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MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

I like that when they brought Brooker back to PC Format for the 100th or 200th issue, they gave him a review of a terrible truck simulator to do and that was it. It wasn't even half a loving page

e: the 37 is a circular bus route starting and terminating in Ryde on the Isle Of Wight serving the southern "suburbs"

Back when I lived on the isle of wight the train was more convenient and more pleasant than the bus service. It probably wasn't much more expensive either, because I used it at least once a month for a fair while.

I wonder if its stupidly expensive now.

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MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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CGI Stardust posted:

oh boy do I know the twitter account for you https://twitter.com/BBCBweaking

you're welcome, no need to thank me

We deserve full english brexit with no breaks or lube. We deserve incoming climate apocalypse.

We deserve far more on a level that I can't loving describe.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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So i'm down to Corbyn led labour or pissing on my ballot now. Bummer.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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thespaceinvader posted:

You don't have to expose yourself in public AND you get to vote for Corbyn government, seems win:win.

If i'm mad enough to go to the polls and Corbyn isn't leading labour I wouldn't have been exposing myself when I pissed on my ballot, trust me.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib
I'll say it again for the D&D crew:

Anyone who thinks Epstein committed suicide, unprompted, is not fit for unsupervised access to sharp objects, voting or unassisted living.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

Guavanaut posted:

He could have been prompted by the fact that he was in prison and about to have his wrongdoings laid bare before the world

The guy who got off scot free last time with 0 consequences checking out before even attempting a new deal, no cameras, guards getting sent away due to maintenance? Claiming his last attempt was an attack?

I'd believe it was aliens before that.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

Guavanaut posted:

So if he was expected to get off without any consequences or naming any names why bother?

Oh, i'm sorry. I didn't realise you were special. My bad. Carry on.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

Failed Imagineer posted:

I 100% think he was killed but lol what the gently caress is this post

Yeah i'm back on my agressive bullshit but the unquestioning acceptance of so many 'coincidences' is a loving wonder to my brain. Like, if you want to argue that he killed himself, why not at least attempt some creative thinking and say he did it to gently caress with everyones mind?

We live in the UK, we've seen nonce cabals before.

Guavanaut posted:

All the conspiracies seem to revolve around him being about to name the Clintons/Trump/Netanyahu or something, which seems at odds with the idea that he could just walk out of there without any consequences like last time.

He knew a lot of horrendous poo poo and would have exchanged this knowledge for a sweetheart deal. Someone bumped him for even being open to the temptation of such a deal.

MrFlibble fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Aug 12, 2019

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib
Its possible to acknowledge that prisons are run in ways tantamount to crimes against humanity and to simultaneously recognise that claiming Epsteins death was due to this when he had knowledge of presidents and royalty's noncery is a stretch beyond loving armstrong.

If you buy the official story then yes I am calling you an idiot, because anything stronger I could use would get me banned quicker than Epstein got got.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib
The closest i'll allow to the official story is that conditions were made such that he had the opportunity to kill himself and that he was encouraged to do so via some sort of threat to something/one he cared about - that is not what I believe myself, but I can respect someone who came to this conclusion.

Without the threat? No, sorry, tell me in advance that this is what you believe because my time isn't quite worthless enough for you.

Guavanaut posted:

The theories about JFK are fun because the official story is dodgy as hell and seems full of holes, but then all the fan theories involving second gunmans, Vice President Johnson, the Trilateral Commission, Soviet mind control, etc. are even moreso.

Everyone knows JFK travelled back in time to kill himself via the grassy knoll to preserve his legacy and stop the world from collapse.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

CoolCab posted:

cranks and other extreme and often evidently untrue narratives are useful to the ruling classes for this reason exactly. it makes it very - deliberately - difficult to talk about any of this stuff.

toxifying discourse this way has harm - for example when we should be talking about the colossal and embarrassing failures of the intelligence services and the state generally that allowed 9/11 to happen, instead our conversation is about the melting point of steel. by design, no one is given the opportunity to ask the meaningful question, specifically: "if you're adequately incompetent to allow this to happen maybe you shouldn't be in authority?"

gh0stpinballa posted:

effort posting cos my gf is sick of hearing me now lol. anyway I've been reading the news coverage and the way the libs have latched onto trump going after the clinton connection, and held it up as some kind of example of why questioning the official narrative is Very Bad, is, i feel, very instructive.

at the heart of this is a fundamental conflict in peoples views of power. there is one view that is off the deep end, saying they're all reptoid aliens from nibaru, and there is the simpering lib view that the powerful are fundamentally decent people with a few bad apples. it should be obvious which one has hosed the planet and condemned us all to death, and it isn't the reptoid gang.

the correct view is that the global ruling class is a parasite entity that requires its members to engage in mutually reinforcing acts of exploitation of the lower classes, particularly the most poor and vulnerable, in order to consolidate their power and create bonds of loyalty and profitable relationships. this can be anything from destroying entire nation states for fun and profit to trafficking children across continents to be raped and tortured at dinner parties everywhere from manhattan to riyadh.

all of this is enabled and protected by a diffuse network of intelligence agencies, news outlets, journalists, academics, militaries, organised crime, law enforcement, judicial bodies, and politicians. most don't need to coordinate with each other, and some people aren't even aware they're playing this role, or pretend they aren't (they're the insufferable cunts like the jacobin guy, gaslighting his followers by waffling about epstein death being caused by neglect, or people like james ball, who pride themselves on being Sensible and Rational and Not a Buyer of Conspiracy Theories). so if the truth accidentally gets out, say the WMDs aren't real, the moderate rebels are all al qaeda, or the little kids grow up and start talking to the wrong papers, these people all have the same reflexive response, which is doing their bit to suffocate the embers before they spark an inferno. they aren't stupid, they know their history, and how and why things like the french and russian revolutions happened.

so this response runs the gauntlet from performatively rending garments and calling for inquiries and new laws, to putting 3 in a troublesome witness's head and saying they had a heart attack, to writing 1000 words of obfuscation for the new york times, to actively amplifying the most batshit theories to smear every skeptic or would be revolutionary as a crank. if a few out of favour people have to fall then it's an acceptable price to pay: the objective is to ensure this system of exploitation remains in place so everyone gets paid and everything stays the same.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib
The idea that Epstein killed himself on his own is more insane than the first one.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

Julio Cruz posted:

you're aware that prisoners generally don't tend to like nonces very much, right

You are aware of exactly how high interest Epstein is right?

Do mob narks kill themselves in prison mate?

What the gently caress is wrong with the UKMT?

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib
Number of prisoners who killed themselves at this particular prison, before Epstein? Lets call Count von Count -

Wait lets not because he wouldn't even get to his loving laugh, a big fat loving 0.

Taken off suicide watch, guards leave for maintenance for three loving hours, no video footage...

gently caress all y'all trying to make me the Alex Jones of this situation

Julio Cruz posted:

what on earth are you even arguing here? he didn't kill himself because other people wanted to seriously harm him? the actual gently caress?

He didn't kill himself. Period. Everything else there is you selectively reading loving tea leaves for all I know.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

Julio Cruz posted:

ah yes, no-one ever killed themselves in that particular prison therefore no-one ever will, that's some good logic right there

If no name loving johnson killed himself we wouldn't even be loving talking about this other than the context of "first suicide at this prison"

That "first suicide" lines up with "King Nonce who has dirt on presidential and royal nonces" is...

I know what my problem is. I don't type sheep.

Julio Cruz posted:

ah yes, no-one ever killed themselves in that particular prison therefore no-one ever will, that's some good logic right there

and all your other arguments apply just as well to "someone slipped him a way to off himself" than "a super-assassin infiltrated the prison and put an undetectable poison into his bedtime hot cocoa before magically disappearing into the night"

At the behest of a very wealthy and powerful person or persons, yes.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

Julio Cruz posted:

OK I'll put it into shorter words for you

magic super killer man invade prison secretly kill Epstein leave prison vanish - not likely

prison guard give Epstein razor turn camera off let him kill self - more likely

is that a bit loving clearer?

If you think Epsteins death is completely unconnected to his pedophile circle of friends and he committed suicide 100% because of fear about his future/moral panic at what he did then I think you are a moron of a caliber higher than I have words to describe.

Is that a clear enough summation of my loving point?

I don't believe in ninja assassins or whatever you braindead loving loaf, I believe the nonce ringleaders death is related to the loving nonce ring.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

Gonzo McFee posted:

Lmao at the idiots who think Epstien killed himself. Just credulous rubes.

Careful of the tap water now Alex Jones

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

Julio Cruz posted:

apart from Mr Flibble who believes that option A is more likely than option B

I believe alien time travelling ninja assassins are more likely than epstein up and killed himself and all the poo poo that allowed him to so was merely coincidence, yes

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

Ms Adequate posted:

That's literally not what Option B is though,

My statement here

quote:

If you think Epsteins death is completely unconnected to his pedophile circle of friends and he committed suicide 100% because of fear about his future/moral panic at what he did then I think you are a moron of a caliber higher than I have words to describe.

Is that a clear enough summation of my loving point?

Is the point I have stuck to. If I am mischaracterising option b in your mind, its because of the guy/gal I was responding to, not me.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib
You dismissed what I was talking about as assassins first dickloaf.

And he didn't kill himself.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

Julio Cruz posted:

you realise that just repeating “Epstein didn’t kill himself” without any reason or logic doesn’t make it any more true, right

you realise parroting the wealthy nonce rings version of events makes you a simpering credulous bootlicker, right?

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

Julio Cruz posted:

for someone who’s keen to bring up the precedent of the number of previous suicides in a certain prison as justification for your opinion you’re surprisingly eager to ignore the literally hundreds of paedophiles who’ve killed themselves rather than end up in jail

hmm maybe they were all killed by their wealthy client list too, makes u think

The fact that you think this is a burn has made things clearer to me now.

I am also done.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

OwlFancier posted:

Thinking technology has the potential to be useful to humans is not remotely the same thing as "we must always be 'progressing'" because that is the mindset of capitalism. No we mustn't always progress, technological and productive progress without a social foundation is exactly what got us where we are today. A perfectly static world is infinitely preferable to one where everyone gets killed by dickheads shouting PROGRESS as they wipe out most of the earth's biosphere and population.

On the one hand you're completely and totally right.

On the other hand, jet packs.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

thespaceinvader posted:

Life is boring at the moment. That's part of the point of the loving system. So I'll take boredom where the planet isn't rapidly dying and there aren't hundred-billionaires, over boredom where it is and there are.

The planets dying a bit more rapidly than you currently imagine.

Life won't be boring soon!

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib
Make another example and see if you can get to three things I don't have!

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

thespaceinvader posted:

I'm pretty sure the planet's dying about as quickly as I think it is. And I'm pretty sure it will still be boring and tedious and grindingly awful until the point where it very rapidly and painfully and permanently isn't.

:(

I was trying to be fun.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

thespaceinvader posted:

OK. Do have fun laughing about how millions of people are going to die within our lifetimes of entirely preventable causes, for the enrichment of people who already can't possibly spend all their money.

It's a LAUGH a MINUTE.

And by LAUGH I mean JEFF BEZOS JUST EARNED 100 GRAND.

Yeah, now you got it.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

A history of making worthwhile posts!

Well, I suppose I asked for that.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

The Deleter posted:

Also I really have to question why they think the only two options with regards to technology and advancement are a) current state where inhuman tech billionaires pick and choose where the resources go or b) the first ten turns of Civ 6.

Capitalism friend. Raised by Capitalism, brain by Capitalism.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

OwlFancier posted:

Have you considered that what people might want you to be interested in is them? Who they are, what they think, how their day was? People are not simply tools for you to use, they're the same as you, all the complicated things in your head are also in theirs, and if you aren't interested in them as people, they will not be very interested in you.

Socializing is about giving up bits of yourself, your time, your wants, your preferences, in order that other people can share parts of themselves, that's how connections form.

Pretty cruel of you to try and encourage Flames to socialise.

Have some empathy for the people he might try to socialise with.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib
Love our normal country right about now.

Also having a normal one myself :)

It's alllllll fine.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYOtKdtmRaA&t=2816s

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MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Pistol_Pete posted:

Yeah, I'm stocking up on rice, pasta, lentils, dried beans, tinned tomatoes etc. Won't be an interesting diet but it'll keep me alive if Brexit apocalypse happens.

I've put my chips on nothing matters and am letting it ride.

Whatever happens happens.

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