance to the Manson villains: they are portrayed mainly as crazy dirty hippies rife with hypocrisy. Lion King (2019): Same as the first one except uncanny valley. Kimba is saved from a life of volcel and (the animal equiv of) veganism to take back the throne from his regicidal incel uncle. the whole affair could've been avoided if Mufasa, the original king, had hooked his bro up. There's also some incestuous romance, but par for the course for any movie about monarchical rule. A good meditation on the dangers of voluntary and involuntary celibacy.
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The Boys is fuckin' great and extremely C-SPAM. Homelander is just incredible as Psychotic Jingoistic Superman
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Jul 30, 2019 17:25
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhD3I_AZJMY
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Jul 30, 2019 17:29
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su3qmvCkvtE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de1RuEJq_X4
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Jul 30, 2019 18:08
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HOBBS AND MOTHERFUCKIN SHAW COMES OUT THIS WEEK ALL OTHER MEDIA IS IRRELEVANT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ7PAyCDwEg
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Jul 30, 2019 18:24
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lol remember the movie Small Soldiers. Its a childrens movie about a toy company putting military AI hardware into a new line of GI Joe-type dolls and then when they come to life all they want to do is violently and mercilessly destroy the peaceful Other. its so extremely pre-9/11 but im surprised it got made even then.
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Jul 30, 2019 18:33
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It's incredible to me how, just like the news media and the Democrats, entertainment media has absolutely no idea what to do with the Trump era. So they've decided to basically ignore the fact that he's president, and it's starting to feel like an elephant in the room. TV presidents have always been a West Wing caricature, and since that idea of a president is so obviously outdated, movies and TV just kind of leave out "The President" now. Even the lib-level joke in the Zombieland 2 trailer about "dignity to the office" feels like a risk, because the rule until now has been that Trump is simply not acknowledged. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3uiCAqemV4 I'm still waiting for any kind of media that deals with the fear and loathing of this time, the uncanny valley-ness reality itself has had now for several years, and the mask that is slipping off so many of our precious norms. Even metaphorically. I think a lot of the reluctance to go there is reflected in the vast number of superhero, reboot, remake, and sequel movies and shows we have now, because going back to the past is both more comfortable and less controversial. Under the Silver Lake comes close, esp. in regards to so much of the ritualized abuse in the circles of power that is now coming to a head, i.e. Weinstein and Epstein. Hypernormalisation is of course the gold standard for examining the insanity of now, but it was made before Trump was even president.
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Jul 30, 2019 18:35
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Raskolnikov38 posted:HOBBS AND MOTHERFUCKIN SHAW COMES OUT THIS WEEK gently caress that shaw killed han he should not be getting a loving buddy-up movie with the rock, who is terrible and can't carry an action film
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Jul 30, 2019 18:37
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A Big Fuckin Hornet posted:lol remember the movie Small Soldiers. Its a childrens movie about a toy company putting military AI hardware into a new line of GI Joe-type dolls and then when they come to life all they want to do is violently and mercilessly destroy the peaceful Other. That movie was so loving fun as a kid. Also looking back now the voice cast for the toys is loving top notch
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Jul 30, 2019 18:40
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Taintrunner posted:gently caress that shaw killed han he should not be getting a loving buddy-up movie with the rock, who is terrible and can't carry an action film gently caress YOU MOTHERFUCKER
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Jul 30, 2019 18:40
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Raskolnikov38 posted:gently caress YOU MOTHERFUCKER THEY loving SOLD OUT FAST AND THE FURIOUS DIED WITH PAUL WALKER MOTHERFUCKER DEAL WITH IT
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Jul 30, 2019 18:44
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Taintrunner posted:The Boys is fuckin' great and extremely C-SPAM. Homelander is just incredible as Psychotic Jingoistic Superman I keep hearing this show is good but it also sounds like it's trying to be edgelord as gently caress. Is it worth a watch if you loving hate superhero poo poo?
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Jul 30, 2019 20:07
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Liberals understand Trump and Trumpism as an invasive, foreign disease that can be 'cured,' restoring America to normalcy. And thus the reaction to Trump in film is indistinguishable from the general trend of post-9/11 garbage. See all these trash Disney films, where the villain is this senseless, alien totalitarian who simply does evil for evil's sake
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Jul 30, 2019 21:59
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I don't give a gently caress about F&F but I want to see Hobbs & Shaw. Also what happened to the old propaganda thread?
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Jul 30, 2019 22:17
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fast and furious are a better and more authentic superhero franchise than Marvel
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Jul 30, 2019 22:18
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Taintrunner posted:The Boys is fuckin' great and extremely C-SPAM. Homelander is just incredible as Psychotic Jingoistic Superman im really impressed with the show. i've read the comic a BUNCH and i was kinda cautious about the show, because i was expecting a straight adaptation. they've done some really good stuff with updating the show for a different cultural and media landscape, and changing the plot so that existing fans dont know literally anything thats coming, without losing the core themes of the comic
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Jul 30, 2019 22:23
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Calibanibal posted:fast and furious are a better and more authentic superhero franchise than Marvel this but unironically, furious six is when those movies became the avengers but everyone's power is they're a god as long as they're near a car, and with an actually good cast
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Jul 30, 2019 22:25
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Koishi Komeiji posted:I keep hearing this show is good but it also sounds like it's trying to be edgelord as gently caress. Is it worth a watch if you loving hate superhero poo poo? Oh it is absolutely tailor made for people who hate capeshit
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Jul 30, 2019 22:25
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Koishi Komeiji posted:I keep hearing this show is good but it also sounds like it's trying to be edgelord as gently caress. Is it worth a watch if you loving hate superhero poo poo? yes absolutely its a show where the central conflict, the real core of the issue, is that Disney owns all the superheros and wnats to get defense contracts to use them, and the deep state is loving terrified of that also superheros are rear end in a top hat celebrities who do awful poo poo and get away with it because it gets covered up
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Jul 30, 2019 22:26
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next season is probably going to have a fuckin epstein plane subplot
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Jul 30, 2019 22:27
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Taintrunner posted:THEY loving SOLD OUT justin lin is doing 9 though, praise be
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Jul 30, 2019 22:28
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Peanut President posted:I don't give a gently caress about F&F but I want to see Hobbs & Shaw. Also what happened to the old propaganda thread? Nobody posted in it
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Jul 30, 2019 22:30
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Taintrunner posted:THEY loving SOLD OUT  This is correct. I will go on a harsher line and say that after the first three movies the series ceased to exist and you can't convince me otherwise.
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Jul 30, 2019 22:33
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net work error posted:
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Jul 30, 2019 22:33
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Ejecto seato cuz
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Jul 30, 2019 22:35
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2 and 3 are by far the worst out of the 8 released
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Calibanibal posted:2 and 3 are by far the worst out of the 8 released Shut up.
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Jul 30, 2019 22:39
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Calibanibal posted:2 and 3 are by far the worst out of the 8 released 3 is perfect actually
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Jul 30, 2019 22:40
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Who gives a poo poo about that though https://twitter.com/VinegarSyndrome/status/1156248793899315201?s=19 I'm so loving excited, this movie is bonkers and terrible. It's by the director of Mac and Me, and stars young Denise Richards and Paul Walker
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Jul 30, 2019 22:41
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Koishi Komeiji posted:I keep hearing this show is good but it also sounds like it's trying to be edgelord as gently caress. Is it worth a watch if you loving hate superhero poo poo? There's like one or two bits that go too far and the whole thing does kind of feel like Watchmen but dumb; but it generally doesn't do 2edgy4me just for shock value and has some fun critique of the MIC and modern media, plus Karl Urban chewing the scenery and neocon incel Superman. I'd say probably try it out even though I had some problems
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Jul 30, 2019 22:42
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Also I didnt know Hollywood was about Sharon Tate lol
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Jul 30, 2019 22:44
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Calibanibal posted:2 and 3 are by far the worst out of the 8 released 
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Jul 30, 2019 22:47
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3 is definitely funny, and the song rules
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3 is even better when you discover that 4-5-6 are loving prequels
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Jul 30, 2019 22:54
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Salud mi familia
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Jul 30, 2019 23:00
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3 is incredible because Lin took the script for an 80s ski movie and replaced skis with cars It's a movie about the new kid in town learning to beat the rich popular guy while hanging out with the misfits, and it ends with a winner gets the girl loser leaves town race down a mountain Also, Sonny Chiba!
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Jul 30, 2019 23:03
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A big goon thank you to Taintrunner, BENGHAZI 2,and StashAugustine for recommending me The Boys. I don't normally watch tv but I saw the first episode and it was really good. I'm just surprised that such an anti-authoritarian show is being produced by Amazon of all people. 
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Jul 31, 2019 21:14
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Koishi Komeiji posted:A big goon thank you to Taintrunner, BENGHAZI 2,and StashAugustine for recommending me The Boys. I don't normally watch tv but I saw the first episode and it was really good. I'm just surprised that such an anti-authoritarian show is being produced by Amazon of all people. The Expanse is a show about exploited workers in space starting a left nationalist revolution against Earther corporations and it got picked up by Amazon because Jeff Bezos is a personal fan of the series lol
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Jul 31, 2019 21:45
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:It's incredible to me how, just like the news media and the Democrats, entertainment media has absolutely no idea what to do with the Trump era. So they've decided to basically ignore the fact that he's president, and it's starting to feel like an elephant in the room. TV presidents have always been a West Wing caricature, and since that idea of a president is so obviously outdated, movies and TV just kind of leave out "The President" now. Mr. Robot has managed to weave Trump into its plot well, though it does riff on Russiagate a bit in Season 3 with the Chinese Big Bad insisting they back Trump to put him into office. Some more recent Trump era films: BlacKkKlansman, First Reformed, The First Purge And then there's stuff like Spielberg's The Post that's total West Wing core but is very much based on the whole moral panic about Fake News and fellating the media as the way to bring down a corrupt president.
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:It's incredible to me how, just like the news media and the Democrats, entertainment media has absolutely no idea what to do with the Trump era. So they've decided to basically ignore the fact that he's president, and it's starting to feel like an elephant in the room. TV presidents have always been a West Wing caricature, and since that idea of a president is so obviously outdated, movies and TV just kind of leave out "The President" now. Hollywood won’t do Trump era content because they’re afraid of him essentially ordering his personality cult followers from boycotting their films, which is more people than any of us want to admit. I also read a theory how Trump and the republicans could severely gently caress up Hollywood’s access to the Chinese market if he really wanted to. Hypernormalisation is definitely pro-watch, though.
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